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big lennox wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:40

BigDoofus wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:31

big lennox wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:03


Do you not post daily about Joshua and his fashion shows? A very rich cake you are eating..although a good diversion tactic from your hero's perceived shortcomings.

The difference was that Joshua had no intention of fighting.
I don’t know about cake but, if you had anything about you, you should be taking a huge slice of humble pie after the garbage you’ve been posting in the past 4 months.

Big Doofus, you seem to be quite an unpleasant type: your posts are full of snipey, superior comments, and you never ever address any questions e.g. what are your thoughts on Fury failing a PED test? Silence.

I don't feel there is any humble pie to eat. Fury has had his bluff called and been exposed as anything but a spartan warrior.

Please don't reply to this as I don't think, on here at least, you are worth engaging with.

If I had spent 4 months claiming he would never fail a drug test, I would feel an idiot when he did.
You on the other hand expect people to forget the nonsense you type and have the cheek to accuse people of “superior comments”.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:45

The Gratest wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:36

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:31 Will the IBF title be on the line?

I assumed it would be, what's the hold up with that, Hrgovic?

Fury said in the past that he wouldn't fight for the IBF because he wouldn't pay the sanctioning fee.

So in these cases, it would still be at stake for Usyk. If Firy was to win, the IBF would be vacant.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:45

The Gratest wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:36

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:31 Will the IBF title be on the line?

I assumed it would be, what's the hold up with that, Hrgovic?

Fury said in the past that he wouldn't fight for the IBF because he wouldn't pay the sanctioning fee.

That’ll be the case then, he’s never lied before.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:45

The Gratest wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:36

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 09:31 Will the IBF title be on the line?

I assumed it would be, what's the hold up with that, Hrgovic?

Fury said in the past that he wouldn't fight for the IBF because he wouldn't pay the sanctioning fee.

Ah, Ok

So it's undisputed for Usyk only?

I'd imagine Fury would fight for the ibf as part of the undisputed then drop it straight away if he won.

That would have a greater impact than not fighting for it in the first place

Bellew – a former world cruiserweight champion and one-time Usyk opponent – showed his appreciation.

“You can’t not respect this man! Sells himself and his 3 out of 4 belts well short! He does this [because] he wants to be the best and also help his country.”

JackSprocket wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 10:33 So it's undisputed for Usyk only?

I think it will play out that way.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 04:49

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 04:04I think it’s quite clear who’s called who’s bluff.

The learned people on this forum were urging Fury to sign for 50/50. How much extra money could he earn from ignoring the Forum “experts”?

The claim: Forumites said Fury couldn't hardball a larger cut.

The truth: Many of us said 50:50 was very fair, and if Fury deviated too far from that it would suggest he was looking for a way out.

Has any other world champion ever taken 30%? Because I've followed boxing for 30 years and it feels unprecedented to me.

UFC has plenty of its own problems, but I'm closer than ever to switching. If boxing doesn't right itself I can see myself gone in a few years' time. So naturally I'd like Usyk to win.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 07:43

Frostieballs wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 07:34

BigDoofus wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 07:26
To be fair there has been a handful of posters who have constantly claimed that Fury is too scared to fight, a couple of them almost daily. These are not balanced people.

I’m not one of them, but they could argue he is scared of the fight but has been backed into it.

I’m sure they will continue to. Joshua’s team stopped returning calls but they’ve convinced themselves he “really wanted it”.

Where did Joshua come into my post??

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 11:49

BigDoofus wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 04:49

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 04:04I think it’s quite clear who’s called who’s bluff.

The learned people on this forum were urging Fury to sign for 50/50. How much extra money could he earn from ignoring the Forum “experts”?

The claim: Forumites said Fury couldn't hardball a larger cut.

The truth: Many of us said 50:50 was very fair, and if Fury deviated too far from that it would suggest he was looking for a way out.

Has any other world champion ever taken 30%? Because I've followed boxing for 30 years and it feels unprecedented to me.

UFC has plenty of its own problems, but I'm closer than ever to switching. If boxing doesn't right itself I can see myself gone in a few years' time. So naturally I'd like Usyk to win.

Canelo as the challenger got more. Tyson got more than Bruno. There are plenty of examples over the years.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 11:57

Grilling Machine wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 11:49

BigDoofus wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 04:49 The learned people on this forum were urging Fury to sign for 50/50. How much extra money could he earn from ignoring the Forum “experts”?

The claim: Forumites said Fury couldn't hardball a larger cut.

The truth: Many of us said 50:50 was very fair, and if Fury deviated too far from that it would suggest he was looking for a way out.

