Anthony Joshua vs. Robert Helenius | DAZN - 12 August 2023

[The Gratest]

So so triggered is little Dev

[rhino222]

Question...

Is Helenius a better opponent than Whyte? Whyte is an absolute busted flush. If Whyte fought Helenius (Im on about now, not when they fought 6 years ago), who would be favourite to win? Id say its a 50/50 scrap.

Therefore. AJ has an opponent the same standard as Whyte, and its not on PPV. AJ loses a lot of coin, the public gain as its non PPV.

[quickeyg]

tick tock, tick tock, tick tock

[The Gratest]

Dribbling Dev's still soooo triggered

[Finkel]

Question...

Is Helenius a better opponent than Whyte? Whyte is an absolute busted flush. If Whyte fought Helenius (Im on about now, not when they fought 6 years ago), who would be favourite to win? Id say its a 50/50 scrap.

Therefore. AJ has an opponent the same standard as Whyte, and its not on PPV. AJ loses a lot of coin, the public gain as its non PPV.

Difficult question to assess. The Wilder fight was Helenius laying-down and laying-down early for his friend and stable mate. So, I expect more resistance against Joshua. Would he beat Whyte? Probably not. Helenius only has some juice left in his career because he popped the bubble of a manufactured contender in Kownacki, who the PBC had carefully been building up as a future Wilder victim. Instead, Helenius stepped in to be that replacement patsy, against WIlder, and now he may do the same for Joshua. At the same time, I would expect no favours from a PBC aligned fighter comparable to how PBC stage manage in-house fights, so I think Helenius will go some rounds if just so that favourable comparisons can be made on behalf of Wilder.

Though, I'm still looking forward to the card.
Especially to see what kind of performance Hrgovic has in him.

[gregregegg]

People seem to think helenius is the best actor in the world.... you cant act that shit, it dosent look like a big shot but it got him while swinging and was clean as a whistle.

Heli didnt take a dive, but he did fight reckless (although pushing back wilder was aplauded when fury did it, so heli having the same game plan should also be aplauded, just not the same skill haha.).

[oogiebe]

What is up with Mr. Emoji???

[margaret thatcher]

he is apparently dev, a midget who works for fwank warren

[tonyevs]

People seem to think helenius is the best actor in the world.... you cant act that shit, it dosent look like a big shot but it got him while swinging and was clean as a whistle.

Heli didnt take a dive, but he did fight reckless (although pushing back wilder was aplauded when fury did it, so heli having the same game plan should also be aplauded, just not the same skill haha.).

It looked a blatant dive to me.
He did get clipped but not by the usual Wilder swing but from what looked a glancing arm shot .. not that it would be something I'd fancy taking; but not the type of shot even Wilder had demonstrated before.

[gregregegg]

People seem to think helenius is the best actor in the world.... you cant act that shit, it dosent look like a big shot but it got him while swinging and was clean as a whistle.

Heli didnt take a dive, but he did fight reckless (although pushing back wilder was aplauded when fury did it, so heli having the same game plan should also be aplauded, just not the same skill haha.).

It looked a blatant dive to me.
He did get clipped but not by the usual Wilder swing but from what looked a glancing arm shot .. not that it would be something I'd fancy taking; but not the type of shot even Wilder had demonstrated before.

Wasn’t glancing. Not a bomb for sure but very clean. From the back angle you can see it wobble through Helis neck. When people get clipped chin up swinging they get hurt, timing getting hit like that and falling like that and being hurt like that, I just don’t believe heli is that talented…

Reminds me of when Silva clipped Forrest on ufc. Or when McGregor got Aldo. Seen a few in boxing but honestly can’t remember them.

[TheLeprechaun]

People seem to think helenius is the best actor in the world.... you cant act that shit, it dosent look like a big shot but it got him while swinging and was clean as a whistle.

Heli didnt take a dive, but he did fight reckless (although pushing back wilder was aplauded when fury did it, so heli having the same game plan s! hould also be aplauded, just not the same skill haha.).

It was an arm punch pushed to the face and helenius took the opportunity to go limp. It doesn't take an Oscar winning performance. Anyone could pull it off.

