BoxRec

What a nipple!

Is he even top 15 with any org?

This is worst than when he fought Molina.

I do thin Arreola tried harder though.

Only in this sport can you go from maybe Fury v AJ to AJ v Arreola/Fury v Chisora III.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 04:54 Arreola being mentioned!

Ricky wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 11:08

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 04:54 Arreola being mentioned!

It wasn't me who mentioned it!

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 12:06

Ricky wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 11:08

mickey1975 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 04:54 Arreola being mentioned!

It wasn't me who mentioned it!

wasn there a few names listed - I cant remember who but arreola was one of a few

I've heard Hearn mention pushing this back a few times. AJ also seems to be spending a lot of time doing his 'commercial' work.....

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:16 I've heard Hearn mention pushing this back a few times. AJ also seems to be spending a lot of time doing his 'commercial' work.....

When you have the amount of blue-ribbon sponsors AJ does then it involves a lot of commercial work.

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:16 I've heard Hearn mention pushing this back a few times. AJ also seems to be spending a lot of time doing his 'commercial' work.....

When you have the amount of blue-ribbon sponsors AJ does then it involves a lot of commercial work.

Surely he's taken a pay cut or even sacked by some. Losing twice then imploding isn't a good look. His popularity isn't even half what it was.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 04:39

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:16 I've heard Hearn mention pushing this back a few times. AJ also seems to be spending a lot of time doing his 'commercial' work.....

When you have the amount of blue-ribbon sponsors AJ does then it involves a lot of commercial work.

Surely he's taken a pay cut or even sacked by some. Losing twice then imploding isn't a good look. His popularity isn't even half what it was.

Perhaps some of his contracts won’t be renewed. Who knows. He should put them on the back burner for a while, join a pro gym that’ll get the aggression back in him and build some momentum.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:16 I've heard Hearn mention pushing this back a few times. AJ also seems to be spending a lot of time doing his 'commercial' work.....

Before previous fights he has tended to train overseas before signing for a fight. This time, a fashion show in Milan suggests he wasn't too serious about fighting on 3rd December.

Those fashion shows are killers.

So much for getting Joshua active, doubt we'll see him again this year, probably February with talk of him out again in the summer before it's actually October

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 04:50

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 04:39

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:51

When you have the amount of blue-ribbon sponsors AJ does then it involves a lot of commercial work.

Surely he's taken a pay cut or even sacked by some. Losing twice then imploding isn't a good look. His popularity isn't even half what it was.

Perhaps some of his contracts won’t be renewed. Who knows. He should put them on the back burner for a while, join a pro gym that’ll get the aggression back in him and build some momentum.

Yes, spar a few pros, maybe even let their coaches watch.

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:16 I've heard Hearn mention pushing this back a few times. AJ also seems to be spending a lot of time doing his 'commercial' work.....

When you have the amount of blue-ribbon sponsors AJ does then it involves a lot of commercial work.

He's insinuating Joshua's using PEDs, even though it was Mickey's man-crush who was banned for taking nandrolone,

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 13:37

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 03:16 I've heard Hearn mention pushing this back a few times. AJ also seems to be spending a lot of time doing his 'commercial' work.....

When you have the amount of blue-ribbon sponsors AJ does then it involves a lot of commercial work.

He's insinuating Joshua's using PEDs, even though it was Mickey's man-crush who was banned for taking nandrolone,

Tyson was also banned for taking cocaine too from memory and it just so happens that his doctor that he sees for the occasional sniffle fancies himself as a PED specialist.

OTTO WALLIN CONFIRMS APPROACH FOR ANTHONY JOSHUA FIGHT

Swedish heavyweight Otto Wallin confirmed in an interview with ProBoxingFans that he has been approached about a potential fight versus Anthony Joshua next.

Joshua’s promoter Eddie Hearn plans for ‘AJ’ to return on December 17th for a first fight since his rematch defeat to Oleksandr Usyk in August. A number of names had been rumoured to face the thirty-two-year-old including veteran Chris Arreola, but it appears Wallin has officially received a call to clash with the former two-time heavyweight champion.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Oct 2022, 07:23 OTTO WALLIN CONFIRMS APPROACH FOR ANTHONY JOSHUA FIGHT

Swedish heavyweight Otto Wallin confirmed in an interview with ProBoxingFans that he has been approached about a potential fight versus Anthony Joshua next.

