Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:33
by Jimmy2025
mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:27
Bellew is going in Big Bosh's bad books.
Big Bosh should listen to Bellew, and what Dave said in the ring when he mentioned the trilogy, and counsel his son with compassion and commonsense.
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:35
by Coco
Kilburn wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:28
I’m on the Moses train but I’m not seeing the massacre for Allen that appears to be the majority view.
Define massacre? I see a long painful night for Allen where he will soak up a lot.
Those fights are more damaging that early blast outs.
I don't think it's a fight he fancies, but I'm sure if the money is right......
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:36
by Kilburn
If folk were saying Dubois v Allen then sure I’d be thinking god no, let’s not.
But is Moses really a guaranteed hiding?
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:41
by gregregegg
Just seeing the slowmo replays, didn’t really notice that last right hand that mainly landed chest (got a bit of head), fornicate they are lucky that wasn’t on the chin of KO’d falling fowards fisher. It was bad as is but could have been worse.
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:41
by mickey1975
I'd like the AJ fight. I'm not taking the piss, either.
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:42
by TheLeprechaun
It was obvious Fisher was a complete fraud. I tried to take him on with Babic but Babic was just too chinny. Unfortunately I just couldn't bet on Allen due to his history. I would have won money on Fishers demise if he had fought any other step up than Allen but how can you trust Allen. That said, fair play to him and once again the house referee gets the "A side" to take more of a drubbing than he should have. It was nice to see after he was letting Fisher away with clear low blow body shots. Marcus does his job well, that's why he's kept it for so long, knows what he should be doing in there... nights like this where it blows up on them are great to see. The corner having to throw in the towel
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
MasterG wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:14
Anyone in boxing must know Fisher wasnt going anywhere as a pro. I mean come on Boxrec posters who actually thought there was a fruitful future in the pro ranks for Fisher?
Allen is again, another limited boxers but far better than Fisher.
In all honesty I would love to see Dave in with Hughie Fury.
He started out very green, and performed well at the beginners level. Some guys keep improving, and eventually we find out their level.
Up until the first fight with Dave, we had no idea of Fisher's level.
I don't know mate , he looked stiff and wooden with his chin up in the air from start , alarm bells were ringing tbh .
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:45
by MasterG
mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:41
I'd like the AJ fight. I'm not taking the piss, either.
What is the height difference of the 2?
While it would be a good draw for boxing fans I still think AJ is better than Allen.
I still think JJ or Hughie is a better option
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:45
by rd350lc
mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:41
I'd like the AJ fight. I'm not taking the piss, either.
I don't see AJ or team entertaining that one bit .
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:47
by MasterG
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:42
It was obvious Fisher was a complete fraud. I tried to take him on with Babic but Babic was just too chinny. Unfortunately I just couldn't bet on Allen due to his history. I would have won money on Fishers demise if he had fought any other step up than Allen but how can you trust Allen. That said, fair play to him and once again the house referee gets the "A side" to take more of a drubbing than he should have. It was nice to see after he was letting Fisher away with clear low blow body shots. Marcus does his job well, that's why he's kept it for so long, knows what he should be doing in there... nights like this where it blows up on them are great to see. The corner having to throw in the towel
To be honest I did think Johnny would beat Allen tonight. That prediction was just on Allen's history.
But saying that, I knew that Fisher wasn't going anywhere
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:47
by KiwiRider
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:48
by Jimmy2025
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:42
It was obvious Fisher was a complete fraud. I tried to take him on with Babic but Babic was just too chinny. Unfortunately I just couldn't bet on Allen due to his history. I would have won money on Fishers demise if he had fought any other step up than Allen but how can you trust Allen. That said, fair play to him and once again the house referee gets the "A side" to take more of a drubbing than he should have. It was nice to see after he was letting Fisher away with clear low blow body shots. Marcus does his job well, that's why he's kept it for so long, knows what he should be doing in there... nights like this where it blows up on them are great to see. The corner having to throw in the towel
Fisher's not a fraud. He's a relatively inexperienced boxer with decent size and power who just so happens to be able to move loads of tickets. Nobody has said otherwise.
He shouldn't have taken the immediate rematch.
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:48
by rd350lc
Kilburn wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:36
If folk were saying Dubois v Allen then sure I’d be thinking god no, let’s not.
But is Moses really a guaranteed hiding?
He's completely untested, I think it's far too early to say with him but most seems to be totally sold on him .
I think Allen would be a good test for him .
