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Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 19:56
by tonyevs
Neri1983 wrote:Freiheit wrote:
Apparently this is the first time white gloves have been used in a heavyweigh title fight
Did they mean first time white gloves have been used in a heavyweight title fight in germany?
White gloves where used by Chris Byrd and Evander Holyfield in their 2002 Vacant IBF heavyweight title fight.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3859 ... 0ducks.jpg
But the gloves they used tonight sounded as if they stayed white

Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 19:58
by Wales
SuperSedgy wrote:At least Valuev seems like a smart and nice guy, am pleased he won. Hope he makes some money out of it, he's had to take a long hard road to get here.
Have to agree those first 38 fights against "who" were tough.... Mind you he's taken some stick because of his size.
Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 20:01
by Max Molyneux
Any interviews from anyone yet?
Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 20:03
by SuperSedgy
Wales wrote:SuperSedgy wrote:At least Valuev seems like a smart and nice guy, am pleased he won. Hope he makes some money out of it, he's had to take a long hard road to get here.
Have to agree those first 38 fights against "who" were tough.... Mind you he's taken some stick because of his size.
what I mean is he's been dragged around the world to be gawked at for years. He's done his time at the lower ranks and he finally got his chance and taken it. Well done, hope he does well.
Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 20:06
by Wales
agreed although he's never really fought out of europe in a meaninful fight, he's always been dubbed a freak show. couple of no brainers in korea and that it.
Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 20:08
by Freiheit
Max Molyneux wrote:Any interviews from anyone yet?
They interviews Valuev, Wladimir Klitschko, Ulli Wegner, Don King and some german celebs.
Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 20:09
by REAL_DEAL
sorry i scored it wrong 116-112 ruiz, but not bothered as middle rounds were close.
Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 20:09
by Wales
and the concensus was?
Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 20:13
by Freiheit
Wales wrote:and the concensus was?
Don King thourght Valuev won, so did the others (didnt bother to hear how the celebs scored it)
Posted: 18 Dec 2005, 05:05
by Raff The Frenchman
Posted: 18 Dec 2005, 07:52
by Dirk Kelly
Just read on Secondsout and it made me chuckle:
No word yet on whether Ruiz plans to file a lawsuit against the new champion for being too tall.

Posted: 18 Dec 2005, 08:02
by dbf
tonyevs wrote:Neri1983 wrote:Freiheit wrote:
Apparently this is the first time white gloves have been used in a heavyweigh title fight
Did they mean first time white gloves have been used in a heavyweight title fight in germany?
White gloves where used by Chris Byrd and Evander Holyfield in their 2002 Vacant IBF heavyweight title fight.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3859 ... 0ducks.jpg
But the gloves they used tonight sounded as if they stayed white

yep heres another one.

Posted: 18 Dec 2005, 11:14
by Neri
dopey wrote:Just read on Secondsout and it made me chuckle:
No word yet on whether Ruiz plans to file a lawsuit against the new champion for being too tall.

It isn't over yet.
Ruiz' attorney Anthony Cardinale said at the post-fight press conference that he would petition the WBA to review the fight and determine if a rematch is in order.

Posted: 18 Dec 2005, 11:40
by BoxBuzz
Posted: 18 Dec 2005, 13:19
by jamesmcdonnell
Freiheit wrote:Wales wrote:and the concensus was?
Don King thourght Valuev won, so did the others (didnt bother to hear how the celebs scored it)
Don would say that, he's happy as a pig in shite, as he knows Valuev can be easily hyped and he has a four fight deal on Valuev.
Posted: 18 Dec 2005, 13:53
by dve3333
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Freiheit wrote:Wales wrote:and the concensus was?
Don King thourght Valuev won, so did the others (didnt bother to hear how the celebs scored it)
Don would say that, he's happy as a pig in shite, as he knows Valuev can be easily hyped and he has a four fight deal on Valuev.
Anyne else think it was a bit fishy that Don said
before the fight he had future options on Valuev
Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 04:59
by BubiScholz
Freiheit wrote:Norman Stone is fighting one of Valuev corner people, security have to go between them.
this was the most exciting scene of the whole fight.
BTW I scored a draw, but for me it was sure that Nico can´t lose the fight when both promoters wanted him to win......

Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 05:19
by shot
BubiScholz wrote:Freiheit wrote:Norman Stone is fighting one of Valuev corner people, security have to go between them.
this was the most exciting scene of the whole fight.
BTW I scored a draw, but for me it was sure that Nico can´t lose the fight when both promoters wanted him to win......

Yes i also had it 114-114 but some of the rounds could have gone either way.
Yes Don King seemed strangely pleased that his fighter just lost. I guess he had long ago realized that having Valuev for a few fights is worth a lot more $ than Ruiz ever could bring in.
Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 05:38
by Max Molyneux
Did Ruiz cut Valuev above the left eye too? BBC think he picked off Valuev Easily and said people in the crowd thought Ruiz won.
True that Don could hype Valuev up though only in America.
Even Valuev couldn't resist the Ruiz clinch even though he was 80 odd pound heavier from the pics!

Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 06:00
by jamesmcdonnell
shot wrote:BubiScholz wrote:Freiheit wrote:Norman Stone is fighting one of Valuev corner people, security have to go between them.
this was the most exciting scene of the whole fight.
BTW I scored a draw, but for me it was sure that Nico can´t lose the fight when both promoters wanted him to win......

Yes i also had it 114-114 but some of the rounds could have gone either way.
Yes Don King seemed strangely pleased that his fighter just lost. I guess he had long ago realized that having Valuev for a few fights is worth a lot more $ than Ruiz ever could bring in.
Don has been trying to get rid of Ruiz ever since he lost to Jones Jr.
Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 06:14
by MightyWarrior
The crowd certainly didn't buy the decision, he was roundly booed. Hard to tell who won it really - both were equaly unimpressive.
Ruiz was never going to win on points - it all had the feeling of a set up, which the crowd picked up on straight away.
Wlad was commentating and must really fancy his chances of picking up an easy title.
Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 06:26
by knockout
You can see from the press in the UK that Valuev gets column inches....
He was in most tabloids on friday/Saturday with big photograph too... that is pretty rare...
I think he has a big picture in the metro too today......
Good luck to him.....
Ruiz has done well at earned a lot of money being extremely average.... so why cannot someone else
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Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 06:32
by jamesmcdonnell
MightyWarrior wrote:The crowd certainly didn't buy the decision, he was roundly booed. Hard to tell who won it really - both were equaly unimpressive.
Ruiz was never going to win on points - it all had the feeling of a set up, which the crowd picked up on straight away.
Wlad was commentating and must really fancy his chances of picking up an easy title.
Poor old Ruiz, what a patsy! He's calling for Don King to get him a rematch, and King is already running around waving the Russian flag. He blatantly wanted rid of Ruiz, and agreeing to fight Valuev on what amounts to home turf was an obvious statement of that.
Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 06:44
by Max Molyneux
http://www.fightnews.com/1037.htm
Ruiz' attorney Anthony Cardinale said at the post-fight press conference that he would petition the WBA to review the fight and determine if a rematch is in order.
He seems to be able to come back though so what if it happens!
How did Ruiz's face get bruised that bad if Valuev hardly did anything! Valuev has some marks too but not as much as Ruiz.
Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 06:49
by jamesmcdonnell
The WBA aren't going to grant a rematch. Hell, they didn't grant a rematch to Reid when he was utterly shafted by Tillerman in the Ottke fight, and that was a very controversial fight.
Ruiz can forget it, Don King won't be interested in him until Valuev loses and by then he will probably have more heavyweights.