Joshua’s promoter Eddie Hearn plans for ‘AJ’ to return on December 17th for a first fight since his rematch defeat to Oleksandr Usyk in August. A number of names had been rumoured to face the thirty-two-year-old including veteran Chris Arreola, but it appears Wallin has officially received a call to clash with the former two-time heavyweight champion.

Probably should of faced him before facing Usyk. Maybe the plans to do a number on an opponent who took Fury the full 12 rounds and shreded his face

handsofstone wrote: ↑12 Oct 2022, 05:08 So much for getting Joshua active, doubt we'll see him again this year, probably February with talk of him out again in the summer before it's actually October

That was always bullcrap.

Does Eddie Hearn seriously think that anyone believes him about getting Joshua out in December when he fought in September?

Unless he was planning a non PPV bout, which I doubt, it was never going to happen.

Joshua fights once every 6 months or so; that's what he does.

“There are talks, and they’re trying to figure out if something happens,” said Chris Arreola to spam about a fight against Anthony Joshua. “If it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t matter to me. I’m fighting regardless. I’m fighting in December.

“I’m getting my butt back in the ring. I was supposed to fight in September. I was supposed to fight in May. Everything keeps getting pushed back. It’s part of boxing. I’m okay with that, but I need to fight this year.

“It’s either you, Joshua or someone else. Whoever it is, they’re going to have a nightmare that day. I’m going to tell you the truth. I’m the type of fighter that loves fighting. I love what I do.

“I’m grateful to be a big Mexican. I’m grateful to be a heavyweight. I’m grateful to be a fighter. I get paid to fight, and if I’m going to fight, it’s a good thing for me. So if I fight someone like Joshua, I’m going to bring him the fight.

“I’m going to make sure he knows he’s in a fight. I’m going to make sure he knows that ‘You can hit me, but I’m going to get back up, and we’re going to keep f***en fighting. I’m a dog. There’s dog in me.

“There could be something there,” said Arreola when told that one of Joshua’s losses was to a Mexican fighter in Andy Ruiz Jr. “That’s why he went to go get a Mexican trainer because he needed to learn a little Mexican style, do you know what I mean?

“Just one training camp with a Mexican trainer ain’t going to make you a Mexican fighter, as we’ve seen. The first couple of rounds with him and Usyk looked like he was doing some Mexican thing that he learned from Diaz. But after a while, you go back to your old tricks, and we seen how it went down with Usyk.

“That’s one of the things that’s been in the works. I’ll take that fight,” said Arreola to ESNEWS about the Anthony Joshua fight in December. “You like it; I love it.

“Joshua, don’t be a b**ch. Let’s make this mother f***er happen. I’m a fighter; I love fighting. Let’s make this fight. Here, there, anywhere, wherever you want to f***ing call it. I’m willing,” said Arreola.

Will likely fight early 2023..

He'll have two confidence builders.. against top 15 opponents..



When Eddie Hearn joined the DAZN Boxing Show last week, he suggested that Joshua would have two quick fights against ‘credible’ top 15 opponents to build his confidence back up.

“I always felt after the Usyk fight, he should come back with two top 15 guys, and then Fury dangled the carrot, and AJ took the bait. But now that’s not happening, it’s still the same plan, really,” he said.

“He [Joshua] could choose to take that fight [Deontay Wilder] next, but it’s likely you’ll see him in with a top 15 guy. Sometimes I read stuff. AJ has made an offer to Chris Arreola. Absolute rubbish. The next thing. that’s reported in every newspaper.

“I’ve not even spoken to Chris Arreola about the fight, and that’s everywhere. I’m not saying that’s a bad fight. But we’ve not reached out to him at all about that fight.

“Otto Wallin’s name gets thrown around sometimes. Obviously, he had a good fight with Tyson Fury. Anyone in that top 15. Joe Joyce is a good fight, a tough fight. I think he’s a handful for anybody. That could be a big UK fight.

