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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Apr 2009, 22:25
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Frank
Send James out for the menudo con pata. Hot chiles.Drink plenty of water and go to bed early. Dr. Rog
Rog...James is up in the Eastern Sierras fishing, I was going with him, but I started feeling like shit last week that I didn't go.... :witzend:
Frank
If you'd gone,you would have been breathing fresh air and gotten a break from the house.Besides when you started thinking about all the fish you would have caught,it didn't make you feel any better.
Rog...James called and said fishing has been great, BUT,they are freezing their ass's off, best I stayed home with Connie and Charlie... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Apr 2009, 22:38
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buoj3-AHd08

For Frank

Sick And Tired(Chris Kenner)
Thanks, Rog....But I'm not sick per se, I feel the way do because of the cancer treatment I went through, and its going to be like this for the rest of my life, good times and mostly bad times.
Frank . . . I don't expect this to make you feel much better, but Don Fraser really thinks highly of you.
If your ears were burning around 1pm. it was because we were discussing you, and he really appreciates your help.
I was telling him about this thread, and what you share here, what you have created for us.
I think you know how much you mean to us. Hate to think of what you must go thru with your treatment.
However, I'm just glad you are here. Hopefully this episode will pass quickly.

-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Apr 2009, 22:53
by kikibalt
Just to give you an idea of what I went through, below is one of the treatment's I went through and its the one causing me to feel lousy, the chemo was bad, but only when I was taking it, once I was done with the chemo I didn't have side-effects, but this Lupron treatment is hell, never again will I take it.

Hormonal Therapy for Prostate Cancer

For patients with metastatic disease, for some patients who choose to not have radiation or surgery, and for some patients with a climbing PSA after radiation or surgery, hormone therapy is frequently the first treatment offered. The reason is that the male hormone testosterone causes the growth of prostate cancer. Testosterone is mostly produced by the testicles, and a smaller supply comes from the adrenal glands.

There are two treatments that reduce the supply of testosterone from the testicles to the prostate tumor. One method is an orchiectomy. This is the surgical removal of the testicles. The other approach is a monthly injection of Lupron or Zoladex, medications which stop the production of testosterone. Both Lupron and Zoladex are also available in a 3 or 4-month preparation. The side effects of both the orchiectomy and Lupron/Zoladex are hot flashes, and, in virtually all patients, low sexual desire and impotence (inability to have an erection). There can be muscle loss, weight gain, anemia (a lowering of the red blood cells which can contribute to fatigue), and in some patients on long-term therapy, osteoporosis or thinning of the bone. There are some medications that may help decrease hot flashes. Medications exist to treat anemia and osteoporosis. The impact that hormone treatments have on an individual's sex life is equally as important as other side effects, and we hope to provide an open, supportive environment for you to discuss this if you wish. There is also a very helpful booklet provided by the American Cancer Society called Sexuality and Cancer: For the Man Who Has Cancer, and His Partner. We have copies of this booklet available upon request. There are also resources within the University to discuss treatments for impotence.

In addition to the injections or surgery, you may also be started on an oral medication called flutamide (Eulexin) or bicalutamide (Casodex), which will block the uptake of testosterone by the tumor cells, regardless of where it was produced (testicles or adrenal glands). While debate remains, many physicians who treat prostate cancer feel that these two drugs are equivalent. A third pill called nilutamide (Nilandron) is on the market, although we tend not to use it because of potential side effects.

The side effects from Eulexin may include mild stomach distress, such as diarrhea. Eulexin, Casodex and Nilandron can make blood tests that measure liver function (liver enzymes) abnormally high, and, on rare occasions, the drug may need to be stopped because of this. The liver enzymes return to normal (in the vast majority of patients) once the drug is discontinued. Because of this, we recommend checking blood tests that measure the liver enzymes one month after starting Eulexin, Casodex or Nilandron, and then once every 3 months. Diarrhea and abnormalities in liver enzymes occur in less than 5-10% of patients.

While most patients stay on these drugs indefinitely, some patients are treated with "intermittent" therapy. This involves taking Lupron or Zoladex plus Eulexin, Nilandron or Casodex until the PSA falls to its lowest point and for a total of 9 to 12 months. The drugs are then stopped, with careful PSA monitoring (usually once every 1 or 2 months). When the PSA starts to climb and reaches about half of the previous highest PSA level, the drugs are started again until the PSA again falls, and so on. This is an unproven approach, but its benefits include being off hormone therapy for up to 12 months at a stretch, and possibly prolonging the time to when the cancer becomes resistant to hormones.

