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dagosd2000 wrote:I WISHED THEY"D ALL DONE GOOD

Everybody wants to make it to the big time. Big time means big money. This big time fight coming up between Pacman and Hatton. I know it's in Vegas somewhere. Haven't been following it too close,but I know it's the big time. Big money for everyone. With a fight like this,I don't feel sorry for the loser. For big time money like that,nobody loses.

But I'm for the fighters. All of them. What the hell. Tough way to make a living. They asked Carmen Basilio not too long ago how he felt about the fighters today.
"What the hell. I hope they all do good,"he answered grauwchily.
Sometimes I think some of these old timers would rather talk about their grandchildren than fighting.
"What was Sugar Ray like?"
"Who was the toughest guy you fought?"
All I know is Basilio could have fought a thousand fights and not made half as much money as Manny or Ricky are going to put into the bank after Saturday.

So what I'm trying to say is the road to the top is what interests me. These future champions that paid their dues at arenas like the Hollywood Legion,the San Diego Coliseum,and the Tijuana Auditorium. Fighting 4 round pre lims and crowd chasers. Fighting against pugs that were on a ticket to nowhere.

Too bad those guys that rode that train didn't do good. They deserved better.

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:I WISHED THEY"D ALL DONE GOOD

Everybody wants to make it to the big time. Big time means big money. This big time fight coming up between Pacman and Hatton. I know it's in Vegas somewhere. Haven't been following it too close,but I know it's the big time. Big money for everyone. With a fight like this,I don't feel sorry for the loser. For big time money like that,nobody loses.

But I'm for the fighters. All of them. What the hell. Tough way to make a living. They asked Carmen Basilio not too long ago how he felt about the fighters today.
"What the hell. I hope they all do good,"he answered grauwchily.
Sometimes I think some of these old timers would rather talk about their grandchildren than fighting.
"What was Sugar Ray like?"
"Who was the toughest guy you fought?"
All I know is Basilio could have fought a thousand fights and not made half as much money as Manny or Ricky are going to put into the bank after Saturday.

So what I'm trying to say is the road to the top is what interests me. These future champions that paid their dues at arenas like the Hollywood Legion,the San Diego Coliseum,and the Tijuana Auditorium. Fighting 4 round pre lims and crowd chasers. Fighting against pugs that were on a ticket to nowhere.

Too bad those guys that rode that train didn't do good. They deserved better.

Maybe they did, and maybe they didn't. You either have it or you don't. Most don't, but somehow believe they did.
A lot of fighters have been taken advantage of, good fighters that almost had what it took, but 99% wouldn't have made it with every advantage on their side.
The Dempsey's, Ali's, Robinson's, Duaran's, Leonard's etc. are very, very rare. Lots come close, but even with all the edges couldn't make it.

I have to say that excuses are much more common than talent in boxing. It's always somebody else's fault.
That's not to say that those prelim guys, club fighters don't have worth, as they often provide the action that saves a show, makes people want to come back and buy a ticket.

There is a fine line seperating good from great in boxing. Anything less than great deverves nothing better than second place.
In boxing, coming in second means you finished in last place.
In such a situation, aside from his purse, a boxer deserves the same prize awarded to those who bet him to win- Nothing.

I've opened the show, been the crowd chaser, semi-main and even had a couple featured events.
I didn't like to lose, got a raw deal on a couple of occasions, stole a decision once, generally fought on even terms, have had my nose busted several times, eye brows sliced, eye's swollen shut, urinated blood for a day or two, woke up with headaches that made me wish I could yank my head off and toss it out the window . . . and I've made other guys feel the same. I was stopped once, but finishes on my feet, never knocked out cold, never, not in the gym, not in the ring. I've had my bell rung, stepped out of the ring with no memory of what I'd done during the previous several days leading up to that moment.

So what? Sometimes I did my best, sometimes it wasn't good enough. Life is unfair, some people have a real problem when it comes to that reality.

I got what I deserved, and so does everybody else in boxing. I don't feel sorry for any boxer that ever walked the face of the planet.
We made a choice, and we did what we wanted. Boxers ALL have nobody to blame but themselves.

We all got we deserved. Nothing more-Nothingless. When a boxer dies in the ring, it's a tragedy. It's also their own fault, all of them.


-Rick Farris

Expug wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:I WISHED THEY"D ALL DONE GOOD

Everybody wants to make it to the big time. Big time means big money. This big time fight coming up between Pacman and Hatton. I know it's in Vegas somewhere. Haven't been following it too close,but I know it's the big time. Big money for everyone. With a fight like this,I don't feel sorry for the loser. For big time money like that,nobody loses.

But I'm for the fighters. All of them. What the hell. Tough way to make a living. They asked Carmen Basilio not too long ago how he felt about the fighters today.
"What the hell. I hope they all do good,"he answered grauwchily.
Sometimes I think some of these old timers would rather talk about their grandchildren than fighting.
"What was Sugar Ray like?"
"Who was the toughest guy you fought?"
All I know is Basilio could have fought a thousand fights and not made half as much money as Manny or Ricky are going to put into the bank after Saturday.

