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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 11 Jan 2010, 19:36
by Goodnight, Irene
Galaxy MD15 Rose, IMO.
Naseem Hamed & Diego Corrales in a 12-rounder at Jr. Lightweight, circa-2000?
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 11 Jan 2010, 19:46
by Idisagree
Hammed without a doubt had the power to stop Corrales imo, but I think Corrales size advantage would’ve been too much for Hammed. Corrales would’ve stop Hammed in around 7 or 8 rounds. Hammed weird style would not save him from Corrales power.
Don't know if it have been done before but here it go:
Carlos Ortiz vs Floyd Mayweather at 135?
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 11 Jan 2010, 23:29
by Goodnight, Irene
IMO, Ortiz on a Split Decision, in a fight Mayweather may've won, were it not for his hands, which often let him down at this weight.
140lb. Double-Header:
Pryor vs. Chavez.
Benitez vs. Tszyu.
Each 12 Rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 01:21
by Goodnight, Irene
No takers?
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 10:45
by Counter-puncher
Goodnight, Irene wrote:IMO, Ortiz on a Split Decision, in a fight Mayweather may've won, were it not for his hands, which often let him down at this weight.
140lb. Double-Header:
Pryor vs. Chavez.
Benitez vs. Tszyu.
Each 12 Rounds
Pryor just- just- outworks JCC on the basis of superior physicality, after 12 rounds of simply ferocious give and take. Split Decision, all kinds of punch records broken, and neither man is ever the same again afterwards.
Benitez outboxes KT, for my money, Wilfred just doesn't fit the profile of the kind of fighter who walks into KT's cleverly-set traps. Wilfred the better technician on the outside and the inside, and can use shoeshine flurries and lateral slides to offset KT's heavier hands, though he may well hit the deck at some point.
(obviously the above comes with the caveat that it's a trained and motivated benitez)
ummm, next.
John Conteh - Antonio Tarver at 175lbs
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 16 Jan 2010, 11:35
by allworld80
I favor a prime Tarver here. Antonio's prime mostly consisted of whipping Jones twice, but I always felt he had underrated skill and was very good defensively. Tarver by a comfortable UD.
Carlos Ortiz vs Mosley @ 135
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 16 Jan 2010, 17:28
by mhagler91490
Ortiz jabs his way to victory over an aggressive Mosley, winning a close UD.
Shane Mosley vs Kid Chocolate
15 rounds
lightweight
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 22:45
by Goodnight, Irene
Chocolate close UD.
Curve ball ahead...
2001...Fernando Vargas & Kostya Tszyu at 154lbs...well?
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 19 Jan 2010, 16:47
by Arbachakov
Jesus christ, i've read it all now.Someone picking tarver over the light heavy Napoles.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 19 Jan 2010, 21:14
by Idisagree
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Chocolate close UD.
Curve ball ahead...
2001...Fernando Vargas & Kostya Tszyu at 154lbs...well?
I think Kostya best weight was 140, his size would not help him at 147 or 154. Vargas totally destroys Kostya at 154. Vargas KO 5
Hector Camacho vs Eusebio Pedroza at 130
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 21 Jan 2010, 02:00
by Goodnight, Irene
I really, really think Camacho was under-rated & too-forgotten (today) as both a Jr. Light & Lightweight, but Pedroza edges him here. Pedroza was really the better man, of the two.
Main Event & 1st U'Card:
1990: In a Heavyweight double-feature, Bert Cooper & Gerry Cooney, returning from respective losses to Ray Mercer & George Foreman, turn their attentions to one another, while Foreman & Mercer meet when they're done.
2nd U'Card:
Hector Camacho (1986) returns for a Lightweight battle with Joel Casamayor (2006).
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 14:49
by allworld80
Cooney survives an early knockdown and some tense moments to dispatch Cooper in the 6th.
A young, explosive Ray Mercer pulls the semi-upset and outpoints Big George to a UD.
Camacho's blazing speed offsets Casamayor's slightly better skillset to take a MD.
Roy Jones Jr (2003) vs Evander Holyfield (1988) in a 190 catchweight fight
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 26 Jan 2010, 15:06
by Idisagree
Holyfield by KO 2. Holyfield way too strong for Jones. I don't see Jones reflexes helping him at all on this fight. Jones will get pin to corner and he is not getting out of there in one piece.
Pedro Montañez vs Arturo Gatti at 135
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 27 Jan 2010, 02:41
by Goodnight, Irene
Montanez is maybe the greatest Rican who ever lived. He'd easily sweep aside Gatti at Lightweight. He belongs in better company.
Wilfred Benitez vs. Julio Cesar Chavez at Jr. Welter. 15 rounds...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 27 Jan 2010, 08:52
by Datsue
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Montanez is maybe the greatest Rican who ever lived. He'd easily sweep aside Gatti at Lightweight. He belongs in better company.
Wilfred Benitez vs. Julio Cesar Chavez at Jr. Welter. 15 rounds...
I always thought Julio was at his absolute peak as a lightweight. He was quicker at closing the distance, his punches had more oomph on them & he was a tiny bit sharper at bobbing & weaving under shots. So with that said...
El Radar proves just too slick & evasive for the 140 pound version of JCC superstar. I could see Chavez putting him down a couple of times late & has him hanging on at the end, but Benitez takes the decision.
Victor Rabanales (in the Rafael Marquez fight) vs Rafael Marquez (first Silence Mabuza fight)
Would Rafa be able to turn the tide, with another thirty odd pro bouts under his belt, or would the awkward, strong Rabanales just have his number?
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 06:14
by Goodnight, Irene
I do think Marquez turns the tide with the extra ring experience. I still have a niggling worry he'd struggle in stages, though. I like Marquez on a competitive UD, here.
Circa-2000 - A Jr. Lightweight battle between Naseem Hamed & Joel Casamayor?
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 12:42
by alexpaterson
Casamayor has the fundementals to beat Naseem I think he counter punches him and wins widely on points.
Roy Jones JR v Marvin Hagler Middleweight 12 rounds
Bernard Hopkins v Carlos Monzon 15 rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 11:17
by Goodnight, Irene
Hagler SD12 Jones
Monzon TKO13 Hopkins (Big call, but I think it can be done)
Pernell Whitaker (1995) vs. Fernando Vargas (2000) over twelve rounds at Jr. Middleweight...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 17:53
by allworld80
Prime Vargas at his peak, and in his best weight class, takes a UD or late stoppage against a somewhat past it Sweet Pea. El Feroz never fights a better fight on this night, as he sees an absolute ring legend primed for the upset.
"The Brazilian Bombshell" Eder Jofre vs Carlos Zarate @118 lbs
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 09:57
by mhagler91490
tzyuforever wrote:Prime Vargas at his peak, and in his best weight class, takes a UD or late stoppage against a somewhat past it Sweet Pea. El Feroz never fights a better fight on this night, as he sees an absolute ring legend primed for the upset.
"The Brazilian Bombshell" Eder Jofre vs Carlos Zarate @118 lbs
I think it would be a classy, fast paced fight at range for the first 8 rounds but I see Jofre taking over down the stretch and winning a clear, competitive decision.
Lupe Pintor-Jeff Fenech
118 pounds | 15 rounds
also
Luis Manuel Rodriguez-Jose Napoles
147 pounds | 15 rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 01:47
by Goodnight, Irene
Pintor & Naploes on decisions for these two.
Paul Williams & John Mugabi at Jr. Middleweight. 12 Rounds...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 20:33
by dom74
Nigel Benn vs Marvin Hagler at 160lb. Benn is my favorite fighter for pur excitement but yes he gets taken apart in 4-5 rnds. Could rival Hagler-Hearns for excitement though