Has any other world champion ever taken 30%? Because I've followed boxing for 30 years and it feels unprecedented to me.

UFC has plenty of its own problems, but I'm closer than ever to switching. If boxing doesn't right itself I can see myself gone in a few years' time. So naturally I'd like Usyk to win.

Canelo as the challenger got more. Tyson got more than Bruno. There are plenty of examples over the years.

With those examples you could justifiably argue they were merely holders of 1 of the main 3 sanctioning bodies world title belts. In this case Usyk is holding 3 to Fury`s 1 ... and won the title from a highly regarded champion (not mentioning a champion Fury has keenly avoided).

Usyk deserves huge respect as a fighter and as a man. I have no doubt he agreed to such insulting terms as a way of keeping Ukraine`s ongoing troubles on the front page so they continue to receive support.
Fury has taken advantage of this like the weasel he is.

tonyevs wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 12:42 Fury has taken advantage of this like the weasel he is.

You forgot the words, 'lying drugs cheat'.

I have no doubt he is aware that 30% of Fury money is a lot more than 80% of Dubois money.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:07

tonyevs wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 12:42 Fury has taken advantage of this like the weasel he is.

You forgot the words, 'lying drugs cheat'.

So did you when mentioning Canelo. And rapist for Mike Tyson. If you’re going to be repetitive at least be consistent.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:09 I have no doubt he is aware that 30% of Fury money is a lot more than 80% of Dubois money.

Sounds like it would have been Hgovic in Saudi first because Dubois is still recovering from injury. I am sure that money would be more than 30% of the Fury fight.

These negotiations have not been a great look for Fury. It looks like, at best, he was trying to take advantage of Uysk's desire to fight(and the situation back home) to maximise his own earnings, or at worst, was trying to duck out, but had his bluff called.

That said, I am very glad that the fight appears to be on.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:09I have no doubt he is aware that 30% of Fury money is a lot more than 80% of Dubois money.

And 50% against Joshua is likely worth more to Fury than 70% here, so you'd agree your point doesn't always track with your own opinion. There have been lots of cases of world champs taking less than half, as Keith says, but who else has taken 30%?

To be clear, that's anyone with the WBA or WBC.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:11

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:07

tonyevs wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 12:42 Fury has taken advantage of this like the weasel he is.

You forgot the words, 'lying drugs cheat'.

So did you when mentioning Canelo. And rapist for Mike Tyson. If you’re going to be repetitive at least be consistent.

I frequently call Mike Tyson a rapist and Canelo a drugs cheat, but I don't feel the need to prefix every post with it. I can't support any drug cheat and I don't understand how you can. PED cheats should have life bans.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:45

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:11

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:07

You forgot the words, 'lying drugs cheat'.

So did you when mentioning Canelo. And rapist for Mike Tyson. If you’re going to be repetitive at least be consistent.

I frequently call Mike Tyson a rapist and Canelo a drugs cheat, but I don't feel the need to prefix every post with it. I can't support any drug cheat and I don't understand how you can. PED cheats should have life bans.

The fact that this thread has nothing to do with them as well.

“Usyk needs to accept 80/20 or I’m fighting Carlos Takam at a Bolton leisure centre for 400k”

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:47

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:45

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:11
So did you when mentioning Canelo. And rapist for Mike Tyson. If you’re going to be repetitive at least be consistent.

I frequently call Mike Tyson a rapist and Canelo a drugs cheat, but I don't feel the need to prefix every post with it. I can't support any drug cheat and I don't understand how you can. PED cheats should have life bans.

The fact that this thread has nothing to do with them as well.

He had literally just mentioned them. EVERYONE is aware of what happened, there is no need for a prefix here every day. It's a hardcore forum, we know. Its not going to change anyone's opinion of Fury, either.

Dioufy wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:52 “Usyk needs to accept 80/20 or I’m fighting Carlos Takam at a Bolton leisure centre for 400k”

"If he's a true fighting man then Usyk needs to fight for free, on free TV, just like any true fighty fighting man would! Now where's my Versace slippers?"

mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:56

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:47

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Mar 2023, 13:45

I frequently call Mike Tyson a rapist and Canelo a drugs cheat, but I don't feel the need to prefix every post with it. I can't support any drug cheat and I don't understand how you can. PED cheats should have life bans.

The fact that this thread has nothing to do with them as well.

He had literally just mentioned them. EVERYONE is aware of what happened, there is no need for a prefix here every day. It's a hardcore forum, we know. Its not going to change anyone's opinion of Fury, either.

Why do you support him even though he is a proven PED cheat?