So what I'm trying to say is the road to the top is what interests me. These future champions that paid their dues at arenas like the Hollywood Legion,the San Diego Coliseum,and the Tijuana Auditorium. Fighting 4 round pre lims and crowd chasers. Fighting against pugs that were on a ticket to nowhere.

Too bad those guys that rode that train didn't do good. They deserved better.

Maybe they did, and maybe they didn't. You either have it or you don't. Most don't, but somehow believe they did.
A lot of fighters have been taken advantage of, good fighters that almost had what it took, but 99% wouldn't have made it with every advantage on their side.
The Dempsey's, Ali's, Robinson's, Duaran's, Leonard's etc. are very, very rare. Lots come close, but even with all the edges couldn't make it.

I have to say that excuses are much more common than talent in boxing. It's always somebody else's fault.
That's not to say that those prelim guys, club fighters don't have worth, as they often provide the action that saves a show, makes people want to come back and buy a ticket.

There is a fine line seperating good from great in boxing. Anything less than great deverves nothing better than second place.
In boxing, coming in second means you finished in last place.
In such a situation, aside from his purse, a boxer deserves the same prize awarded to those who bet him to win- Nothing.

I've opened the show, been the crowd chaser, semi-main and even had a couple featured events.
I didn't like to lose, got a raw deal on a couple of occasions, stole a decision once, generally fought on even terms, have had my nose busted several times, eye brows sliced, eye's swollen shut, urinated blood for a day or two, woke up with headaches that made me wish I could yank my head off and toss it out the window . . . and I've made other guys feel the same. I was stopped once, but finishes on my feet, never knocked out cold, never, not in the gym, not in the ring. I've had my bell rung, stepped out of the ring with no memory of what I'd done during the previous several days leading up to that moment.

So what? Sometimes I did my best, sometimes it wasn't good enough. Life is unfair, some people have a real problem when it comes to that reality.

I got what I deserved, and so does everybody else in boxing. I don't feel sorry for any boxer that ever walked the face of the planet.
We made a choice, and we did what we wanted. Boxers ALL have nobody to blame but themselves.

We all got we deserved. Nothing more-Nothingless. When a boxer dies in the ring, it's a tragedy. It's also their own fault, all of them.


-Rick Farris

Rick and Rog.
These two posts that you guys just made here should be carved in freakin granite and put on a wall for the next hundred generations to read.
They arent just about boxing.If everyone had the attitude about life in general that you guys mentioned in reference to the fight game, the world would be a better place.
Not making excuses, taking reponsibility for our actions , being grateful for being able to do what we love,
and appreciating the journey wherever it takes us.
I think thats what you guys mean and I agreee.
Great stuff guys. Wisdom for the ages.

Rick Farris wrote:

dagosd2000 wrote:I WISHED THEY"D ALL DONE GOOD

Everybody wants to make it to the big time. Big time means big money. This big time fight coming up between Pacman and Hatton. I know it's in Vegas somewhere. Haven't been following it too close,but I know it's the big time. Big money for everyone. With a fight like this,I don't feel sorry for the loser. For big time money like that,nobody loses.

But I'm for the fighters. All of them. What the hell. Tough way to make a living. They asked Carmen Basilio not too long ago how he felt about the fighters today.
"What the hell. I hope they all do good,"he answered grauwchily.
Sometimes I think some of these old timers would rather talk about their grandchildren than fighting.
"What was Sugar Ray like?"
"Who was the toughest guy you fought?"
All I know is Basilio could have fought a thousand fights and not made half as much money as Manny or Ricky are going to put into the bank after Saturday.

So what I'm trying to say is the road to the top is what interests me. These future champions that paid their dues at arenas like the Hollywood Legion,the San Diego Coliseum,and the Tijuana Auditorium. Fighting 4 round pre lims and crowd chasers. Fighting against pugs that were on a ticket to nowhere.

Too bad those guys that rode that train didn't do good. They deserved better.

Maybe they did, and maybe they didn't. You either have it or you don't. Most don't, but somehow believe they did.
A lot of fighters have been taken advantage of, good fighters that almost had what it took, but 99% wouldn't have made it with every advantage on their side.
The Dempsey's, Ali's, Robinson's, Duaran's, Leonard's etc. are very, very rare. Lots come close, but even with all the edges couldn't make it.

I have to say that excuses are much more common than talent in boxing. It's always somebody else's fault.
That's not to say that those prelim guys, club fighters don't have worth, as they often provide the action that saves a show, makes people want to come back and buy a ticket.

There is a fine line seperating good from great in boxing. Anything less than great deverves nothing better than second place.
In boxing, coming in second means you finished in last place.
In such a situation, aside from his purse, a boxer deserves the same prize awarded to those who bet him to win- Nothing.

