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Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2010, 13:08
by computerrank
MatthewS wrote:what are the biggest recorded fights that have taken place on an August 13th?
This is a full service house ...
order descending by pre-bout rating of lower rated opponent
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| date | division | name_a | name_b | r_a_0 | r_b_0 |
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| 1937-08-13 | Middleweight | Corbett III | Conn | 1456.98322861055 | 1700.28471049994 |
| 1942-08-13 | | Zivic | Young | 1016.00803206251 | 1398.88756747066 |
| 1983-08-13 | Welterweight | McCrory | Jones | 785.306518534489 | 770.078328973875 |
| 1958-08-13 | Welterweight | Ortega | Crawford | 782.061983386485 | 754.131198265539 |
| 1969-08-13 | Light Welterweight | Arcari | Albornoz | 972.899336737941 | 733.042056030789 |
| 1964-08-13 | Light Welterweight | Armstead | Molina | 573.327593685612 | 612.583547615952 |
| 1942-08-13 | | Montgomery | Ruffin | 1715.90287201925 | 539.605788579653 |
| 1929-08-13 | | Hawkins | Godfrey | 536.857885684749 | 862.890846481704 |
| 1977-08-13 | Middleweight | Jacopucci | Romersi | 594.436205429197 | 534.643134804684 |
| 1960-08-13 | Light Middleweight | Leahy | St Louis | 754.202076650463 | 522.514296487763 |
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Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 01 May 2010, 13:10
by m1kee50
computerrank wrote:MatthewS wrote:what are the biggest recorded fights that have taken place on an August 13th?
This is a full service house ...
tyvm
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 04 May 2010, 17:21
by computerrank
As the all-time ratings are based on the annual ratings we have to wait until end of 2010.
But it looks like Mayweather will collect another 100 to 130 points for this.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 06 May 2010, 14:06
by bungle
Only this website would have a boxer in Shane Mosely who just got dominated in a fight, and had not fought since January 2009, vault BACK IN to their top 10 pound for pound list. Wasn't on the list, got dominated, is now in the top 10. Don't care if it's done by computer. Stupid.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 06 May 2010, 17:07
by computerrank
Before Mosley got inactive he had 1218 points and was #4 p4p behind Pacquiao, Hopkins and Mayweather.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 11 May 2010, 09:42
by jujigatame
Just curious, what is Sergei Dzinziruk's point total now after a year and a half of inactivity? He makes his comeback on Friday against Daniel Dawson, who's also been inactive for over a year.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 11 May 2010, 10:51
by computerrank
jujigatame wrote:Just curious, what is Sergei Dzinziruk's point total now after a year and a half of inactivity? He makes his comeback on Friday against Daniel Dawson, who's also been inactive for over a year.
Dzinziruk down to 240 points.
Dawson down to 97 points.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 25 May 2010, 23:31
by morehouse
Hey, while I don't have the time to read all 40 pages of this, I did skim through a while and didn't find anyone asking this question. Sorry if it has already been answered.
How is it decided what division an all-time fighter is ranked in? Sugar Ray Robinson is possibly most well known as a welterweight, for example. He is listed at middleweight though. Just wondering what goes into this process.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 26 May 2010, 00:17
by m1kee50
morehouse wrote:Hey, while I don't have the time to read all 40 pages of this, I did skim through a while and didn't find anyone asking this question. Sorry if it has already been answered.
How is it decided what division an all-time fighter is ranked in? Sugar Ray Robinson is possibly most well known as a welterweight, for example. He is listed at middleweight though. Just wondering what goes into this process.
AFAIK its the division they earn most points in.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 11:37
by JCS
Hopkins rating...
I think he got hit with a quality performance penalty recently.. though shouldn't he be closer to 1250 as opposed to where he is now?
Last I knew, you were multiplying the best opp in the past 18 months by 4.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 10 Jun 2010, 16:37
by computerrank
JCS wrote:Hopkins rating...
I think he got hit with a quality performance penalty recently.. though shouldn't he be closer to 1250 as opposed to where he is now?
Last I knew, you were multiplying the best opp in the past 18 months by 4.
The conditions are a bit more complex:
1. In a bout a higher rated winner can only win points against an opponent rated higher than 25% of the winners points - this is the factor 4, you mention.
2. A boxer loses points after a period of 18 months, after
- neither fighting an opponent within a rating range of 50% to 200% of his own rating
- nor winning or achieve a close result against an opponent with a higher rating than himself
Chris Norrad
Posted: 15 Jun 2010, 22:34
by Ric
It looks a bit odd to me, when reviewing the
Canadian cruiserweight rankings, that a guy like Chris Norrad (5-0-0) is rated below two guys with with 1-0 records (Ryan Ford and Taylor Bull)--even after clicking those two boxers' opponents' records. Something doesn't quite seem right about that.
Re: Chris Norrad
Posted: 16 Jun 2010, 02:50
by computerrank
Ric wrote:It looks a bit odd to me, when reviewing the
Canadian cruiserweight rankings, that a guy like Chris Norrad (5-0-0) is rated below two guys with with 1-0 records (Ryan Ford and Taylor Bull)--even after clicking those two boxers' opponents' records. Something doesn't quite seem right about that.
