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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 05:14
by My2Sense
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
(In the voice of Buffer) 15 Rounds At 135lbs...Carlos Ortiz vs. Lou Ambers!
Ortiz's greater power carries him to a decision in an otherwise evenly matched fight.
Next up:
A Night of Lightweight Action
Willie Ritchie vs. Julio Cesar Chavez
Tony Canzoneri vs. Ike Williams
Barney Ross vs. Joe Gans
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 11:31
by HomicideHenry
Chavez WUD, Canzoneri WUD, Gans WSD
Muhammad Ali vs John L. Gardner, 1979, 15 rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 11:59
by BoxBuzz
HomicideHenry wrote:Chavez WUD, Canzoneri WUD, Gans WSD
Muhammad Ali vs John L. Gardner, 1979, 15 rounds
Here's how I see this one.
If Gardner steps in because Neon Leon loses his tooth and has to delay, and Ali decides to fight to take advantage of his last serious training camp in late 78, I think he squeaks out a close UD.
If it's 1980 and Holmes bails because he slips on the soap in his shower and breaks his jock and Ali wants to take a fight anyway on that day, I think he loses a squeaker (or the judges save him with a gift win or draw) but he makes it through the fight.
1979? In the wake of the second Leon fight? Maybe the same as above.
Azumah Nelson VS Ken Buchanan Prime
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 07 Nov 2009, 13:17
by mhagler91490
BoxBuzz wrote:HomicideHenry wrote:Chavez WUD, Canzoneri WUD, Gans WSD
Muhammad Ali vs John L. Gardner, 1979, 15 rounds
Here's how I see this one.
If Gardner steps in because Neon Leon loses his tooth and has to delay, and Ali decides to fight to take advantage of his last serious training camp in late 78, I think he squeaks out a close UD.
If it's 1980 and Holmes bails because he slips on the soap in his shower and breaks his jock and Ali wants to take a fight anyway on that day, I think he loses a squeaker (or the judges save him with a gift win or draw) but he makes it through the fight.
1979? In the wake of the second Leon fight? Maybe the same as above.
Azumah Nelson VS Ken Buchanan Prime
Buchanan has a slight edge through the first half of the fight but Nelson comes back over the second half and pounds out a decision.
Simon Brown vs Ike Quartey
12 rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 08 Nov 2009, 11:42
by allworld80
Bazooka takes a close one behind that relentless jab and pressure. Quartay MD.
Hector Camacho vs Shane Mosley @ 135
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 08 Nov 2009, 12:00
by Goodnight, Irene
Excellent contest. People forget what a terrific Lightweight Camacho was. He was great there, no matter what happened later in his career.
Two speed demons. I favour the harder puncher, who lands the more telling blows. Mosley, close UD. Some electric exchanges
12 Rounds --- Try this on for size --- Terry Norris vs. Shane Mosley At 154...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 09 Nov 2009, 15:15
by HomicideHenry
Shane Mosely UD....
Mitch Green vs Dan Hodge, 10 rounds
Hatchetman Sheppard vs Bob Murphy, 12 rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 18 Nov 2009, 03:06
by allworld80
Blood Green by late stoppage
Murphy by close decision
Manny Pacquiao vs Pernell Whitaker @ 140
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 18 Nov 2009, 04:00
by hitman09
Very like how I expect a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight to go, with Pac having trouble finding him for the first few rounds, before catching up with him around the 6th, but I expect Whitaker to be able to take what Pac throws, and edge out a split decision.
Manny Pacquiao vs Henry Armstrong, 15rds at WW
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 22 Nov 2009, 20:28
by allworld80
Armstrong's boxing vs Pacquiao's speed and athletic gifts.....Pacquiao by a close decision, with both fighters hitting the deck at some point.
Alexis Arguello vs Hector Camacho @ 135
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 03 Dec 2009, 17:05
by allworld80
Bump
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 07:47
by Datsue
Camacho befuddles AA (who didn't like quick guys) early with speed & odd angles, but takes a thumping straight right counter sometime about the sixth that convinces him that back-pedaling & showboating are safer than trying to mount any more attacks.
Arguello by UD, something like 9-6, with Camacho getting kudos for taking his lumps in the second half of the bout.
Nino Valdez vs Razor Ruddock, primes, ten rounds. No three-knockdown rule.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 21 Dec 2009, 09:56
by Goodnight, Irene
Ruddock stops him in eight. Both men get off the deck.
George Foreman (1991) vs. Jerry Quarry (1969). Twelve rounds...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Dec 2009, 00:52
by allworld80
The brave Quarry make George earn it over 12 rounds. A couple of knockdowns along the way the difference. Foreman UD.