I've opened the show, been the crowd chaser, semi-main and even had a couple featured events.
I didn't like to lose, got a raw deal on a couple of occasions, stole a decision once, generally fought on even terms, have had my nose busted several times, eye brows sliced, eye's swollen shut, urinated blood for a day or two, woke up with headaches that made me wish I could yank my head off and toss it out the window . . . and I've made other guys feel the same. I was stopped once, but finished on my feet, never knocked out cold, never, not in the gym, not in the ring. I've had my bell rung, stepped out of the ring with no memory of what I'd done during the previous several days leading up to that moment. I've fought blind, one eye swollen shut, blood dripping into the other from a cut. I've had concussions (all of us have).

The greatest moments I've ever experienced in life took place in that ring. I wasn't a punching bag, despite the facts above. It comes with the territory. I didn't fight with the success of the Baltazar's, and they didn't fight the with the success of Leonard or Duran. We all got what we deserved. I had some brilliant moments and have some great memories. More good than bad, a lot more good than bad.

So what? Sometimes I did my best, sometimes it wasn't good enough. Life is unfair, some people have a real problem when it comes to that reality.

I got what I deserved, and so does everybody else in boxing. I don't feel sorry for any boxer that ever walked the face of the planet.
We made a choice, and we did what we wanted. Boxers ALL have nobody to blame but themselves.

We all got we deserved. Nothing more-Nothing less. When a boxer dies in the ring, it's a tragedy. It's also their own fault, all of them.

Would I do it again? You bet I would. You just have to know when to quit. Those who don't, well, it's their own fault, they got what they desereved. And just for the record, I didn't have somebody waiting to give me a job in the studios when I retired, my grandad had been dead eight years. I got in on my own, and it was not easy. I got what I deserved, we all do.


-Rick Farris

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Expug wrote:Rick, when I was a kid my Mother used to tell me "son, you are your own person".
She didnt mean it as a negative or a compliment. She could just tell at an early age that I was gonna go my own way.Not follow the crowd .Follow my heart I guess.
I think you are the same way Rick.
I see it as a good thing.

kikibalt wrote:A Kinder & Simpler Time

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:Rick, when I was a kid my Mother used to tell me "son, you are your own person".
She didnt mean it as a negative or a compliment. She could just tell at an early age that I was gonna go my own way.Not follow the crowd .Follow my heart I guess.
I think you are the same way Rick.
I see it as a good thing.

Brian
I've always tried to follow my heart,but there's another part of my anatomy that leads me in another direction.

dagosd2000 wrote:

Rick Farris wrote:Roger . . .

I'll send you a PM within a week, maybe we can discuss some ideas for the WBHOF, your art, etc.
After that, we can set-up a 3-way call with Mando Muniz, and put things in motion for October.
Thi is all new, a first time, see what we can do with it.

Our next board meeting is next saturday, the 8th


-Rick

Rick,I'm at your humble service.Rog

dagosd2000 wrote:

Expug wrote:Rick, when I was a kid my Mother used to tell me "son, you are your own person".
She didnt mean it as a negative or a compliment. She could just tell at an early age that I was gonna go my own way.Not follow the crowd .Follow my heart I guess.
I think you are the same way Rick.
I see it as a good thing.

Brian
I've always tried to follow my heart,but there's another part of my anatomy that leads me in another direction.

bennie wrote:Tell Pops Blackpool is still OK, Dan, but it went downhill for a while because of holidays abroad but is picking up again now (they are doing a helluva lot of work on the Promenade). I certainly enjoyed the week: friendly people, good beer, good food, plenty of entertainment, a day trip to the Lake District, and the hotel was great. A nice little break before the summer season really packs out the town.

PS: It is only the teenagers who have a tattoo and an earring done, Rick. It is like a tradition (or certainly was).

dagosd2000 wrote:

kikibalt wrote:A Kinder & Simpler Time

FALSE TEETH

To try put things in perspective is difficult if you watch the news. My dentist is in Tijuana. I've only got three teeth of my own with the uppers. So I get a full bridge done in 4 hours for 250 bucks. If something goes wrong I get it fixed for free.

My dentist is this gal whose kids go to school across the street on Calle Madero. I bring English books for her children. She even has a painting of mine of Pancho Villa in her office.We talk about our families.the economic conditions on both sides of the border,and what the crime situation is like.

Point is that Americans have just about disappeared off the streets down there. Now with this swine flu thing, it's the coup de gras.

My son in law's father has about as many teeth in his mouth as I have. I told him to come with me and see my dentist. NO WAY. He doesn't want to get get gunned down in the street and catch the flu at the same time. OK pal have it your way. Keep listening to the news and take their word for it. So he shells out 6 grand and waits a month for the same set of false choppers that I have.

For 6 grand he could have bought a bullett proof vest and a surgical mask and had enough left over to buy some tacos.

Dongee wrote:Rog:

When I had an art gallery at Parkway Plaza in El Cajon, there was a small location at Balboa Park called Spanish Village, (if memory serves) that accepted arts and crafts on consignment from local artists. Have you ever considered such an option for your uniquely different works? And for my own curious mind: do you paint on canvas or on board? Do you use oil or acrylic?

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