Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2022, 05:25
by TheLeprechaun
GreenLightning wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 18:55
I rated Liam Williams far more than Liam Smith, he had faster hands, seemingly better power, more variety, fast sharp explosive imaginative work, seemed like a beast
And Smith just broke his heart, Williams was a beaten man in both those fights despite beating Smith up for the majority of the first, Smiths will won't be broken, it doesn't break, that alone means Eubank is probably in for a fight
It's true Eubank shines against come forward plodders, but Smith has more tools and intangibles than Spike OSullivan and certainly the likes of Yildrim and Nick Blackwell, doesn't get disheartened by taking hard shots to the head and he continues to come on the whole fight, Eubank Jr has been caught between styles and we havnt seen him firing off 30 punch combos in a long time, that was how he controlled the pace because he fades, Smith won't let him control the pace, but that's where Eubanks physical strength comes in, I think that's where the natural size will really factor in Eubanks favour
Smiths guard is also a bit better than the other earmuff wearers Eubank has shined against, I think Spike O'Sullivans defence was better when he had his hands DOWN!
Well they were close fights. The first fight Williams was ahead on the cards and the head clash was unfortunate. It should have gone to the cards and been a Williams win. The second fight was very close and could have gone either way for me. I did expect Williams to win that so Smith was better than I thought. The Kurbanov fight is a little worrying here for Liam. Going off my notes I have him being hurt at the end of the 6th, end of the 10th (legs went). Kurbanov didn't look world class or anything and Liam had his own success in the fight too. I had the fight for Kurbanov.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Dioufy wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 12:06
Well if he loses then he has a rematch clause.
Cannot personally believe how highly some people rate former IBO world champion Chris Eubank. He’s a very good fighter but will never breach world level.
Size won’t be a huge factor. Both will likely weigh the same come fight night. You question what Liam do well; if that’s your barometer then what the hell does Chris do well apart from have an iron jaw. What fights have impressed you so much about him? Even in defeat to Canelo Liam did himself proud.
Btw… not autistic… just sarcastic.
Irony, eh?
That autism comment was weird and doesn’t really make sense.
Yeah my bad as I didn’t quote the post I was replying to in which I got “told to control my autism” because I asked hypothetical, sarcastic questions on why Eubank couldn’t put Williams away.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2022, 06:37
by Cask
Don't think Smith would appreciate that considering his sister
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 02 Dec 2022, 06:50
by Dioufy
Cask wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 06:37
Don't think Smith would appreciate that considering his sister
I agree. A bit low.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Dioufy wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 12:06
Well if he loses then he has a rematch clause.
Cannot personally believe how highly some people rate former IBO world champion Chris Eubank. He’s a very good fighter but will never breach world level.
Size won’t be a huge factor. Both will likely weigh the same come fight night. You question what Liam do well; if that’s your barometer then what the hell does Chris do well apart from have an iron jaw. What fights have impressed you so much about him? Even in defeat to Canelo Liam did himself proud.
Btw… not autistic… just sarcastic.
Irony, eh?
That autism comment was weird and doesn’t really make sense.
Yeah my bad as I didn’t quote the post I was replying to in which I got “told to control my autism” because I asked hypothetical, sarcastic questions on why Eubank couldn’t put Williams away.
No mate. I meant the post aimed at you - not yours. I was defending you!
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
That autism comment was weird and doesn’t really make sense.
Yeah my bad as I didn’t quote the post I was replying to in which I got “told to control my autism” because I asked hypothetical, sarcastic questions on why Eubank couldn’t put Williams away.
No mate. I meant the post aimed at you - not yours. I was defending you!
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 06 Dec 2022, 13:59
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 07 Dec 2022, 04:36
by Kilburn
The problem with Eubank when he fought Williams was that he didn’t seem to want to admit that he needed to work really hard in order to win impressively. He was trying to dominate at a canter and show a gulf in class, but gave up plenty of rounds in doing so.
If he goes in against Smith with the same mindset but can’t knock the guy off his feet, who knows, he could well drop a decision.
Interesting match up, but Sky Box Office….? Come on…
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 11 Dec 2022, 16:40
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 11 Dec 2022, 16:41
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
I’d be surprised if it’s licensed given they seemingly wouldn’t approve Browne for Dubois.
Over 7 years since AJ blew right through him. I don’t see what Clarke gets from fighting him.
Simple.
Rounds.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 11 Dec 2022, 19:53
by gregregegg
No way they can sanction frazer clarke vs kingpin if they truely denied lucus brown on age.
