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Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 19 Oct 2019, 15:06
by lookingaround87
Did anyone else think how slow both of them looked last night? I thought their punches were like they had weights on their wrists.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 19 Oct 2019, 15:27
by Ruthless-RKO
lookingaround87 wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 15:06 Did anyone else think how slow both of them looked last night? I thought their punches were like they had weights on their wrists.
Power punches.

Personally I didn’t see much wrong with how fast or slow they were. We got a good fight.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 19 Oct 2019, 16:11
by ValMar
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 15:27
lookingaround87 wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 15:06 Did anyone else think how slow both of them looked last night? I thought their punches were like they had weights on their wrists.
Power punches.

Personally I didn’t see much wrong with how fast or slow they were. We got a good fight.
Yes !

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 19 Oct 2019, 19:22
by margaret thatcher
Call me crazy, but on some other ESPN cards I thought guys looked noticeably slower than usual. That Mexican kid who stopped Dogboe had a fight where he looked glacial but I've seen him other times and he looked fine. Could possibly something with how they film?

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 19 Oct 2019, 20:14
by Impractical Poster
margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 00:26
Impractical Poster wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 00:25 I haven't been keeping up too much with the current section lately. Just saw before this fight started tonight the overwhelming favorite this board had Gvozdvk. I was quite surprised.
You should've come ahead of time and sprinkled your wisdom :OhYes:
Few listen to logic round these parts.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 19 Oct 2019, 20:19
by Impractical Poster
lazboy wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 00:35
Impractical Poster wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 00:25 I haven't been keeping up too much with the current section lately. Just saw before this fight started tonight the overwhelming favorite this board had Gvozdvk. I was quite surprised.
You’re wasting away your life not keeping up with the current scene. Let me guess you’re watching that ufc game. Smh 🤦‍♂️ come back to boxing. We are in the post Mayweather era.
I still keep up with the big names. I was saying I haven't been keeping up with the current section of this boxing forum.

UFC is on point. So much talent fighting each other on a consistent basis. It would be silly to drop it. They have Beterbiev/Gvozbyk level fights all the time.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 20 Oct 2019, 10:27
by Grand_Cru54
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 00:49
margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 00:48

Calls a KD when there wasn't any, then doesn't call a legit KD when Bert actually got it lol.
Probably felt pressured haha
Not only that. He did not have enough jugement to stop the fight when we all saw Gvozdiy was exhausted and could not defend himself.... as a result, Gvozdyk had to spend two days at the hospital.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 20 Oct 2019, 13:44
by Blodhemn
Yeah, that 10th was ugly - accumulation from power, plus some of Artur's looping shots stray to the back of the head. Very fine line there, mix in a daft ref and Gvozdyk is lucky to escape with just a loss.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 20 Oct 2019, 15:11
by Ruthless-RKO
Gvozdyk was released from hospital today..

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 20 Oct 2019, 15:16
by ValMar
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Oct 2019, 15:11 Gvozdyk was released from hospital today..
:TU:

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 20 Oct 2019, 15:26
by ValMar
I suppose you have seen (after the fight) "Big Mac" - Arslanbek Makhmudov. As I know his next opponent will be Samuel Peter.
I like "Big Mac" a lot, but I don't like his (or his team's) choice of opponent.
I know this is off topic, but I had to write.........

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 20 Oct 2019, 18:49
by boxing_rocks
ValMar wrote: 20 Oct 2019, 15:26 I suppose you have seen (after the fight) "Big Mac" - Arslanbek Makhmudov. As I know his next opponent will be Samuel Peter.
I like "Big Mac" a lot, but I don't like his (or his team's) choice of opponent.
I know this is off topic, but I had to write.........
What exactly don't you like?

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 20 Oct 2019, 20:12
by Evander
That was an amazing fight the other night, one of the best I have seen this year.
I thought Gvozdyk was the more accomplished all around boxer of the two, But Beterbiev's relentlessness, will to win and power took him over the top.
It was quite a brutal fight and I found myself thinking it should have been halted a round or two before the stoppage.
Good performances by both of them and obviously Beterbiev comes out of it looking better, but Gvozdyk has nothing to be ashamed of whatsoever,he gave it everything.
Fantastic fight.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 21 Oct 2019, 00:01
by boxing_rocks
Just rewatched the fight. I would definitely blame Atlas for picking a wrong game plan. Gvozdyk was putting too much power into his punches in the first half of the fight which tired him and made him an easy target after round 8. I think his only chance was to run and touch keeping enough gas for 12 rounds. Of course Beterbiev's body work was a factor, but even that work wouldn't be as successful if Gvozdyk was concentrating on defense.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 21 Oct 2019, 00:03
by margaret thatcher
boxing_rocks wrote: 20 Oct 2019, 18:49
ValMar wrote: 20 Oct 2019, 15:26 I suppose you have seen (after the fight) "Big Mac" - Arslanbek Makhmudov. As I know his next opponent will be Samuel Peter.
I like "Big Mac" a lot, but I don't like his (or his team's) choice of opponent.
I know this is off topic, but I had to write.........
What exactly don't you like?
Maybe that Sam Peter is a shot slob and not a good opponent?