“For me, see what happens with AJ’s team. If he doesn’t get the Fury fight and it doesn’t look like he will, I think we revert to two quick fights to get the machine moving and the confidence back and become a three-time world champion.”

Fury and Joshua could fight. Now one of them is sceduled to fight Chisora, while the other one is aiming at Arreola. It's all you need to know about the state of boxiing.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 06:29 Will likely fight early 2023..

He'll have two confidence builders.. against top 15 opponents..



When Eddie Hearn joined the DAZN Boxing Show last week, he suggested that Joshua would have two quick fights against ‘credible’ top 15 opponents to build his confidence back up.

“I always felt after the Usyk fight, he should come back with two top 15 guys, and then Fury dangled the carrot, and AJ took the bait. But now that’s not happening, it’s still the same plan, really,” he said.

“He [Joshua] could choose to take that fight [Deontay Wilder] next, but it’s likely you’ll see him in with a top 15 guy. Sometimes I read stuff. AJ has made an offer to Chris Arreola. Absolute rubbish. The next thing. that’s reported in every newspaper.

“I’ve not even spoken to Chris Arreola about the fight, and that’s everywhere. I’m not saying that’s a bad fight. But we’ve not reached out to him at all about that fight.

“Otto Wallin’s name gets thrown around sometimes. Obviously, he had a good fight with Tyson Fury. Anyone in that top 15. Joe Joyce is a good fight, a tough fight. I think he’s a handful for anybody. That could be a big UK fight.

“For me, see what happens with AJ’s team. If he doesn’t get the Fury fight and it doesn’t look like he will, I think we revert to two quick fights to get the machine moving and the confidence back and become a three-time world champion.”

I don't think Hearn wanted the Fury fight for AJ at all. He's saying he wants top 15 opponents so he can sell his cash cow in big shows knowing that his cash cow almost certainly wins. If he makes AJ-Fury and Fury knocks AJ out, AJ quite probably retires. And then Eddie has lost his cash cow. I'd be very surprised if he risks it against Joe Joyce too.

garethhop wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 15:19

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 14:35 It's going to be a really hard sell for Joshua now, to be anything like the terms he had before.
Might he go down the Fury-esque, 'miracle comeback' route? I dunno. He's not really that personality type. He isn't adored as a personality like Fury and Bruno.
The whole thing with AJ was the belief that he was, (to the casuals) unbeatable.
Salvaging the Titanic might be easier.
From a boxing fan POV, I'd like to see him in with Wilder.

You're bang on. People who say it's just 2 losses to an all time great miss the point. AJ was unbeatable. Even the Ruiz defeat was quickly reversed. But now it's 3 losses in 5, it's 2 hidings one after another, it's a meltdown in the ring where he looked a cock, and it's dropping a tier.

Of course he can still make big money and sell out arenas and do good numbers in a stadium with the right opponent, but he is a different set of goods now.

And he's very beatable too.

December? We'll see.

It was never going to be December was it?

garethhop wrote: ↑21 Oct 2022, 04:00

garethhop wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 15:19

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑01 Sep 2022, 14:35 It's going to be a really hard sell for Joshua now, to be anything like the terms he had before.
Might he go down the Fury-esque, 'miracle comeback' route? I dunno. He's not really that personality type. He isn't adored as a personality like Fury and Bruno.
The whole thing with AJ was the belief that he was, (to the casuals) unbeatable.
Salvaging the Titanic might be easier.
From a boxing fan POV, I'd like to see him in with Wilder.

You're bang on. People who say it's just 2 losses to an all time great miss the point. AJ was unbeatable. Even the Ruiz defeat was quickly reversed. But now it's 3 losses in 5, it's 2 hidings one after another, it's a meltdown in the ring where he looked a cock, and it's dropping a tier.

Of course he can still make big money and sell out arenas and do good numbers in a stadium with the right opponent, but he is a different set of goods now.

And he's very beatable too.

December? We'll see.

It was never going to be December was it?

Absolutely no chance that Joshua was ever going to fight in December, having fought in September.

I don't know why Hearn even said that publicly, because we all knew it was bullcrap.