I will have a look ...
so:
Norrat 5 - 0 stepped up from 2 to 9 points by SD over Francis (before 5 points and 3 wins)
Bull 1-0 stepped up from 0 tp 11 points by TKO over Mein (before 5 points and 1 win)
Ford stepped up from 0 to 11 points by MD over Lewis (before 7 points and 17 wins)
Regarding Norrat and Bull, the SD over an opponent with 5 points and 3 wins counts less than a TKO over 5 points and 1 win.
Regarding Bull and Ford, the MD over an opponent with 5 points and 1 win counts the same as a MD over 7 points and 17 wins.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 18 Jun 2010, 23:25
by generic screen name
I have to admit , the watchlist = Pretty awesome!
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 01:29
by m1kee50
now we have access to the ratings per fight - is there any simple way they can be converted into a graph showing the boxers rating as it changes? Other than typing it in oneself. Would be nice to be able to compare the career arc as it were of two or more fighters.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 12:00
by computerrank
MatthewS wrote:now we have access to the ratings per fight - is there any simple way they can be converted into a graph showing the boxers rating as it changes? Other than typing it in oneself. Would be nice to be able to compare the career arc as it were of two or more fighters.
In the boxer's bout list just select the button right of the graphics icon in the bouts parameter block - and you will see the ratings development as graphics ...
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 02:09
by m1kee50
computerrank wrote:MatthewS wrote:now we have access to the ratings per fight - is there any simple way they can be converted into a graph showing the boxers rating as it changes? Other than typing it in oneself. Would be nice to be able to compare the career arc as it were of two or more fighters.
In the boxer's bout list just select the button right of the graphics icon in the bouts parameter block - and you will see the ratings development as graphics ...
I meant a whole-career line graph but tyvm mate.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 16 Jul 2010, 23:29
by Ric
I don't quite understand how a 15-4-8
Rush Dalma is the #10 All-Time Bantamweight.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 17 Jul 2010, 07:07
by computerrank
Ric wrote:I don't quite understand how a 15-4-8
Rush Dalma is the #10 All-Time Bantamweight.
I found an all time rating trace from March containing the annual marks:
remarks: all time rating = (sum of 67 / annual ranks) + (sum of 67 / (rank annual best defeated opponents - 1)) + 1/7 of career top rating
1940: #5 = 13 points (sum 13 points), best win over #5 = 16 points (sum 16 points), top career rating 382 = 53 points => 83 points
1941: #3 = 23 points (sum 35 points), best win over #1 or #2 = 66 points (sum 82 points), top career rating 482 = 68 points => 185 points
1942: #2 = 33 points (sum 68 points), best win over #1 or #2 = 66 points (sum 148 points), top carerr rating 547 = 77 points => 293 points
1943: #2 = 33 points (sum 101 points), best win over #1 or #2 = 66 points (sum 214 points), top career rating 763 = 107 points => 422 points
1944: #1 = 66 points (sum 167 points), best win over #3 = 33 points (sum 248 points), top career rating 834 = 119 points => 534 points
1945: #1 = 66 points (sum 233 points), best win over >#10 = 0 points (sum 248 points), top career rating 834 = 119 points => 600 points
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 18 Jul 2010, 14:09
by computerrank
Cobwebcat wrote:Shouldn't Bradley be a Welter now?
It was a temporarily move only, I think.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 03 Aug 2010, 07:55
by greg
..quick question... do you guys store only the CURRENT ratings or is there ANY way to get access to the previous files, let's say to find out how this or that boxer was rated a year ago or so? Thank you...
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 03 Aug 2010, 11:54
by computerrank
greg wrote:..quick question... do you guys store only the CURRENT ratings or is there ANY way to get access to the previous files, let's say to find out how this or that boxer was rated a year ago or so? Thank you...
You can find the pre-bout and after-bout ratings for every boxer in the boxer's bout list.
You will have to check the option
ratings on in the
bouts section of the
bout list, first.
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 06:32
by greg
computerrank wrote:greg wrote:..quick question... do you guys store only the CURRENT ratings or is there ANY way to get access to the previous files, let's say to find out how this or that boxer was rated a year ago or so? Thank you...
You can find the pre-bout and after-bout ratings for every boxer in the boxer's bout list.
You will have to check the option
ratings on in the
bouts section of the
bout list, first.
I apologize for my ignorance but WHERE IS the
bout list? Thank you...
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 07:37
by computerrank
greg wrote:computerrank wrote:greg wrote:..quick question... do you guys store only the CURRENT ratings or is there ANY way to get access to the previous files, let's say to find out how this or that boxer was rated a year ago or so? Thank you...
You can find the pre-bout and after-bout ratings for every boxer in the boxer's bout list.
You will have to check the option
ratings on in the
bouts section of the
bout list, first.
I apologize for my ignorance but WHERE IS the
bout list? Thank you...
... click to a boxer and you will see it ...
for example Wladimir Klitschko:
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings
Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 17:04
by greg
computerrank wrote:greg wrote:computerrank wrote:
You can find the pre-bout and after-bout ratings for every boxer in the boxer's bout list.
You will have to check the option ratings on in the bouts section of the bout list, first.
I apologize for my ignorance but WHERE IS the
bout list? Thank you...
... click to a boxer and you will see it ...
for example Wladimir Klitschko:
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
... thanks a lot...
cool feature... numbers started to make more sense to me now....