maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Aug 2022, 16:40
Eddie’s saying the 5lb rehydration thing is rubbish and it’s more than that.
Wel hopefully it is and they both have the same limits.
It's the size difference between the two of them that concerns me.
Eubank is way bigger. I remember listening to him talk about how he dropped from SMW to MW and it wasn't easy at all, and took time.
But what really grinds my gears is: Benn called him out, not the other way around, so why is everything on Benn's terms, and in his favour?
Seems to me, you call a man out, you don't dictate everything in your owb favour.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
MightyWarrior wrote: ↑15 Aug 2022, 01:44
It’s a dangerous fight for Benn, but it seems a very dangerous fight for Jr, he’s a big fave yes, but what they’re asking him to do seems borderline sadistic: losing that weight and same day weigh in, i surprised the board are letting them get away with that. He could be so dehydrated he’s fucked - that’s how you get badly hurt ..his trainer Roy knows all about how losing weight can finish your punch resistance doesn’t he …
Just shows what a cut throat buisness this is , and what scumbags , hang around the sport , because this is a dangerous fight ,, For whom i'm not so sure ,, but normally theres NO WAY would you put a guy in at 147 with a supermiddleweight , especielly when said guy has not fought anyone really who is young enough and/or good enough to be a match for him but the bigger guy has mied it at top level with other big guys and done ok
Then again , you would never expect a supermiddle to boil down to a weight he last saw at 18 years old , with a same day weigh in no chance for rehdration , and a big chance he could be going in with the last few weeks of starving himself and losing muscle mass not fat ,
both scenarios dangerous ,, and why so Eddie can keep his ppv fighter from getting beat unless he has an excuse , he was just too big
This has always been my argument. Dangerous for both fighters for different reasons imo. Eubank is being forced to cut too much weight which could really reduce rehydration. Or Benn could get severely hurt by the bigger and more experienced man. What also worries me is both boxers dads have inflicted life changing injuries to opponents so know the risks more than anyone. And yet they fully support the fight.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
MightyWarrior wrote: ↑15 Aug 2022, 01:44
It’s a dangerous fight for Benn, but it seems a very dangerous fight for Jr, he’s a big fave yes, but what they’re asking him to do seems borderline sadistic: losing that weight and same day weigh in, i surprised the board are letting them get away with that. He could be so dehydrated he’s fucked - that’s how you get badly hurt ..his trainer Roy knows all about how losing weight can finish your punch resistance doesn’t he …
Just shows what a cut throat buisness this is , and what scumbags , hang around the sport , because this is a dangerous fight ,, For whom i'm not so sure ,, but normally theres NO WAY would you put a guy in at 147 with a supermiddleweight , especielly when said guy has not fought anyone really who is young enough and/or good enough to be a match for him but the bigger guy has mied it at top level with other big guys and done ok
Then again , you would never expect a supermiddle to boil down to a weight he last saw at 18 years old , with a same day weigh in no chance for rehdration , and a big chance he could be going in with the last few weeks of starving himself and losing muscle mass not fat ,
both scenarios dangerous ,, and why so Eddie can keep his ppv fighter from getting beat unless he has an excuse , he was just too big
This has always been my argument. Dangerous for both fighters for different reasons imo. Eubank is being forced to cut too much weight which could really reduce rehydration. Or Benn could get severely hurt by the bigger and more experienced man. What also worries me is both boxers dads have inflicted life changing injuries to opponents so know the risks more than anyone. And yet they fully support the fight.
Think its all down to MONEY MONEY MONEY ,, at least on Eubanks part , regards the dads , especielly Benn i think theres some sort of delight his son is keeping him relevent ,, Thy needed each other and were both great boxers , but it was there great rivalary that made them , , and too be honest they had a couple great fights , but both have been elevated over the years to a lot higher status than they deserve ,, has good has they were both did'nt fight the true really top guys of here era , don't care what anyone says the really top guys were RJJ , Toney and a few more ,, Benn and eubank senior were really just like Benn and Eubank junior ,, good but not the best .
I am hoping though that the Eubanks are supposudly really difficult to deal with , and i hope that the last week , Eubank comes along with a sick note , and states he's pulling out if Benn comes in one gram heavier than he is ,, if its 168-170 for Benn it must be the same for Eubank .