Alternative ways of administering hormonal therapy are also utilized. When Casodex is given at high dose (3 pills a day instead of 1), two studies have shown that it may be equivalent to the use of a Lupron shot plus low-dose Casodex. These studies suggested that there may be fewer side-effects with this approach, although confirmatory studies are needed.

Osteoporosis: Long-term hormone therapy can cause osteoporosis. Zoledronate is a drug given by vein over 20 minutes once every four weeks, which stabilizes bone, and may help prevent bone loss in patients receiving hormonal therapy. Zoledronate may also be able to slow the progression of prostate cancer, and is available on a study to patients who are on hormonal therapy and have a rising PSA, but do not have evidence of spread of prostate cancer to the bones or elsewhere. The purpose of the study is to see if Zoledronate helps prevent bone metastases. Patients are randomly assigned to receive Zoledronate at the time of study entry, or at the time of disease progression. Zoledronate is easily administered and side effects are minimal.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 26 Apr 2009, 22:56
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buoj3-AHd08

For Frank

Sick And Tired(Chris Kenner)
Thanks, Rog....But I'm not sick per se, I feel the way do because of the cancer treatment I went through, and its going to be like this for the rest of my life, good times and mostly bad times.
Frank . . . I don't expect this to make you feel much better, but Don Fraser really thinks highly of you.
If your ears were burning around 1pm. it was because we were discussing you, and he really appreciates your help.
I was telling him about this thread, and what you share here, what you have created for us.
I think you know how much you mean to us. Hate to think of what you must go thru with your treatment.
However, I'm just glad you are here. Hopefully this episode will pass quickly.

-Rick
Thanks, Rick....Don Fraser and I work together well.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 01:39
by Rick Farris
Dongee wrote:Rog and Rick:

Thanks for the kind words. They mean a lot to an old, proud papa. I have four fine kids, two of each, and they are so damned well adjusted they scare me at times. My daughter Didi got a call from someone interested in talking to me about Arizmendi, whom I not only saw, but admired immensely even before I met him, spoke with him and saw him regularly. My boss at the Legion when I was assistant matchmaker was Cal Working, who managed Arizmendi's boxing career.

Someone on the CBZ took exception with Arizmendi's being voted into the World Boxing Hall of Fame. I am happy to say that after I presented Arizmendi's ring credentials, the critic thought differently. That made me happy, because I have always thought highly of any fighter who does what Arizmendi did before he was even old enough to vote. I will elaborate on that later.

hap navarro
Hap . . . It's my understanding that Arizmendi might be the youngest man ever to fight as a professional?
Reports vary, but he may have been as young as 7-years-old? I'm very interested in what you have to say.

Years ago, shortly after I turned 19, and had been fighting pro for about a year, Allan Malamud of the Herald-Examiner wrote a story about my father and I.
Somebody mailed the story to a boxing historian in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. His name was Johnny Houck.
The historian had a small boxing museum and was the younger brother of a former heavyweight contender, Leo Houck.

Johnny Houck wrote me a letter and requested I mail him a photo, which I did.
I had no idea that the picture I mailed him would end up in the museum, but decades later I would learn that it did.
He was a kind man and sent me a great deal of information on his late brother, including pics of him sparring with Dempsey, etc.

Leo Houck had fought his first pro bout at age twelve, and competed in every division from bantam thru heavyweight.
I've never researched this subject, but Leo Houck was the youngest pro boxer I was aware of. Now I'm learning more about Arizmendi.
I understand he owned a restaurant in the Echo Park area.

Anything you can provide on the history of Baby Arizmendi would be appreciated. I just watched a film of his 4th fight with Armstrong.


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 03:31
by bennie
Carl Froch lives above his mother's pub in Nottingham (The Engine house) but has never touched a drink in his life, which probably explains some of his his endurance.
He is the best boxer from Nottingham since Kirkland Laing, the gifted stylist who shocked an out-of-shape Duran in 1982.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 08:52
by kikibalt
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This boxer had more professional bouts (on record) than any other prizefighter in history.
An Englishman from days gone by. You should see his record!