Gene Tunney vs Archie Moore @ 175
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Dec 2009, 09:38
by Goodnight, Irene
Most unthinkingly rate Moore the number-two Light-Heavy of all-time. Tunney has that spot for mine, & I'm in the minority in thinking he bests Moore on points. Scuh a perfect technician, & so well-prepped (& equipped) to handle all comers. He also had a teak-tough chin --- critical, against a fighter like Moore. Tunney on points.
Prime-to-prime --- Gerry Cooney & Tim Witherspoon over twelve...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 01:15
by allworld80
Love the underrated Witherspoon in a close one here. Cooney gasses late, and spoon sweeps the final four rounds to take a MD.
Junior FW dust up...
Jeff Fenech vs Juan Manuel Lopez 12 RDS
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 06:28
by alexpaterson
What a fight
I think Fenech would be able to take Juanma's shots and get through with his own not giving Juanma enough time to box and Fenech just swarming him taking a UD or Late Stoppage but would take a lot of big shots of Juanma
Fenech TKO 10
Next up
12 rounds of WW action
Shane Mosley vs Thomas Hearns
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 10:45
by Goodnight, Irene
"A jab stops speed," said a tall, rangy Welter who was essentially a poor man's Hearns. His name was Vernon Forrest, & what he couldn't quite finish, Hearns does, stopping a woozy Mosley along the ropes in eight rounds, having won five of the seven completed stanzas. A horrible match-up for Mosley, truly.
12 Rounds...Cleveland Williams & Oscar Bonavena, peak-for-peak...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 11:58
by Peter Yemma
A Juiced Tommy Morrison (lets say the night he decisioned Foreman)
against Vladimir Klitschko on the night of whatever you consider his best performance (in my opinion his battering of Chagaev, a shame to the heavyweight throne.) He cut off the ring well, and actually used his size to pressure a hurt opponent (heavyweights imposing size?! in 09 !? actually trying to finish an opponent when you're 245, 6' 7" and can PUNCH
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And Morrison vs Arreola
(pick a night, let's hope they're in shape.)
Klitschko doesn't get hit easily by Morrison early and ends up landing the jab. Morrison is in the fight, but is eventually hit with a right hand coming in and goes down. Morrison gets up and remains on his feet for the impending, cautious big man finishing that gives manny steward wood.
Ref steps in to protect an out on his feet morrison in the tenth. Styles make fights. Vlad is a huge, skilled boxer with a hard jab and power who fights at a distance... a nightmare for a shortish thunder hooker with a spotty chin.
Morrison and Arreola both go down in a wild one. Morrison wins an entertaining but sizable UD after both guys gas the fornicate out from bombing on eachother.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 17:01
by Goodnight, Irene
The way it works, Peter, is like this...
One member posts a match-up, without a prediction, & the next member projects the result (usually, fairly briefly). After doing so, they list a match of their own at the base of their post, & wait for the next person to come along --- & down the line it goes.
The next match, then, is Williams-Bonavena.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 28 Dec 2009, 19:01
by Goodnight, Irene
OK, I'll take that one. Williams floors Bonavena twice, gets off the deck once himself, & stops his man in eight rough-house rounds.
Arguello-Sanchez over fifteen at Feather...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 06 Jan 2010, 17:09
by allworld80
Beautiful matchup, one that sees Sanchez finishing late, as he was known to do, and Arguello being finished late, something Pryor bestowed upon him twice. Sanchez TKO 14 after an all timer.
Bob Foster vs Bernard Hopkins in a 12 round LHW affair
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 08:39
by Goodnight, Irene
Hideously tough match-up to imagine. Hopkins was older & slower at the weight. It's unthinkable, I know, but I opine Foster gets him out of there.
12 Rounds --- Jeff Fenech vs. Juan Manuel Marquez at Feather...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 15:42
by alexpaterson
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Hideously tough match-up to imagine. Hopkins was older & slower at the weight. It's unthinkable, I know, but I opine Foster gets him out of there.
12 Rounds --- Jeff Fenech vs. Juan Manuel Marquez at Feather...
Marquez catches Fenech coming in and continually does this throughout the fight not letting Fenech get the big combo's in and not letting him plant his feet. Wide UD for Marquez
12 rounds Bantamweight
Lionel Rose vs Daniel Zaragoza
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 17:41
by mhagler91490
alexpaterson wrote:Goodnight, Irene wrote:Hideously tough match-up to imagine. Hopkins was older & slower at the weight. It's unthinkable, I know, but I opine Foster gets him out of there.
12 Rounds --- Jeff Fenech vs. Juan Manuel Marquez at Feather...
Marquez catches Fenech coming in and continually does this throughout the fight not letting Fenech get the big combo's in and not letting him plant his feet. Wide UD for Marquez
12 rounds Bantamweight
Lionel Rose vs Daniel Zaragoza
The pace of this fight would of been fast but I don't see Zaragoza being able to beat Rose at range and I think that is where this fight would of taken place through the whole fight.
Rose by close ud.
Lionel Rose vs Khaokor Galaxy
15 rounds
bantamweight