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:42
It was obvious Fisher was a complete fraud. I tried to take him on with Babic but Babic was just too chinny. Unfortunately I just couldn't bet on Allen due to his history. I would have won money on Fishers demise if he had fought any other step up than Allen but how can you trust Allen. That said, fair play to him and once again the house referee gets the "A side" to take more of a drubbing than he should have. It was nice to see after he was letting Fisher away with clear low blow body shots. Marcus does his job well, that's why he's kept it for so long, knows what he should be doing in there... nights like this where it blows up on them are great to see. The corner having to throw in the towel
Fisher's not a fraud. He's a relatively inexperienced boxer with decent size and power who just so happens to be able to move loads of tickets. Nobody has said otherwise.
He shouldn't have taken the immediate rematch.
Inexperienced after 13 fights?
How many fights would he be experienced!
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:50
by rhino222
Put Dave in with Dillian Whyte again. Whyte is shot to bits but would be a nice earner for Dave.
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
MasterG wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:14
Anyone in boxing must know Fisher wasnt going anywhere as a pro. I mean come on Boxrec posters who actually thought there was a fruitful future in the pro ranks for Fisher?
Allen is again, another limited boxers but far better than Fisher.
In all honesty I would love to see Dave in with Hughie Fury.
He started out very green, and performed well at the beginners level. Some guys keep improving, and eventually we find out their level.
Up until the first fight with Dave, we had no idea of Fisher's level.
I don't know mate , he looked stiff and wooden with his chin up in the air from start , alarm bells were ringing tbh .
He seemed to have reasonable power, some stamina and a chin that could hold up. And let's face it, that can get you a fair way in the division as it sits now.
The last British HW title fight was at such a low level that I'd give Fisher a chance against either guy, and Dave Allen would have splattered both of them
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:53
by Coco
rhino222 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:50
Put Dave in with Dillian Whyte again. Whyte is shot to bits but would be a nice earner for Dave.
A decent fight
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:54
by JxhDel.
Event with nice stoppages, Allen smashed Fisher's hype right at the buzzer beater
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
Posted: 17 May 2025, 17:55
by keithmoonhangover
Allen vs Jake Paul.
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
He started out very green, and performed well at the beginners level. Some guys keep improving, and eventually we find out their level.
Up until the first fight with Dave, we had no idea of Fisher's level.
I don't know mate , he looked stiff and wooden with his chin up in the air from start , alarm bells were ringing tbh .
He seemed to have reasonable power, some stamina and a chin that could hold up. And let's face it, that can get you a fair way in the division as it sits now.
The last British HW title fight was at such a low level that I'd give Fisher a chance against either guy, and Dave Allen would have splattered both of them
But the British heavies have never been better. Dubois, Itauma, Wardley, Clark, AJ, Fury all in front of the British championship. Even Del and Whyte are still there. So that's 10 including Adelaye and TKV. You need something about you to go far with that lot. Johnny's biggest problem is he's not a natural in a fight.
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
I don't know mate , he looked stiff and wooden with his chin up in the air from start , alarm bells were ringing tbh .
He seemed to have reasonable power, some stamina and a chin that could hold up. And let's face it, that can get you a fair way in the division as it sits now.
The last British HW title fight was at such a low level that I'd give Fisher a chance against either guy, and Dave Allen would have splattered both of them
But the British heavies have never been better. Dubois, Itauma, Wardley, Clark, AJ, Fury all in front of the British championship. Even Del and Whyte are still there. So that's 10 including Adelaye and TKV. You need something about you to go far with that lot. Johnny's biggest problem is he's not a natural in a fight.
I think Adelaye or TKV are reasonable fights for Fisher after some confidence builders
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
He seemed to have reasonable power, some stamina and a chin that could hold up. And let's face it, that can get you a fair way in the division as it sits now.
The last British HW title fight was at such a low level that I'd give Fisher a chance against either guy, and Dave Allen would have splattered both of them
But the British heavies have never been better. Dubois, Itauma, Wardley, Clark, AJ, Fury all in front of the British championship. Even Del and Whyte are still there. So that's 10 including Adelaye and TKV. You need something about you to go far with that lot. Johnny's biggest problem is he's not a natural in a fight.
I think Adelaye or TKV are reasonable fights for Fisher after some confidence builders
Adelaye would fancy that I think.
Will Fisher be damaged goods and gun-shy now ?
Re: Round-by-Round: Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen II | DAZN - 17 May 2025
mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:10
But the British heavies have never been better. Dubois, Itauma, Wardley, Clark, AJ, Fury all in front of the British championship. Even Del and Whyte are still there. So that's 10 including Adelaye and TKV. You need something about you to go far with that lot. Johnny's biggest problem is he's not a natural in a fight.
I think Adelaye or TKV are reasonable fights for Fisher after some confidence builders
Adelaye would fancy that I think.
Will Fisher be damaged goods and gun-shy now ?
I wouldn't really expect Fisher to win, but he could, he's a big strong guy and Adelaye can be hurt.
But that will be the pot of gold at the end of the confidence builder rainbow for Hearns boy