-Rick Farris

Photo courtesy of John Bardelli

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 08:55
by kikibalt
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 08:59
by kikibalt
Courtesy of Hap Navarro

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Violence Embodied in a Boxer’s Rise and Fall
By A. O. SCOTT

The first thing you see in “Tyson,” James Toback’s powerful and troubling new documentary, is an old television clip showing Mike Tyson, on Nov. 22, 1986, defeating Trevor Berbick to win the W.B.C. heavyweight title. Just 20 years old, Mr. Tyson was the youngest fighter to win that belt, and to see him take it is to recall, especially in light of the shambling, thuggish caricature he would later become, what a dazzling and ferocious boxer he was in his prime.
The only thing more astonishing than the speed of his combinations was their force, and his ability to blend quickness with brute strength quickly overpowered his early opponents, not many of whom lasted very long in the ring with him. Mr. Berbick, a taller, heavier and more experienced fighter, was done before the second round was over, and what the slow-motion video shows most indelibly is the terror on his face before the referee mercifully called a TKO.
The essence of boxing is violence, but few fighters have refined it — have embodied it — quite as effectively as Mr. Tyson has; he sometimes speaks to Mr. Toback’s camera about the murderous clarity he took into the ring with him. He says he used to imagine his fists smashing through his opponent’s faces and out the backs of their heads. The pure terror in Mr. Berbick’s eyes (and in those of most of the other fighters Mr. Tyson met during his rapid rise and brief reign) suggests that he might well have been capable of wreaking that kind of damage.
But the damage surveyed in “Tyson” is mostly self-inflicted. Fear is certainly one of the film’s motifs, but it seems that Mr. Tyson suffers from at least as much as he inspires. “I’m afraid. I’m afraid. I’m afraid,” he says at one point, giving voice to his state of mind in the moments before a bout. He also remembers being bullied and humiliated as a child in Brooklyn, but in listening to his moody, rambling and frequently thoughtful disquisitions on his own life you are struck by intimations of a dread much deeper than the fear of physical harm or loss of face.
With a single exception — his relationship with his trainer and mentor, Cus D’Amato — Mr. Tyson’s experience of the world has been marked by mistrust and suspicion, by a view of other people that is hard and pitiless. They are users, operators, “leeches,” he says, but he rarely claims to be any better. He is only human.
Most of the movie consists of the former champ sitting in a house near the Pacific Ocean, speaking into the camera as if no one else were around. This produces an effect of almost unnerving intimacy — it is a bit scary to be so close to him — but also an upwelling, perhaps unexpected, of compassion. It is hard to imagine anyone more radically alone.
Whether or not he deserves our sympathy is a fair question. It is easy, and not entirely unjustified, to look at Mr. Tyson, his left eye ringed by a Maori tattoo, his head shaved clean, and see a self-pitying, self-justifying man who squandered his talent and good fortune and caused much more hurt than his brutal profession required. He started out as a street criminal in Brownsville, Brooklyn, and was plucked from juvenile detention by Mr. D’Amato and his associates, who disciplined the young man’s natural volatility and turned him into a fighter.
But Mr. Tyson never learned to control his brutish, self-destructive instincts. His brief first marriage, to the actress and model Robin Givens, was marked by accusations of abuse, and in 1993 he went to prison after being convicted of sexually assaulting a beauty pageant contestant in Indiana. By now he may be better known for ranting and press conferences and for biting Evander Holyfield’s ear during a 1997 fight than for the mighty pugilistic feats of his youth.
And a lot of people, even passionate boxing fans, might prefer to forget about Mr. Tyson rather than spend 90 minutes in his company. But “Tyson” is worth seeing even if you have no particular interest in the sport or the man.
It may lack the detachment and the balance that Barbara Kopple brought to “Fallen Champ: The Untold Story of Mike Tyson,” the 1993 documentary she made for NBC, but Mr. Toback’s film, partly because it restricts itself to Mr. Tyson’s point of view, offers a rare and vivid study in the complexity of a single suffering, raging soul. It is not an entirely trustworthy movie, but it does feel profoundly honest.
From time to time the screen is divided into two or three almost identical images, and the sound is edited to make it sound as if Mr. Tyson is in dialogue with himself, his words echoing and overlapping. These effects emphasize the film’s main point, which is that Mr. Tyson is too mercurial, too self-contradictory, to be easily summed up.
He is by turns boastful, angry, remorseful and bewildered, choking up when he recalls Mr. D’Amato, whose death in 1985 remains the central tragedy of Mr. Tyson’s life. He relates the details of that life with candor and feeling, and also with an analytical ardor that is moving because it reveals his struggle to figure himself out.
Without the sympathetic presence of Mr. Toback, whom he has known for many years, it is unlikely that Mr. Tyson would have opened up in this way. And it is also likely that without Mr. Tyson’s presence, the director would have been unlikely to restrain his own self-indulgent impulses.
Mr. Toback’s fascination with hyperbolic visions of masculinity predates his filmmaking career, going back at least to a notorious 1967 essay on Norman Mailer. As a screenwriter and director — from “Fingers” to “Harvard Man” — he has been preoccupied with brutality, vanity and sexual conquest, and with the interplay between those elemental impulses and the refinements of art and culture.
His protagonists tend to be variously romanticized versions of himself: intellectuals seduced by fantasies of crime, risk, sexual wantonness and violence. Even in his most interesting projects he frequently loses track of the difference between exploring such fantasies and indulging them, but in “Tyson,” his first nonfiction film, he is held in check by the irreducible, excruciating realness of the man in front of the camera. The transaction between them is charged with a strange kind of magic. The filmmaker allows the fighter to have his unchallenged say to justify, condemn and contradict himself. In exchange Mr. Tyson has enabled Mr. Toback to make his best film, which is also, paradoxically, his most personal.
“Tyson” is rated R (Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian). It has profanity and violence.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 09:10
by kikibalt
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"Every time Rocky hit you it was like getting hit with a blackjack." --- Archie Moore

