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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 13:41
by KiwiRider
Dioufy wrote: 10 Dec 2021, 13:08 If this goes to purse bids you think Hearn will go big on it? Beating Top Rank and Frank shouldn’t be too hard considering Hearn keeps bragging about how much money there is.
DAZN’s first PPV starting at 40 quid a pop I’d say with Hearn telling us we are lucky as the Yanks pay double that.
End is nigh.
I would have said Eddie going big on a purse bid is a given. A proper HW belt is money in the bank.
But how much money does DAZN have now? And can they risk it on a slim chance of Whyte becoming a champ when he is sort of a free agent?
It's been a bad year for Matchroom. They have lost a few champions and some of the others they still have are not that much of a draw.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 14:34
by maverick23
Dioufy wrote: 10 Dec 2021, 13:08 If this goes to purse bids you think Hearn will go big on it? Beating Top Rank and Frank shouldn’t be too hard considering Hearn keeps bragging about how much money there is.
DAZN’s first PPV starting at 40 quid a pop I’d say with Hearn telling us we are lucky as the Yanks pay double that.
End is nigh.
I’m sure he’ll bid big on it but Top Rank have deep pockets too. A combination of ESPN, BT PPV and plenty of tickets sold means they’ll have at least £15m-£20m to play with.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 14 Dec 2021, 11:22
by jimmystone
No point in this fight. Fury should threaten to vacate and hopefully WBC will make him champion emeritus. Fury v Usyk, Joyce and Joshua are the only fights that will give the fans value for money. Whyte is two levels below Fury.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 14 Dec 2021, 15:09
by margaret thatcher
wallin gave fury a decent go, gave him a scare and wasnt 2 levels below on the night

fury vs usyk should be the fight

if that';s not next, then fury vs whyte is good

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 06:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Fury vs. Whyte Targeted For March Date in Cardiff, Says Warren

Frank W, co-promoter for WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, explains that a mandatory defense against Dillian Whyte is currently being targeted for a March date in Cardiff.

A few weeks ago, the World Boxing Council ordered their respective camps to begin negotiations for a mandatory fight.

The two sides have begun discussions - with their biggest obstacle being the monetary split between the two fighters. Fury's team strongly feels that Whyte is entitled to no more than an 80-20 split of the money.

Warren believes Cardiff's 75,000-seat stadium makes the most sense for a March date.

"You've got to be realistic and look at the time of the year. First of all, of course it's a stadium fight but to put it in any stadium that doesn't have a roof and unfortunately none of them have got roofs other than Cardiff," Warren told Talk Sport.

"That's where we are. March is, we won't exactly be out in our shorts will we? And football season is on, so that will be a problem with nearly all the grounds. So, Cardiff would look to be the favorite."

Because the contest is a mandatory fight, and Fury's team is so confident of victory, there is likely not going to be a rematch clause.

"No, we'll just get it on. I don't think we'll need a rematch," Warren said.

Fury has been out of the ring since October, when he overcame two knockdowns to secure a spectacular knockout of Deontay Wilder in the eleventh round of their trilogy fight.

Whyte has been out of the ring since March, when he avenged a knockout loss with a stoppage of Alexander Povetkin. He was scheduled to face Otto Wallin a few months ago, but withdrew from the bout with a shoulder injury.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 06:52
by mickey1975
I thought Fwank owed Cardiff a few quid.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 16 Dec 2021, 07:10
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: 16 Dec 2021, 06:52 I thought Fwank owed Cardiff a few quid.
Why was that? Did he owe them money for a fight there when he wound up one of his companies?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 10:54
by Blueprint
Fury getting ready to vacate? :lol:


Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 11:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Blueprint wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 10:54 Fury getting ready to vacate? :lol:

Then it would be pursebid

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 13:35
by Dioufy
Got a feeling Tyson giving up his belt here.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 13:41
by magnus
Can't see Fury fighting Parker.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 13:53
by DrDuke
Fury didn't give the belt away to Wilder, why he should do it with Whyte? Back then, if not Wilder, he was to fight Joshua. But now Ruiz or Parker? Instead of Whyte for the belt? It could be possible, if he left the belt to challenge Usyk's three. Moreover, with Whyte the buildup will be better than with anybody else.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 14:32
by KiwiRider
magnus wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 13:41 Can't see Fury fighting Parker.
Me neither.
Not just the Andy Lee thing, but the bromance is strong with those two, it doesn't make for a good fight.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 14:35
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 11:51
Blueprint wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 10:54 Fury getting ready to vacate? :lol:

Then it would be pursebid
True, and Arum just wants to piss off Eddie while he has the trump card. Its the sort of thing he does. A feeble 90 year old clinging to the shreds of power.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 14:38
by mickey1975
KiwiRider wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 14:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 11:51
Blueprint wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 10:54 Fury getting ready to vacate? :lol:

Then it would be pursebid
True, and Arum just wants to piss off Eddie while he has the trump card. Its the sort of thing he does. A feeble 90 year old clinging to the shreds of power.
He owns Top Rank!

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 14:46
by KiwiRider
mickey1975 wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 14:38
KiwiRider wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 14:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 11:51

Then it would be pursebid
True, and Arum just wants to piss off Eddie while he has the trump card. Its the sort of thing he does. A feeble 90 year old clinging to the shreds of power.
He owns Top Rank!
You know what I mean Mick.
He loves to have a jab at Eddie when he can.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 15:53
by maverick23
There will never be a deal when there’s no purse split %s announced as no one properly knows their negotiating position. Whether it’s 80/20 or 55/45 or something in between could be the difference of £5m for Whyte.

Not sure why Bob’s talking about Tyson dropping the WBC. It’s not a great look for Tyson if he dumps it to avoid the fight.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 16:34
by mickey1975
Tyson doesn't need a belt. Do you really think he'll box on a Matchroom show?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 16:49
by Boxerbeetle
Will Tyson ever make a defence? :maybe: Very poor for his legacy if he doesn’t.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 16:55
by mickey1975
Boxerbeetle wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 16:49 Will Tyson ever make a defence? :maybe: Very poor for his legacy if he doesn’t.
He just has.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 16:59
by samwbr
Bad look if he turns down Whyte.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 17:28
by mickey1975
samwbr wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 16:59 Bad look if he turns down Whyte.
Why? He's just been knocked out, I don't think he's a big name in America so how can top Rank sell the pic's?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 18:00
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 16:34 Tyson doesn't need a belt. Do you really think he'll box on a Matchroom show?
He should box wherever he gets the most money.

Bob and Frank wouldn’t be happy with him fighting on a Matchroom show but I don’t see what Tyson’s problem would be. It’s not like they’re Triller and have a bad rep with cancellations or non-payments.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 18:04
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 17:28
samwbr wrote: 19 Dec 2021, 16:59 Bad look if he turns down Whyte.
Why? He's just been knocked out, I don't think he's a big name in America so how can top Rank sell the pic's?
Bob’s openly said he likes the Whyte fight in the U.K. as Whyte’s a big name here and Tyson hasn’t fought over here in a few years so would be a perfect homecoming fight.

Now they’ve realised that Whyte’s not wanting small change so Bob’s talking about other things.

They’re not going to get close to a deal until the purse splits are announced and it will force their hands a little more.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte - WBC Ordered

Posted: 19 Dec 2021, 19:17
by margaret thatcher
come on big tyson, lets put together a couple title defenses vs good opposition for the first time in your career, and lets beat another champ. be a good champ rather than just a deontay wilder fetishist. whyte and then the undisputed