[Bard of Boxrec]

14/1 on Hills for AJ round 1 really shocked me, far too good to miss out on IMO.

AJ has been flat lately yes, but Helenius is awful at this point and Joshua will want to prove a point that he can do what Wilder did.

I also have round 2, with hedges on 3, 4 and 5, but I’d be surprised if it goes beyond that.

[Ruthless-RKO]

It's sa that prior to the Whyte drug fail, people forgot AJ was fighting this weekend.

A casual relative of mine was saying he hasn't seen anything about the fight in recent times, nothing on TV etc..

Ahh.. the power of DAZN.

[mickey1975]

Listen to the great Eddie Hearns latest IFL interview, the first five minutes. He sums up Twitter comments (in this context about Aj being hated).

[Ruthless-RKO]

[quickeyg]

THOUSANDS of tickets for sale - Joshua vs Helenius won't sell out.



Think I'm being stalked

[big lennox]

Totally agree with Chisora re PEDs. He also said in another interview that PEDS are either in your blood system or not, no excuses.

Yet, how many athletes, in all sports, that have failed these tests, always come up with an excuse.

[Gran Hermano]

J, it has 239 million subscribers.... we will see.

Do any of those 239 million know why Luke's so lacking in confidence about beating a 36 year old cage fighter, that he insisted on a rematch clause?

I doubt they are bothered. Tyson's nutritionist has assured everyone THE TRUTH will be shown as it played out. No doubt people on here and a minute percentage on Twitter will blame editing, etc, but 238.999999 million will be OK with it. Immaculate timing again by the big man. PR job and publicises the fight of the century.

Well if Tyson's nutritionist has assured us!

[The Gratest]

The perfect obedient lapdog.

[quickeyg]

6,000 TICKETS for sale?


2nd time he (aj) will not be pay per view.


Goes past 6 it could get interesting.


Hearn getting touchy on talksport.

[Finkel]

People seem to think helenius is the best actor in the world.... you cant act that shit, it dosent look like a big shot but it got him while swinging and was clean as a whistle.

Heli didnt take a dive, but he did fight reckless (although pushing back wilder was aplauded when fury did it, so heli having the same game plan should also be aplauded, just not the same skill haha.).

Nah, still looked very much like a dive to me.

Reckless doesn't do it justice. He was falling forward, leading with his face, while swinging wildly. I've never seen Helenius look so ragged.

And I don't think it was a big shot either. From the position Wilder's shoulder was in, moving backward, with next to no rotation or extension. He bopped him on the nose. And helenius hit the canvas looking like he'd been shot.

[jwfg]

People seem to think helenius is the best actor in the world.... you cant act that shit, it dosent look like a big shot but it got him while swinging and was clean as a whistle.

Heli didnt take a dive, but he did fight reckless (although pushing back wilder was aplauded when fury did it, so heli having the same game plan should also be aplauded, just not the same skill haha.).

100% agree gregregegg. He got caught my a punch he didn't see coming by a massive puncher and went down immediately. There wasn't time for him to think about it. He was hurt and in shock, definitely not a dive IMO. He'd have to be Lawrence Olivier to fake that sh1t.

[quickeyg]

lol Joshua didn't like Helenius staring him out "Have you got a problem with me? Either we're gonna fight now or we're gonna fight tomorrow, either way we're gonna fight."

[IrishGuy]

Helenius is more interesting then Whyte, whyte looks better on paper but you could envision that figure quite handy and AJ is in no danger. Helenius could get sparked in 1 but also way more variables, he is more live in this.

[Nightmare Roy]

People seem to think helenius is the best actor in the world.... you cant act that shit, it dosent look like a big shot but it got him while swinging and was clean as a whistle.

Heli didnt take a dive, but he did fight reckless (although pushing back wilder was aplauded when fury did it, so heli having the same game plan should also be aplauded, just not the same skill haha.).

100% agree gregregegg. He got caught my a punch he didn't see coming by a massive puncher and went down immediately. There wasn't time for him to think about it. He was hurt and in shock, definitely not a dive IMO. He'd have to be Lawrence Olivier to fake that sh1t.

If this is a dive then give that man an oscar. He was sparked!