As true as this maybe, you have to give ancient Archie a lot of credit for putting "The Rock" on the deck before being KOed.
Archie would continue on, a rare late career loss to Patterson in another attempt at the vacant heavyweight title after Rocky had retired.
Seven years after losing to Rocky, he'd fight yet another future heavyweight great, Cassius Clay. He was closing in on 50-years-old.
Getting banged by Rocky no doubt felt like getting hit by a blackjack, but my hats off to the Old Mongoose.
His KO record will never be equaled. Few in history have equaled his longevity, certainly not with such siccess.

Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 09:15
by kikibalt
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Frankie Duarte

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 09:16
by kikibalt
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 09:17
by kikibalt
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 09:28
by kikibalt
Refined Hatton ready for Pacquiao

|Ricky Hatton, said some of his boxing skills had eroded in recent years, but working with Floyd Mayweather Sr. has been a revitalizing process. Ricky Hatton, taking a break during a recent workout, said he and trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr. have focused on three specific areas: footwork, head movement, and hand speed and counter punching. All will be key to Hatton's success when he takes on Manny Pacquiao on Saturday at the MGM Grand.

By STEVE CARP
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL Video Ricky Hatton said there's a misconception about himself that he wanted to clarify.

Contrary to popular belief, the junior welterweight from Manchester, England, has not reinvented himself since joining forces with trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr. Rather, Hatton calls it a refinement of skills he already possessed.

"I'm still the old Ricky Hatton," he said of the power-punching, rough-and-tumble fighter he has been throughout a 13-year professional career that has produced a 45-1 record with 32 knockouts. "I'm just more polished."

Hatton has not forgotten how to be aggressive. But he admitted some of his boxing skills had eroded in the latter stages of his relationship with Billy Graham, who had trained him from the outset of his career until last summer, when the duo parted ways.

"I knew I had good footwork, a good jab and good head movement," Hatton said. "The problem was I had stopped using those things. In the time I've been with Floyd, I've been able to rediscover those parts of my game."

He knows he'll need all his boxing skills if he hopes to defeat Manny Pacquiao on Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden.

But Hatton is sincere when he talks about the fight and what the outcome will be.

"I'm not the bragging type," he said. "But I feel different for this fight than any other. I feel like I'm a more complete fighter. I feel better prepared.

"But saying is one thing and doing is another. It's a very, very tough fight. Manny is a great fighter. But I'm going to be the biggest man that Manny has faced. And it's going to be one of those rare times where I am bigger and taller than my opponent."

At 5 feet 7 inches, Hatton is an inch taller than Pacquiao. So it's not like he's going to tower over him.

Still, if Hatton believes he has an advantage and it keeps him in a positive frame of mind, he'll use it. But his skill set in the ring needed a tuneup, and Mayweather has been able to connect with him during their 12-week training camp as they team up for the second time.

Their first time together was a seven-week camp to prepare Hatton for his Nov. 22 fight with Paulie Malignaggi. Hatton had one of his most impressive performances in years, scoring an 11th-round TKO victory at the MGM.