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 21 Oct 2019, 00:22
by Evander
boxing_rocks wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 00:01 Just rewatched the fight. I would definitely blame Atlas for picking a wrong game plan. Gvozdyk was putting too much power into his punches in the first half of the fight which tired him and made him an easy target after round 8. I think his only chance was to run and touch keeping enough gas for 12 rounds. Of course Beterbiev's body work was a factor, but even that work wouldn't be as successful if Gvozdyk was concentrating on defense.
Maybe
Gvozdyk was well prepared in terms of his skills, he wasn't a one trick pony.
He landed flush shots, had a chin and was athletic enough to hold his own from the outside when he needed to, he was a live opponent.
Game plan for Gvozdyk wasn't out of the ordinary so it's a stretch to put it on Atlas, just got beat by the better guy :maybe:

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 21 Oct 2019, 11:44
by ValMar
margaret thatcher wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 00:03
boxing_rocks wrote: 20 Oct 2019, 18:49
What exactly don't you like?
Maybe that Sam Peter is a shot slob and not a good opponent?
Peter had been a very decent HW (long time ago). He should have been retired five years (at least) ago.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 21 Oct 2019, 11:49
by Ricky
Evander wrote: 20 Oct 2019, 20:12 That was an amazing fight the other night, one of the best I have seen this year.
I thought Gvozdyk was the more accomplished all around boxer of the two, But Beterbiev's relentlessness, will to win and power took him over the top.
It was quite a brutal fight and I found myself thinking it should have been halted a round or two before the stoppage.
Good performances by both of them and obviously Beterbiev comes out of it looking better, but Gvozdyk has nothing to be ashamed of whatsoever,he gave it everything.
Fantastic fight.
I disagree that Gvo looked the slicker boxer, Beterbiev floated around the ring like Federer on a tennis court. It's rare to see someone look so light on their fight but so heavy in the hands. Brilliant fighter.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 21 Oct 2019, 19:07
by boxing_rocks

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 09:51
by Jaywheel
Evander wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 00:22
boxing_rocks wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 00:01 Just rewatched the fight. I would definitely blame Atlas for picking a wrong game plan. Gvozdyk was putting too much power into his punches in the first half of the fight which tired him and made him an easy target after round 8. I think his only chance was to run and touch keeping enough gas for 12 rounds. Of course Beterbiev's body work was a factor, but even that work wouldn't be as successful if Gvozdyk was concentrating on defense.
Maybe
Gvozdyk was well prepared in terms of his skills, he wasn't a one trick pony.
He landed flush shots, had a chin and was athletic enough to hold his own from the outside when he needed to, he was a live opponent.
Game plan for Gvozdyk wasn't out of the ordinary so it's a stretch to put it on Atlas, just got beat by the better guy :maybe:
Beterbiev didn't respect Gvozdyk power even early on. He would have walked over him even faster if Gvozdyk would have tried to jab and dance.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 22 Oct 2019, 11:22
by boxing_rocks
Jaywheel wrote: 22 Oct 2019, 09:51
Evander wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 00:22

Maybe
Gvozdyk was well prepared in terms of his skills, he wasn't a one trick pony.
He landed flush shots, had a chin and was athletic enough to hold his own from the outside when he needed to, he was a live opponent.
Game plan for Gvozdyk wasn't out of the ordinary so it's a stretch to put it on Atlas, just got beat by the better guy :maybe:
Beterbiev didn't respect Gvozdyk power even early on. He would have walked over him even faster if Gvozdyk would have tried to jab and dance.
Beterbiev was finding Gvozdyk in front of him when Gvozdyk was engaging. Less engaging and more moving would make it much harder to find him. Atlas should have told him to fight like Lara against Canelo.

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 23 Oct 2019, 02:26
by Evander
Ricky wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 11:49
Evander wrote: 20 Oct 2019, 20:12 That was an amazing fight the other night, one of the best I have seen this year.
I thought Gvozdyk was the more accomplished all around boxer of the two, But Beterbiev's relentlessness, will to win and power took him over the top.
It was quite a brutal fight and I found myself thinking it should have been halted a round or two before the stoppage.
Good performances by both of them and obviously Beterbiev comes out of it looking better, but Gvozdyk has nothing to be ashamed of whatsoever,he gave it everything.
Fantastic fight.
I disagree that Gvo looked the slicker boxer, Beterbiev floated around the ring like Federer on a tennis court. It's rare to see someone look so light on their fight but so heavy in the hands. Brilliant fighter.
You're having a laugh right ?
Like Federer on a tennis court :D

Re: Artur Beterbiev vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk - October 18, 2019

Posted: 23 Oct 2019, 02:29
by Evander
Jaywheel wrote: 22 Oct 2019, 09:51
Evander wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 00:22

Maybe
Gvozdyk was well prepared in terms of his skills, he wasn't a one trick pony.
He landed flush shots, had a chin and was athletic enough to hold his own from the outside when he needed to, he was a live opponent.
Game plan for Gvozdyk wasn't out of the ordinary so it's a stretch to put it on Atlas, just got beat by the better guy :maybe:
Beterbiev didn't respect Gvozdyk power even early on. He would have walked over him even faster if Gvozdyk would have tried to jab and dance.
He respected Gvozdyk's power and skills but up to a certain point, Gvozdyk was in the fight and might have been winning it at one point.
It wasn't a walkover.