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Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:22
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 03:53
TBA wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 03:50 Yes, I am looking forward to my fight versus Dillon White on 30th October.
Hope you win.
Same here, I know your not much of a puncher, Whytes still prime for the picking, his punch resistance is shot to sh*t and we know you can pull off the upset. :bag:

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:22
by Ruthless-RKO
tony1234 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:12 I wonder if Hearn was still on SKY he would have made this a PPV ?
No doubt. Ever since Browne, he’s been a PPV monster.

It’s al Sky and Hearn’s fault. All got to Whyte’s head.

To he fair, he’s fought decent opp.

Parker, Chisora 2, Rivas, Povetkin twice.

He’s only PPV fighter because of his purse demands. That is literally it.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:29
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:22
tony1234 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:12 I wonder if Hearn was still on SKY he would have made this a PPV ?
No doubt. Ever since Browne, he’s been a PPV monster.

It’s al Sky and Hearn’s fault. All got to Whyte’s head.

To he fair, he’s fought decent opp.

Parker, Chisora 2, Rivas, Povetkin twice.

He’s only PPV fighter because of his purse demands. That is literally it.
The first Chisora fight I didn't mind paying for, the card was alright, and at the time, beating Del Boy ment something. Plus it was a good fairly even and entertaining fight.
Anything after that, including the rematch and fighting Parker who was coming off a loss was just bollocks as a PPV.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:31
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:22
tony1234 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:12 I wonder if Hearn was still on SKY he would have made this a PPV ?
No doubt. Ever since Browne, he’s been a PPV monster.

It’s al Sky and Hearn’s fault. All got to Whyte’s head.

To he fair, he’s fought decent opp.

Parker, Chisora 2, Rivas, Povetkin twice.

He’s only PPV fighter because of his purse demands. That is literally it.
He also does c.300,000 buys per ppv. That’s why he stayed on as a PPV fighter. He sold tickets too so got what he deserved.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:33
by Ruthless-RKO
KiwiRider wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:29
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:22
tony1234 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:12 I wonder if Hearn was still on SKY he would have made this a PPV ?
No doubt. Ever since Browne, he’s been a PPV monster.

It’s al Sky and Hearn’s fault. All got to Whyte’s head.

To he fair, he’s fought decent opp.

Parker, Chisora 2, Rivas, Povetkin twice.

He’s only PPV fighter because of his purse demands. That is literally it.
The first Chisora fight I didn't mind paying for, the card was alright, and at the time, beating Del Boy ment something. Plus it was a good fairly even and entertaining fight.
Anything after that, including the rematch and fighting Parker who was coming off a loss was just bollocks as a PPV.
The first Delboy fight was on the AJ card. But was the best fight on the card. The rest of the card was decent too.

But the rematch was just bickering over money and Del being desperate.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:33
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:31
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:22
tony1234 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:12 I wonder if Hearn was still on SKY he would have made this a PPV ?
No doubt. Ever since Browne, he’s been a PPV monster.

It’s al Sky and Hearn’s fault. All got to Whyte’s head.

To he fair, he’s fought decent opp.

Parker, Chisora 2, Rivas, Povetkin twice.

He’s only PPV fighter because of his purse demands. That is literally it.
He also does c.300,000 buys per ppv. That’s why he stayed on as a PPV fighter. He sold tickets too so got what he deserved.
Yeh for sure. The better boxers he fights the better the buys, but yeh, people buy his fights. He is big with the casual fans.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:42
by JamesPhilips
Isn’t he fighting Arreola?

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 15:44
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:33
KiwiRider wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:29
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:22

No doubt. Ever since Browne, he’s been a PPV monster.

It’s al Sky and Hearn’s fault. All got to Whyte’s head.

To he fair, he’s fought decent opp.

Parker, Chisora 2, Rivas, Povetkin twice.

He’s only PPV fighter because of his purse demands. That is literally it.
The first Chisora fight I didn't mind paying for, the card was alright, and at the time, beating Del Boy ment something. Plus it was a good fairly even and entertaining fight.
Anything after that, including the rematch and fighting Parker who was coming off a loss was just bollocks as a PPV.
The first Delboy fight was on the AJ card. But was the best fight on the card. The rest of the card was decent too.

But the rematch was just bickering over money and Del being desperate.
Yes, I bought the first Whyte Chisora fight because of them, and not AJ Vs Molina :roll:
I (and most of us) saw that as the main event anyway.
And yeah, didn't we bicker on here for days afterwards about the result :lol:

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 16:01
by Ruthless-RKO
KiwiRider wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:44
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:33
KiwiRider wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:29

The first Chisora fight I didn't mind paying for, the card was alright, and at the time, beating Del Boy ment something. Plus it was a good fairly even and entertaining fight.
Anything after that, including the rematch and fighting Parker who was coming off a loss was just bollocks as a PPV.
The first Delboy fight was on the AJ card. But was the best fight on the card. The rest of the card was decent too.