"I'm in a perfect place I want to be with my weight, my sharpness, everything," Hatton said.

Mayweather said Hatton continues to be a good student.

"Listen, the name of the game is hit and not get hit," Mayweather said. "Ricky has much better boxing skills than people realize, and he showed them when he beat Malignaggi, and he's going to show them when he beats Pacquiao."

Mayweather has concentrated on three specific areas with Hatton. One is footwork. He wants his fighter to have better balance and be able to slip Pacquiao's left hand when Pacquiao comes forward. Hatton said his lateral movement is much improved, and he won't be an easy a target for Pacquiao's left hand.

Second, Mayweather has continued to stress head movement. He wants Hatton to be elusive from the neck up, something Hatton showed signs of against Malignaggi, a fighter with quick hands who never was able to get a clean shot in on Hatton. His head movement that night was arguably the best he had displayed his entire professional career.

Finally, there's hand speed and counter punching. Mayweather has emphasized timing to Hatton, knowing when to get in and when to get out. The plan is to box with Pacquiao rather than brawl with him.

"I'm a lot more difficult to read right now," Hatton said. "I strongly believe I would be as fast as Manny. My defense is a lot better. I'm moving my head faster. I'm jabbing a bit more. I think Manny's going to be shocked when he sees what I've got, technically speaking."

Hatton said the fact he and Mayweather understand each other better the second time around has made this camp fun, as well as educational.

"The first time we were together, I didn't understand a thing Floyd was saying the first two weeks, and I don't think he got my sense of humor," Hatton said. "But he's a fantastic trainer, and no disrespect to (Pacquiao's trainer) Freddie Roach, but I think I've got the best trainer in boxing in my corner."

Mayweather didn't disagree.

"Ricky don't need me to beat Pacquiao," he said. "But he has a better chance to win with me than without me."

Contact reporter Steve Carp at [email protected] or 702-387-2913.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 09:33
by kikibalt
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Tony Baltazar (R), 1976 Jr. Olympic fight, won by ko

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 09:36
by kikibalt
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Frankie Baltazar (R) Jr. fight, Stanton A.C., circa 1968

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 10:37
by raylawpc
Rick Farris wrote:Here's an interesting question . . .

What do Jack Johnson, Kid Azteca and Roberto Duran have in common?



-Rick Farris
Their careers all extended over 5 decades.

Addition: Ooops, I see I was too late and you later answered your own question. Sorry.

To make up for my mistake, I'll post a follow-up. Whose boxing career extended over 6 decades?

(Hint: This guys is too old for even Frank to have shared drinks with him at the Boom-Boom Club.)

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 12:14
by Dongee
On Baby Arizmendi, dubbed early on in Mexico as "the little General".

Began pro career at 14, stocky, solidly built physique, 17" neck at maturity.Debuted at the Olympic at the age of 17, defeating the top bantam in the country, Speedy Dado. All Dado had done a month earlier in the same ring was to take every round from the reigning bantamweight champion of the world, Al Brown.

At 18, Arizmendi was asked to fight the very great Freddie Miller for the world's featherweight crown, losing on points. A couple of weeks later Arizmendi defeated Miller, non title, in the northern bay area. Then, while still a minor, he battled America's resident title holder, Tony Canzoneri. Is this any way to treat a minor?

Baby lost a lot of bouts due to his carefree, nonchalant style in the ring. The record shows that he also won over many of his conquerors in prior or subsequent matches. He would often wait until 20 seconds before the round's end to start his rally.

But in his entire, length career, Baby was never knocked out or even floored.. His KO losses were on cuts. He was fighting Lou Ambers on even terms when a deep gash caused the bout to be halted. His wins over Henry Armstrong attest to his overall ability as a contender. In one match, Baby beat Henry even with a broken wrist, suffered early in the fight. The topper happened late in his career when he was matched with the deadly-punching Cal. Jackie Wilson, outdoors at Wrigley Field, for the state welterweight titler. Jackie stopped him on cuts, but it was also Jackie who was floored, not once, but twice during the fight.

Because of the length of time that has passed you can rarely find someone who saw Bay, who knew him, and who witnessed the adulation heaped on him in his prime. But until a dozen years ago, many of the old guard would still cling to the belief that Baby Arizmendi was the greatest of all Mexican battlers. He was really something, fellas, and in 1951, we, at the Spanish-American Press Club voted, him, Colima, Ortiz, Bolanos and Aragon as the greatest quintet of Mexican fighters ever.