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 20:45
by Goodnight, Irene
dom74 wrote:Nigel Benn vs Marvin Hagler at 160lb. Benn is my favorite fighter for pur excitement but yes he gets taken apart in 4-5 rnds. Could rival Hagler-Hearns for excitement though

The way the game works is --- one member posts a match, the next person answers briefly with a prediction,
then we move on. You or someone else needs to address Mugabi-Williams, before another match can be posted.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 20:52
by dom74
Goodnight, Irene wrote:dom74 wrote:Nigel Benn vs Marvin Hagler at 160lb. Benn is my favorite fighter for pur excitement but yes he gets taken apart in 4-5 rnds. Could rival Hagler-Hearns for excitement though

The way the game works is --- one member posts a match, the next person answers briefly with a prediction,
then we move on. You or someone else needs to address Mugabi-Williams, before another match can be posted.
Im sorry im relatively new to this, as for the previous bout, Williams by mid rounds after Mugabi has thrown his bombs
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 20:55
by dom74
dom74 wrote:Goodnight, Irene wrote:dom74 wrote:Nigel Benn vs Marvin Hagler at 160lb. Benn is my favorite fighter for pur excitement but yes he gets taken apart in 4-5 rnds. Could rival Hagler-Hearns for excitement though

The way the game works is --- one member posts a match, the next person answers briefly with a prediction,
then we move on. You or someone else needs to address Mugabi-Williams, before another match can be posted.
Im sorry im relatively new to this, as for the previous bout, Williams by mid rounds after Mugabi has thrown his bombs
Seeing as i answered my own question il post another, Roy Jones jr vs Hagler again at 160