Fury must be gutted he can't pile in on Eddie here because although usually he doesn't mind being a total hypocrite he best let sleeping dogs lie eh
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 09 Oct 2022, 06:44
by Controversial
handsofstone wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 04:19
Fury must be gutted he can't pile in on Eddie here because although usually he doesn't mind being a total hypocrite he best let sleeping dogs lie eh
I was thinking this too that the F W team are very quiet
handsofstone wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 04:19
Fury must be gutted he can't pile in on Eddie here because although usually he doesn't mind being a total hypocrite he best let sleeping dogs lie eh
I was thinking this too that the F W team are very quiet
Frank is suprisingly quiet. Ben shalom did the "i wouldent do that" interview. i was expecting Fwank to be strait onto one of them.
The doctor, claiming to be an expert, reckons they are all at it inc Eubank
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 09 Oct 2022, 07:11
by gregregegg
Love for boxrec to add a testing record database... Where every test (negitive or positive and levles) gets recorded.
I know WBC ranked fighters get randomly tested. I know UK fighters "can" get randomly tested, although i dont know what levle that starts at.... and how often?
If your a top 50ish guy, from argentina with no fight booked will you ever get randomly tested?
what about a top 25ish guy from southafrica?
what about a top 10ish guy from USA, not WBC ranked, no fight signed... is there people that can come round to your house and test you?
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 09 Oct 2022, 07:27
by Controversial
It’s so easy to cheat it seems, especially if you aren’t enrolled in VADA, which only the top fighters will be due to the costs involved. From what is being said you would have to be pretty stupid to fail the UKAD test. Out of interest has anyone famous failed a UKAD test?
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 09 Oct 2022, 07:33
by Boxerbeetle
Controversial wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 07:27
It’s so easy to cheat it seems, especially if you aren’t enrolled in VADA, which only the top fighters will be due to the costs involved. From what is being said you would have to be pretty stupid to fail the UKAD test. Out of interest has anyone famous failed a UKAD test?
Just Tyson Fury, I think…
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 09 Oct 2022, 08:57
by Coco
Realistically there is no testing unless you are a championship fighter(fighting for area titles and above)
Folk were saying that all Sim's fighters must be at it
Wincobank fighters have had the Ingles Pringles stuff thrown at them, and the gym has gym called the Lab.
Both Hughie and Tyson tested positive with Peter Fury, I think Lucas Browne too,is Savannah Marshall at it?
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 09 Oct 2022, 09:13
by Spud
I have got to say, in all of the criticisms I have written about the whole situation I firmly believe Tony Sims is a top bloke.
I will honestly be stunned if he has anything to do with this
Controversial wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 07:27
It’s so easy to cheat it seems, especially if you aren’t enrolled in VADA, which only the top fighters will be due to the costs involved. From what is being said you would have to be pretty stupid to fail the UKAD test. Out of interest has anyone famous failed a UKAD test?
Controversial wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 07:27
It’s so easy to cheat it seems, especially if you aren’t enrolled in VADA, which only the top fighters will be due to the costs involved. From what is being said you would have to be pretty stupid to fail the UKAD test. Out of interest has anyone famous failed a UKAD test?
Just Tyson Fury, I think…
Fury mentions Dr Usman here
Oh dear.... Not a good look at all. Even Fury diehards will question this. Obviously most will brush it off with "even if he is using, all the rest are too" but come on when a Dr specialising in what Usman Specialises in says 80-90% of fighters are doping. You are guilty by association in the eyes of many if you are working with the guy. It doesn't really matter if Usman is helping Fury and others cheat or he isn't, almost everybody will think he is now. He's dug his own grave.
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 09 Oct 2022, 14:57
by Counter-puncher
‘When a doctor specialises in what Usman specialises in’ it’s hilarious to hear a bloke talk about going to him for common colds and injuries.
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 09 Oct 2022, 16:24
by jimmystone
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 14:57
‘When a doctor specialises in what Usman specialises in’ it’s hilarious to hear a bloke talk about going to him for common colds and injuries.
Exactly. Anecdotally pretty much every doctor I've ever met has a God complex and can't wait to tell you what they are up to and what they can do. Dr Usman has, it would seem, dropped himself and his clients face first in the shite by not being able to keep his gob shut. He said that from his experience 80-90% of fighters use PEDS. He is an expert in androgen use. Are we to believe and accept that his clients, amongst whom are some of the very best in the world, are part of the 10-20% that he believes don't use? That his clients have chosen an expert in PED usage to wipe their nose and tuck them in when they have the sniffles? On the face of it, unless he is just a fantasist, it could turn out he is boxing's Victor Conte. I hope it's the former.
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 14:57
‘When a doctor specialises in what Usman specialises in’ it’s hilarious to hear a bloke talk about going to him for common colds and injuries.