Although playing devils advocate , i seen an interview with Simms on u tube , he stated the approach and the weight was all made by Eubank , said they were not looking at the fight UNTIL Eubank approached them and offered the fight at 157 ,, would possibly make you think maybee he can make that weight comfortable ,, but if he could you would have to say why has'nt he been boing at that weight ,
Thats the problem its boxing you can't believe anything your told
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Aug 2022, 16:40
Eddie’s saying the 5lb rehydration thing is rubbish and it’s more than that.
Wel hopefully it is and they both have the same limits.
It's the size difference between the two of them that concerns me.
Eubank is way bigger. I remember listening to him talk about how he dropped from SMW to MW and it wasn't easy at all, and took time.
But what really grinds my gears is: Benn called him out, not the other way around, so why is everything on Benn's terms, and in his favour?
Seems to me, you call a man out, you don't dictate everything in your owb favour.
ultimately it makes Benn a poundshop Canelo- i guess CEJ knows he isn't getting a similar payday elsewhere so the Benn team knew he'd end up making concessions.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 16 Aug 2022, 11:36
by CaptainSpacerod
I’m sure Jr is planning on getting down to 159 maybe 160 and is quite happy to sacrifice a small fraction of his purse in order to give himself the best possible chance of beating Benn.
He’s an intelligent man with a massive ego, no way would he entertain the prospect of handicapping himself so badly if he thought it could contribute to a loss that he would never hear the end of
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 16 Aug 2022, 15:06
by Pukka Cheese
IMO If JR's team didnt think he could safely make the *agreed* weight for the weigh ins they would have negotiated it higher.
No way senior lets his son fight if hes looking like death, dehydrated to fornicate on the fight day weigh in.
'Eubank fined for coming in overweight' is a great headline though. Its all great for the promotion. The fines, talks about 157, 163, Benn being 170.... Im sure its not absolute shite at all
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Just shows what a cut throat buisness this is , and what scumbags , hang around the sport , because this is a dangerous fight ,, For whom i'm not so sure ,, but normally theres NO WAY would you put a guy in at 147 with a supermiddleweight , especielly when said guy has not fought anyone really who is young enough and/or good enough to be a match for him but the bigger guy has mied it at top level with other big guys and done ok
Then again , you would never expect a supermiddle to boil down to a weight he last saw at 18 years old , with a same day weigh in no chance for rehdration , and a big chance he could be going in with the last few weeks of starving himself and losing muscle mass not fat ,
both scenarios dangerous ,, and why so Eddie can keep his ppv fighter from getting beat unless he has an excuse , he was just too big
This has always been my argument. Dangerous for both fighters for different reasons imo. Eubank is being forced to cut too much weight which could really reduce rehydration. Or Benn could get severely hurt by the bigger and more experienced man. What also worries me is both boxers dads have inflicted life changing injuries to opponents so know the risks more than anyone. And yet they fully support the fight.
Think its all down to MONEY MONEY MONEY ,, at least on Eubanks part , regards the dads , especielly Benn i think theres some sort of delight his son is keeping him relevent ,, Thy needed each other and were both great boxers , but it was there great rivalary that made them , , and too be honest they had a couple great fights , but both have been elevated over the years to a lot higher status than they deserve ,, has good has they were both did'nt fight the true really top guys of here era , don't care what anyone says the really top guys were RJJ , Toney and a few more ,, Benn and eubank senior were really just like Benn and Eubank junior ,, good but not the best .
I am hoping though that the Eubanks are supposudly really difficult to deal with , and i hope that the last week , Eubank comes along with a sick note , and states he's pulling out if Benn comes in one gram heavier than he is ,, if its 168-170 for Benn it must be the same for Eubank .
Although playing devils advocate , i seen an interview with Simms on u tube , he stated the approach and the weight was all made by Eubank , said they were not looking at the fight UNTIL Eubank approached them and offered the fight at 157 ,, would possibly make you think maybee he can make that weight comfortable ,, but if he could you would have to say why has'nt he been boing at that weight ,
Thats the problem its boxing you can't believe anything your told
Michael Nunn was also avoided by Benn and Eubank. The other ironic thing about this event is Both Sr's and Jr's need each other to remain relevant. And your right, neither boxer is elite,world class. And I'm all for maximising financial gain but imo boxing just keeps shooting itself in the foot time and time again
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 05:47
by gregregegg
maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Aug 2022, 16:40
Eddie’s saying the 5lb rehydration thing is rubbish and it’s more than that.
then he should say what it is. Its a madness that you can have a sporting contest with secret rules....