Lucus brown is
-43
-coming off two good wins
-28th on boxrec
-top 10 WBA ranking
-Only lost 3 times.
Kingpin is
-43
-100s of rounds getting beaten up
-23 losses
-won 1 of his last 10
At least lucus is always a punchers chance, kingpin is just a sacraficial lamb here if it goes ahead.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 11 Dec 2022, 20:17
by TheLeprechaun
No sympathy for Browne after the Gallen fight. That was shady
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 11 Dec 2022, 20:21
by KiwiRider
I've had a little flutter on Beefy for this one. 2.60 isn't bad really.
Figure its been a while since anyone really put it on Eubank Jr, and Smith definitely will do that and I feel there is a chance he will out work him to squeak the decision.
It's the best fight Eubank has been in since Groves and I'm looking forward to not paying for it
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 11 Dec 2022, 20:23
by KiwiRider
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑11 Dec 2022, 20:17
No sympathy for Browne after the Gallen fight. That was shady
Browne is a faded force who was only a force when he was juicing. The sooner he retires, the better for boxing.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 11 Dec 2022, 20:40
by margaret thatcher
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑11 Dec 2022, 20:17
No sympathy for Browne after the Gallen fight. That was shady
agree, clear flop for me, one of the kds was pretty hilarious, browne dramatically threw himself to the canvas
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑11 Dec 2022, 20:17
No sympathy for Browne after the Gallen fight. That was shady
Browne is a faded force who was only a force when he was juicing. The sooner he retires, the better for boxing.
Agreed but the Fa win was a good statement and Fa is not long off going 12 with Parker. Blasting Fa out is more than enough for me to licence him over here but that Gallen fight was just way too suspect and maybe that was taken into account.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Dec 2022, 20:40
agree, clear flop for me, one of the kds was pretty hilarious, browne dramatically threw himself to the canvas
Totally agree.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
I’d be surprised if it’s licensed given they seemingly wouldn’t approve Browne for Dubois.
Over 7 years since AJ blew right through him. I don’t see what Clarke gets from fighting him.
Simple.
Rounds.
Getting rounds only matters if they’re being fought at a reasonable pace with shots coming back at him.
6 rounds with Sokolowski would be better than going longer with Johnson I think. I don’t remember him offering anything at all in the 10 rounds with Nathan Gorman 3 or so years ago.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
I’d be surprised if it’s licensed given they seemingly wouldn’t approve Browne for Dubois.
Over 7 years since AJ blew right through him. I don’t see what Clarke gets from fighting him.
Simple.
Rounds.
Getting rounds only matters if they’re being fought at a reasonable pace with shots coming back at him.
6 rounds with Sokolowski would be better than going longer with Johnson I think. I don’t remember him offering anything at all in the 10 rounds with Nathan Gorman 3 or so years ago.
No you’re right. He doesn’t offer anything.
Would love to see his punch stats for recent fights.
Although I could probably watch one of his fights now and count each round on my fingers.
Don’t wanna put myself through that.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 16 Dec 2022, 08:09
by Ruthless-RKO
Liam Smith: "I Wanted to Fight Eubank at 157 or 158 Pounds"
“I would have liked it to be 159, 158lbs,” Smith told Sky Sports. “But you've seen the big stink with the 157 pound thing with Conor Benn [for the fight that fell through] and I knew I was never going to get him that low.”
But I also know that with the fear and doubtful side on their part also, they're not going to fight me at 157 or 158 pounds,” Smith said of Eubank and his team. “They won't even fight me at 159 pounds. They know they're in a fight. They know their weakness in the fight also. So they're not going to give me any advantage because they know they're in a fight this time.”
"I do think he respects me,” Smith added. "He'd be stupid not to.”
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Getting rounds only matters if they’re being fought at a reasonable pace with shots coming back at him.
6 rounds with Sokolowski would be better than going longer with Johnson I think. I don’t remember him offering anything at all in the 10 rounds with Nathan Gorman 3 or so years ago.
No you’re right. He doesn’t offer anything.
Would love to see his punch stats for recent fights.
Although I could probably watch one of his fights now and count each round on my fingers.
Don’t wanna put myself through that.
I don't think Frazer is the best of technicians and Johnson has gone the distance with better. I think this will go the full distance but it's one of those fights where I also wouldn't be surprised if Frazer did him in 1 because Johnson has a lot of miles on the clock.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
Posted: 19 Dec 2022, 17:26
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Liam Smith | SKY PPV - 21 January 2023