Exactly. Anecdotally pretty much every doctor I've ever met has a God complex and can't wait to tell you what they are up to and what they can do. Dr Usman has, it would seem, dropped himself and his clients face first in the shite by not being able to keep his gob shut. He said that from his experience 80-90% of fighters use PEDS. He is an expert in androgen use. Are we to believe and accept that his clients, amongst whom are some of the very best in the world, are part of the 10-20% that he believes don't use? That his clients have chosen an expert in PED usage to wipe their nose and tuck them in when they have the sniffles? On the face of it, unless he is just a fantasist, it could turn out he is boxing's Victor Conte. I hope it's the former.
I was amazed at his indiscretion. And they say Bond villains are unrealistic in not being able to resist braying about their own cleverness. Those who worked with him must be eating their livers over it.
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 09 Oct 2022, 18:44
by polecateddy
Pretty much everything they’re doing is injection based, so dosing and placement isn’t something you can do very easily unless you prepared for years or trial and error. Professional boxers need to get it right straight away.
Coco wrote: ↑08 Oct 2022, 16:11
Dillian Whytes adverse finding went away, it was a VADA finding too, I'm sure the same thing will be happen to Benn
Because of the publicity about this fight a lot more people are aware of it in the UK than when Whyte/Fury/BJS and even Canelo got caught out.
Whilst Hearn has spent huge amounts on Benn and was looking to get something back with the contest, his reputation is now on the line .. I think it will be very interesting where Eddie goes from here. He could close his eyes and go the fWank route of being a scum bag and accepting it, or he could choose to distance himself by dropping Benn.
There is no way in hell that Hearn is gonna drop Benn, he’ll continue to back him and promote him, which he should do, cause that’s his job
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 13 Oct 2022, 18:24
by big lennox
Powerful stuff from Eubank Snr. Just awful what he and his family have had to go through.
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 14 Oct 2022, 05:35
by boomtown65
I think the excuse will be "making love to his mrs" and got the very low traces of the drug from her!!!
he will be back fighting early next year
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 14 Oct 2022, 08:28
by a force
Spud wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 09:13
I have got to say, in all of the criticisms I have written about the whole situation I firmly believe Tony Sims is a top bloke.
I will honestly be stunned if he has anything to do with this
You serious? Knowing that his fighters on PEDS probably wouldn’t make the top 500 of bad things Sims has been involved in.
Spud wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 09:13
I have got to say, in all of the criticisms I have written about the whole situation I firmly believe Tony Sims is a top bloke.
I will honestly be stunned if he has anything to do with this
You serious? Knowing that his fighters on PEDS probably wouldn’t make the top 500 of bad things Sims has been involved in.
I am completely serious, I met Tony years ago and thought then he was a good bloke who is highly regarded by all those that have met him
Its a rare thing in boxing but I have not heard a bad word said about him
Spud wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 09:13
I have got to say, in all of the criticisms I have written about the whole situation I firmly believe Tony Sims is a top bloke.
I will honestly be stunned if he has anything to do with this
You serious? Knowing that his fighters on PEDS probably wouldn’t make the top 500 of bad things Sims has been involved in.
I am completely serious, I met Tony years ago and thought then he was a good bloke who is highly regarded by all those that have met him
Its a rare thing in boxing but I have not heard a bad word said about him
I’m sure he’s a nice enough bloke to talk to but he has a very chequered past.
Spud wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 09:13
I have got to say, in all of the criticisms I have written about the whole situation I firmly believe Tony Sims is a top bloke.
I will honestly be stunned if he has anything to do with this
You serious? Knowing that his fighters on PEDS probably wouldn’t make the top 500 of bad things Sims has been involved in.
I am completely serious, I met Tony years ago and thought then he was a good bloke who is highly regarded by all those that have met him
Its a rare thing in boxing but I have not heard a bad word said about him
Does he love his muvva ?
If he was a scouser he would really love his nan like.
I bet his neighbours leave their doors unlocked and sing knees up mother brown
Spud wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 09:13
I have got to say, in all of the criticisms I have written about the whole situation I firmly believe Tony Sims is a top bloke.
I will honestly be stunned if he has anything to do with this
You serious? Knowing that his fighters on PEDS probably wouldn’t make the top 500 of bad things Sims has been involved in.
I am completely serious, I met Tony years ago and thought then he was a good bloke who is highly regarded by all those that have met him
Its a rare thing in boxing but I have not heard a bad word said about him
People love to say the Kray twins were just misunderstood , nice boys and the area was safer with them in it , Cos they were lovely boys ,, They tend to forget , they were sent to jail for Murder .
Simms , well i for one have said he should be banned has well ,, did he know , course he knew ,, he's too good a trainer not to know ,, he seen the improvements in strenght , speed , and especielly power Benn has made , he's watched his physique change ,, HE KNEW
Re: Connor Benn fails drug test!
Posted: 14 Oct 2022, 14:39
by mickey1975
Spencer Oliver was asked today if Benn was guilty, innocent or not sure? He replied "am I missing something here? HE FAILED A F UCKING DRUG TEST".