Imagine if befor a football game a team forced there opponents to not sleep the night before but they wernt allowed to tell anyone that... Thats bassicaly what a rehydration clause is equivelent too.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Aug 2022, 16:40
Eddie’s saying the 5lb rehydration thing is rubbish and it’s more than that.
then he should say what it is. Its a madness that you can have a sporting contest with secret rules....
Imagine if befor a football game a team forced there opponents to not sleep the night before but they wernt allowed to tell anyone that... Thats bassicaly what a rehydration clause is equivelent too.
6lbs.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 18:56
by goose 5
Was Benn really 170 against Van Heerden ?
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 17 Aug 2022, 21:52
by coneye
goose 5 wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022, 18:56
Was Benn really 170 against Van Heerden ?
Seems a bit much does'nt it thats 10 kilo or there abouts
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 04:19
by Nightmare Roy
I imagine Jnr will come in a bit heavier and just pay the fine, 100k a pound, now much if you are getting paid several million
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 04:30
by Ruthless-RKO
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 04:19
I imagine Jnr will come in a bit heavier and just pay the fine, 100k a pound, now much if you are getting paid several million
Yh in the past we’ve seen higher fines.. this doesn’t seem too much considering he’s already a millionaire.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 04:19
I imagine Jnr will come in a bit heavier and just pay the fine, 100k a pound, now much if you are getting paid several million
Yh in the past we’ve seen higher fines.. this doesn’t seem too much considering he’s already a millionaire.
although I did read Benn has the right to walk away completely if he comes in over 158.5 I think it was. Who knows though
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 08:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 09:18
by Loynesy
From a boxing perspective, it's just a horrible fight. They are both 11-20 in their respective divisions, but whole point is:
E is bigger than B.
We have divisions for a reason.
It really hurts being punched in the face.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 09:30
by tony1234
Loynesy wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 09:18
From a boxing perspective, it's just a horrible fight. They are both 11-20 in their respective divisions, but whole point is:
E is bigger than B.
We have divisions for a reason.
It really hurts being punched in the face.
Which is why it's strange the BoC have sanctioned it, if one of them gets badly hurt someone should be facing a considerable bit of time in jail
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 10:03
by Ruthless-RKO
Boxers always saying stuff like 'public execution' as well..
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 04:19
I imagine Jnr will come in a bit heavier and just pay the fine, 100k a pound, now much if you are getting paid several million
Yh in the past we’ve seen higher fines.. this doesn’t seem too much considering he’s already a millionaire.
although I did read Benn has the right to walk away completely if he comes in over 158.5 I think it was. Who knows though
And thats not very likely is it.
All the planning and financial outlay of costs for one of them to put an end to it the day before .. no chance.
It won`t be difficult for Jr to come in 159 because he did 160 only recently .. it may get more difficult getting to 157. However Eubank snr has just lost one son and won`t be allowing another to take big risks. I`d not be slightest bit surprised to see jr weigh in heavy and just pay the fine.
What they should do is make it 25% of the boxers fight purse for each pound over goes to the other ... weekly weighs from something like 4 weeks to demonstrate they are on course. More than 7lb over a week before or 4lb the day before, and it gets stopped and refunds to fans to save them the additional costs.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 18 Aug 2022, 13:21
by chinarich
I, like many, enjoyed watching the original Benn and Eubank in their pomp and the rivalry between them, but I just have zero interest in this fight. I don't mind either son when they are fighting other people, but this is purely a cynical money grab employing a recycled rivalry...
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 13:17
by Lenny Cravats
I've just got round to watching the press conference.
CEJ was absolutely hilarious. Watched the whole thing laughing at some of the stuff he was saying. So much better than the overdone, in your face, all out fake-aggressive trash talking nonsense you normally get... Which is why I rarely watch them.
Re: Chris Eubank Jr. vs. Conor Benn | DAZN PPV - 8 October 2022
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 14:24
by Dioufy
goose 5 wrote: ↑17 Aug 2022, 18:56
Was Benn really 170 against Van Heerden ?
Mate, Hearn said it. Probably stupid. To put on 23lbs you surely have to be crashing the weight in a dangerously big way,
I can imagine josh Taylor being over a middle on fight night.
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