But the rematch was just bickering over money and Del being desperate.
Yes, I bought the first Whyte Chisora fight because of them, and not AJ Vs Molina :roll:
I (and most of us) saw that as the main event anyway.
And yeah, didn't we bicker on here for days afterwards about the result :lol:
Was a close fight, but majority had Chisora win that. He wasn’t even winning the rematch, before the ref started docking points. Seems like he couldn’t be bothered after that and got KO’d

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 03:39
by Ruthless-RKO
Apparently Franklin already signed the contract.

“Why drag this out for so long to not make it happen,” Franklin stated to BS.com. “I’m undefeated and ready for the step-up fight and I promise I will knock Betty Whyte out.”

“I want the fight. I signed the bout agreement on my end,” Franklin insists. “They (Whyte people and reps) brought my name up first. I knew about it like most people on social media. I was like, ‘Yes let’s do this.’

“I want to show the world I’m the best.”

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 03:44
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 03:39 Apparently Franklin already signed the contract.

“Why drag this out for so long to not make it happen,” Franklin stated to BS.com. “I’m undefeated and ready for the step-up fight and I promise I will knock Betty Whyte out.”

“I want the fight. I signed the bout agreement on my end,” Franklin insists. “They (Whyte people and reps) brought my name up first. I knew about it like most people on social media. I was like, ‘Yes let’s do this.’

“I want to show the world I’m the best.”
I think they know Arreola is a better opponent so will give it a few days to that made before pulling the trigger on Franklin.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 04:20
by joshj909
Franklin is a better opponent than Arreola.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 04:30
by gregregegg
maverick23 wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 03:44
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 03:39 Apparently Franklin already signed the contract.

“Why drag this out for so long to not make it happen,” Franklin stated to BS.com. “I’m undefeated and ready for the step-up fight and I promise I will knock Betty Whyte out.”

“I want the fight. I signed the bout agreement on my end,” Franklin insists. “They (Whyte people and reps) brought my name up first. I knew about it like most people on social media. I was like, ‘Yes let’s do this.’

“I want to show the world I’m the best.”
I think they know Arreola is a better opponent so will give it a few days to that made before pulling the trigger on Franklin.
Franklin is a more sell-able opponent now i think. prime age, 20-0, recently beat jerry forrest (in a robbery but they dont have to mention that).

Arreola is 40, coming of back to back losses, and hasnt got a decent win on his record for 7 or 8 years...

likely Simular levle, and sure they can sell the Kownaki war and hurting ruiz i guess, but whyte has had to many 40 year olds lately, would get crucified for another.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 06:12
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:33
maverick23 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:31
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:22

No doubt. Ever since Browne, he’s been a PPV monster.

It’s al Sky and Hearn’s fault. All got to Whyte’s head.

To he fair, he’s fought decent opp.

Parker, Chisora 2, Rivas, Povetkin twice.

He’s only PPV fighter because of his purse demands. That is literally it.
He also does c.300,000 buys per ppv. That’s why he stayed on as a PPV fighter. He sold tickets too so got what he deserved.
Yeh for sure. The better boxers he fights the better the buys, but yeh, people buy his fights. He is big with the casual fans.
Yep.

To put it into context more people buy Whyte’s fights in the U.K. than bought the latest Pacquaio PPV in the US (a reported 230k buys).

I know the price points are different but their population is also 6 times bigger and Manny’s a global star.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 06:14
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 06:12
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:33
maverick23 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:31

He also does c.300,000 buys per ppv. That’s why he stayed on as a PPV fighter. He sold tickets too so got what he deserved.
Yeh for sure. The better boxers he fights the better the buys, but yeh, people buy his fights. He is big with the casual fans.
Yep.

To put it into context more people buy Whyte’s fights in the U.K. than bought the latest Pacquaio PPV in the US (a reported 230k buys).

I know the price points are different but their population is also 6 times bigger and Manny’s a global star.
people care more about boxing over here as well..

Casuals love a bit of ppv

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 08:28
by Scoops
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 06:14
maverick23 wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 06:12
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:33 Yeh for sure. The better boxers he fights the better the buys, but yeh, people buy his fights. He is big with the casual fans.
Yep.

To put it into context more people buy Whyte’s fights in the U.K. than bought the latest Pacquaio PPV in the US (a reported 230k buys).

I know the price points are different but their population is also 6 times bigger and Manny’s a global star.
people care more about boxing over here as well..

Casuals love a bit of ppv
He's a big heavyweight who has fought a lot of names - ie, fighters people have heard of before it was announced.

If Joshua and Fury weren't around at the same time he'd be an even bigger star.