I rest my case, Ricardo.

hap navarro

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 12:23
by Rick Farris
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Alphonse Halimi's induction into the World Boxing Hall of Fame will take place this year.
It's long overdue. As a new member of of the WBHOF administration, their historian, I'm only just familiarizing myself with who has, or has not made our role call.
I am amazed by the great boxers who have been overlooked.

The recommendation of Alphonse Halimi came to me thru Don Fraser. Don assumed that Alphonse was still alive.
I told Don that Halimi had passed a few years ago, and immediatly put his induction in motion.

Yesterday, as I spoke with Don, we both lamented that it was sad we could not have done so while he was still alive.
I wish we could honor such legends while they are here to appreciate their recognition. Such is life.


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 12:27
by Expug
Guys, it says on the front page of the site, that Greg Page has passed away.
Sad news indeed. As all of us know , he suffered horrific injuries in his last fight that left him incapacitated for the last few years.
3 years or so ago, I , along with my judo students at the dojo I used to teach at hosted a martial arts demonstration to raise money for Greg.I never met him,but nevertheless, I knew he was in trouble and needed some help.
We took in some dough and sent it to his wife Pat.
The only reason I mention this, is because his wife personaly sent a thankyou card to every single person who donated anything including myself. She is a wonderful woman who fought hard with Greg in an extremely difficult situation Im sure.
My heartfealt prayers go out to her and Greg and all of their loved ones.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 12:43
by kikibalt
Former boxing champ Greg Page dies

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LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP)—Greg Page, a former heavyweight boxing champion who suffered a severe brain injury in a 2001 fight, has died at his Louisville home. He was 50.

His wife, Patricia Page, said she found the one-time World Boxing Association champion in his bed Monday morning. Patricia Page said he died of complications related to injuries he suffered in the fight.

Page told The Associated Press her husband “is in a better place now.”

The March 9, 2001, fight left Page in a coma for nearly a week. He then had a stroke during post-fight surgery. He was paralyzed on his left side and received intensive physical therapy.

Page won a $1.2 million settlement in 2007 with Kentucky boxing officials over the lack of medical personnel at the fight. Boxing officials also agreed to establish a medical review panel for the Kentucky Boxing and Wrestling Authority to check the health conditions of people involved in the sport who may be at risk for injury.

Page started fighting while growing up in Louisville and was sparring with Muhammad Ali by the time he was 15. He became the National Golden Gloves heavyweight champion in 1978 at age 20.

He turned to professional boxing and lost his first shot at the WBA heavyweight championship in 1984 to Tim Witherspoon. In December of that year, Page knocked out Gerrie Coetzee in the eighth round of their bout in South Africa to claim the title, but lost on points to Tony Tubbs five months later.

Page continued boxing through 1993, then took two years off after being knocked out by Bruce Seldon. He started again in 1996.

Page was 42 and had a 58-16-1 career record going into the $1,500 fight against Dale Crowe at Peels Palace in Erlanger, Ky., near Cincinnati. Crowe was 24 and an up-and-coming boxer. Page went down after 10 rounds and didn’t get up.

Patricia Page said Monday that funeral arrangements were pending.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 12:50
by Rick Farris
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Frankie Duarte
"El Huero" . . .

This is one of my all-time favorite boxing personalities, and a guy I'm proud to call a friend.
We always end up laughing when we speak. Always a funny story, a warm memory.
He fought with courage, a throw back prizefighter who never failed to bring a crowd to their feet.

Like many, he struggled with his demons during his career.
However, unlike most, he overcame his personal challeneges, and has succeeded in life.
He has a great family, and a solid profession.

Today you'll see Frankie at various boxing functions in L.A. and at the Wild Card Gym in Hollywood, where he will work with boxers.
However, if you want an ear full of great boxing talk, just stop by "Phil's Barber Shop" in Venice.
Phil is an ex-pro with a two-chair shop on Washington Blvd.
Frankie and his father are both barbers, and alternate shifts cutting hair in the chair besides Phil.