Plenty of my makes know Whyte but wouldn't have a clue who Josh Taylor is. Always the way with heavyweights and good luck to him.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 08:37
by peter barlow
Josh Taylor will be known now Sky have him. Not many knew Carl Froch until Sky had him.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 09:00
by Ruthless-RKO
peter barlow wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 08:37 Josh Taylor will be known now Sky have him. Not many knew Carl Froch until Sky had him.
Froch was on CH5 before that, he was being seen but like you said not as known.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 09:01
by Ruthless-RKO
Scoops wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 08:28
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 06:14
maverick23 wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 06:12

Yep.

To put it into context more people buy Whyte’s fights in the U.K. than bought the latest Pacquaio PPV in the US (a reported 230k buys).

I know the price points are different but their population is also 6 times bigger and Manny’s a global star.
people care more about boxing over here as well..

Casuals love a bit of ppv
He's a big heavyweight who has fought a lot of names - ie, fighters people have heard of before it was announced.

If Joshua and Fury weren't around at the same time he'd be an even bigger star.

Plenty of my makes know Whyte but wouldn't have a clue who Josh Taylor is. Always the way with heavyweights and good luck to him.
Yeh, he fought Parker on PPV, literally a few months after AJ-Parker.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 09:04
by maverick23
gregregegg wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 04:30
maverick23 wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 03:44
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 03:39 Apparently Franklin already signed the contract.

“Why drag this out for so long to not make it happen,” Franklin stated to BS.com. “I’m undefeated and ready for the step-up fight and I promise I will knock Betty Whyte out.”

“I want the fight. I signed the bout agreement on my end,” Franklin insists. “They (Whyte people and reps) brought my name up first. I knew about it like most people on social media. I was like, ‘Yes let’s do this.’

“I want to show the world I’m the best.”
I think they know Arreola is a better opponent so will give it a few days to that made before pulling the trigger on Franklin.
Franklin is a more sell-able opponent now i think. prime age, 20-0, recently beat jerry forrest (in a robbery but they dont have to mention that).

Arreola is 40, coming of back to back losses, and hasnt got a decent win on his record for 7 or 8 years...

likely Simular levle, and sure they can sell the Kownaki war and hurting ruiz i guess, but whyte has had to many 40 year olds lately, would get crucified for another.
I don’t really criticise Whyte for his opponents. I know Povetkin was shot in his last fight but he was badly Ko’d by him and wanted the rematch.

As to whether Franklin’s a more sellable fight, he’s got a nice record but the Arreola fight will generate more noise in the US than Franklin and it’ll probably be a better fight too.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 09:46
by jameswilson
I think Arreola and Martin will do better at the box office than Arreola.

I’ve been getting sick of Arreola getting big fights for I don’t know how long now. I was pissed when Wilder defended against him and how many years ago was that?

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 09:49
by Ruthless-RKO
jameswilson wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 09:46 I think Arreola and Martin will do better at the box office than Arreola.

I’ve been getting sick of Arreola getting big fights for I don’t know how long now. I was pissed when Wilder defended against him and how many years ago was that?
You messed the names up mate. martin and who will do better than who?

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 09:51
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 09:00
peter barlow wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 08:37 Josh Taylor will be known now Sky have him. Not many knew Carl Froch until Sky had him.
Froch was on CH5 before that, he was being seen but like you said not as known.
He’d fought on BBC and ITV primetime winning his world title. I went to the Dirrell fight and wasn’t close to being a sell out.

Both Eddie and Sky did amazingly well for him and vice versa. You need more than just a channel showing your fights to be promoted well and well tickets.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 09:55
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 09:51
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 09:00
peter barlow wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 08:37 Josh Taylor will be known now Sky have him. Not many knew Carl Froch until Sky had him.
Froch was on CH5 before that, he was being seen but like you said not as known.
He’d fought on BBC and ITV primetime winning his world title. I went to the Dirrell fight and wasn’t close to being a sell out.

Both Eddie and Sky did amazingly well for him and vice versa. You need more than just a channel showing your fights to be promoted well and well tickets.
yeh, certainly.. He joined Matchroom after the super 6, and he made more of a name for himself, before he joining Hearn.

Re: Dillian Whyte vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 October 2021

Posted: 03 Sep 2021, 10:08
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 09:55
maverick23 wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 09:51
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 09:00

Froch was on CH5 before that, he was being seen but like you said not as known.
He’d fought on BBC and ITV primetime winning his world title. I went to the Dirrell fight and wasn’t close to being a sell out.

Both Eddie and Sky did amazingly well for him and vice versa. You need more than just a channel showing your fights to be promoted well and well tickets.
yeh, certainly.. He joined Matchroom after the super 6, and he made more of a name for himself, before he joining Hearn.
I think he joined Matchroom during the Super 6 - perhaps for the final or the semi. The shit show of a U.K. Dirrell fight starting at 2am followed by the Kessler fight being an online PpV did Big Mick no favours.