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 12:52
by Rick Farris
Expug wrote:Guys, it says on the front page of the site, that Greg Page has passed away.
Sad news indeed. As all of us know , he suffered horrific injuries in his last fight that left him incapacitated for the last few years.
3 years or so ago, I , along with my judo students at the dojo I used to teach at hosted a martial arts demonstration to raise money for Greg.I never met him,but nevertheless, I knew he was in trouble and needed some help.
We took in some dough and sent it to his wife Pat.
The only reason I mention this, is because his wife personaly sent a thankyou card to every single person who donated anything including myself. She is a wonderful woman who fought hard with Greg in an extremely difficult situation Im sure.
My heartfealt prayers go out to her and Greg and all of their loved ones.
That was a great gesture, Brian.
May Greg Page rest in Peace.

-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 12:56
by Rick Farris
raylawpc wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Here's an interesting question . . .

What do Jack Johnson, Kid Azteca and Roberto Duran have in common?



-Rick Farris
Their careers all extended over 5 decades.

Addition: Ooops, I see I was too late and you later answered your own question. Sorry.

To make up for my mistake, I'll post a follow-up. Whose boxing career extended over 6 decades?

(Hint: This guys is too old for even Frank to have shared drinks with him at the Boom-Boom Club.)

Tom . . . I always appreciate what you have to share.
Your posts do not go unnoticed, and have already contributed to the WBHOF.
The spirit of George Dixon will likely be smiling this coming October 24th.

-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 27 Apr 2009, 13:15
by Rick Farris
Dongee wrote:On Baby Arizmendi, dubbed early on in Mexico as "the little General".

Began pro career at 14, stocky, solidly built physique, 17" neck at maturity.Debuted at the Olympic at the age of 17, defeating the top bantam in the country, Speedy Dado. All Dado had done a month earlier in the same ring was to take every round from the reigning bantamweight champion of the world, Al Brown.

At 18, Arizmendi was asked to fight the very great Freddie Miller for the world's featherweight crown, losing on points. A couple of weeks later Arizmendi defeated Miller, non title, in the northern bay area. Then, while still a minor, he battled America's resident title holder, Tony Canzoneri. Is this any way to treat a minor?

Baby lost a lot of bouts due to his carefree, nonchalant style in the ring. The record shows that he also won over many of his conquerors in prior or subsequent matches. He would often wait until 20 seconds before the round's end to start his rally.

But in his entire, length career, Baby was never knocked out or even floored.. His KO losses were on cuts. He was fighting Lou Ambers on even terms when a deep gash caused the bout to be halted. His wins over Henry Armstrong attest to his overall ability as a contender. In one match, Baby beat Henry even with a broken wrist, suffered early in the fight. The topper happened late in his career when he was matched with the deadly-punching Cal. Jackie Wilson, outdoors at Wrigley Field, for the state welterweight titler. Jackie stopped him on cuts, but it was also Jackie who was floored, not once, but twice during the fight.

Because of the length of time that has passed you can rarely find someone who saw Bay, who knew him, and who witnessed the adulation heaped on him in his prime. But until a dozen years ago, many of the old guard would still cling to the belief that Baby Arizmendi was the greatest of all Mexican battlers. He was really something, fellas, and in 1951, we, at the Spanish-American Press Club voted, him, Colima, Ortiz, Bolanos and Aragon as the greatest quintet of Mexican fighters ever.

I rest my case, Ricardo.

hap navarro

Truly amazing! This post has proved one helluva lesson, perhaps the best of the entire thread, personally speaking. My eyes have been opened wide on Baby Arizmendi and I thank you very much.

Just seventeen whe he whipped Speedy Dado at the Olympic. As you know, Hap, the Olympic has always held a special place in my heart. The Hollywood Legion was long gone when I made my pro debut at the Olympic in 1970. As I have written before on these pages, years later, I'd work at the 18th & Grand Arena on motion picture productions. I could then sneak up into the balcony and dream of days gone by, not my days, but those like you just described. Arizmendi vs. Dado, Armstrong, etc. Days that I would only read or hear about.

Coming from you, they suddenly come into focus. My friend Karl Nelson had seen Arizmendi in action when he was a young man. He wold tell me about his thick neck, and how he would finsih each round strong. Amazing that a man so young could do so much. Hell, at 17, I'd been fighting for a few years but had only just entered my first Golden Gloves tournament. I was very impressed with myself jumping right into the open division for my first official amateur fight, and going to the nationals. The thought of somebody whipping Speedy Dado at such a young age is beyond comprehension.

Thanks for sharing your memories Hap, it has left a big impression.


-Rick Farris