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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Mar 2010, 12:53
by alexpaterson
Pacquiao could use speed and get in and out similiar to what Taylor did but more effectively. At SFW or LW might be different but at LWW I think JCC was past it and couldnt live with Pacquiao. Pacquiao UD
Jose Napoles vs Floyd Mayweather JR 12 rounds Welterweight
undercard
Ray Leonard vs James Toney 12 rounds Middleweight
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Mar 2010, 15:34
by hitman09
Napoles wins a close, but clear, UD, with Mayweather having the better of the early going but retreating into his shell in the later rounds after he gets a taste of Napoles' power. Napoles was in a different league to anyone Floyd has faced, IMO.
Leonard-Toney is a tough one. I think peak Toney would give any great in history a run for their money, and I think he just takes this one, in an extremely close MD, with Toney winning by just one point on two cards.
Next up, this era vs the 80s at HW:
Vitali Klitschko vs Mike Tyson
John Ruiz vs Michael Spinks
Bonecrusher Smith vs Hasim Rahman
All 12rds, all prime v prime
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Mar 2010, 15:40
by SaadOffTheDeck
The size dimensions are a bitch for Mike, but he is so low and Vitali has such a limited punch variety and not a lot of power. I'm going to take Tyson by borish decision, wouldn't be surprised if Vitali won in a stinker either.
Spinks by wide decision.
Bonehugger by KO.
Chris John vs Rocky Lockridge 12rds
Bert Cooper vs Mormeck 12 rds
Basilio vs Mosley 15rd Main event
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Mar 2010, 17:24
by allworld80
Lockridge takes a UD off the overrated John
Cooper catches Mormeck early or loses late. I'm more inclined to think the latter.
Prime Basilio at 147 decisions Mosley in a razor thin affair.
Jack Dempsey vs Michael Moorer @ 190 lb catchweight 
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Mar 2010, 17:25
by allworld80
Lockridge takes a UD off the overrated John
Cooper catches Mormeck early or loses late. I'm more inclined to think the latter.
Prime Basilio at 147 decisions Mosley in a razor thin affair.
Jack Dempsey vs Michael Moorer @ 190 lb catchweight 
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Mar 2010, 05:08
by Goodnight, Irene
Can't see Moorer surviving, & he's not damaging enough to olbiterate Dempsey early & neutralise the threat.
Dempsey, early & savage.
Gene Fullmer vs. Jake LaMotta at Middle. 15 rounds. Err, could get a little willing
D
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 15:47
by allworld80
It's Lamotta early, and Fullmer late. Lamotta stalks Gene for the entire fight, most of the time willing to eat two or three punches to land one. Both men are battered and bruised at then end though, but Fullmer's hand is raised in victory.
Joel Casamayor vs Manny Pacquiao @ 130
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 31 Mar 2010, 17:10
by Diamond WEAPON
Casamayor generally makes Pacquiao look ridiculous as Manny misses like crazy and Casamayor occasionally nails him with flush counters, on top of the dirty tricks (head leading, low blows, grappling) that Casamayor was known for and that Agapito Sanchez used to good effect against Pacquiao. Despite all of this though, Manny's endless stamina and consistent workrate allow him to lay enough leather on Casamayor in order to steal a very close decision.
Ricardo Lopez vs. Michael Carbajal (PrimevPrime)
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 06:15
by Goodnight, Irene
Diamond WEAPON wrote:Casamayor generally makes Pacquiao look ridiculous as Manny misses like crazy and Casamayor occasionally nails him with flush counters, on top of the dirty tricks (head leading, low blows, grappling) that Casamayor was known for and that Agapito Sanchez used to good effect against Pacquiao. Despite all of this though, Manny's endless stamina and consistent workrate allow him to lay enough leather on Casamayor in order to steal a very close decision.
Ricardo Lopez vs. Michael Carbajal (PrimevPrime)
Sadly, a fight which never was. An electric battle, but you can only have one winner. Give me Lopez on points. I've just never seen any better at that weight in my lifetime. Maybe at
any weight.
Jack Dempsey & Larry Holmes. 15 Rounds...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 07:12
by m1kee50
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Diamond WEAPON wrote:Casamayor generally makes Pacquiao look ridiculous as Manny misses like crazy and Casamayor occasionally nails him with flush counters, on top of the dirty tricks (head leading, low blows, grappling) that Casamayor was known for and that Agapito Sanchez used to good effect against Pacquiao. Despite all of this though, Manny's endless stamina and consistent workrate allow him to lay enough leather on Casamayor in order to steal a very close decision.
Ricardo Lopez vs. Michael Carbajal (PrimevPrime)
Sadly, a fight which never was. An electric battle, but you can only have one winner. Give me Lopez on points. I've just never seen any better at that weight in my lifetime. Maybe at
any weight.
Jack Dempsey & Larry Holmes. 15 Rounds...
IMO Holmes breaks Dempsey up with the jab over the course of the fight, although Dempsey gets inside and damages Holmes to the body, especially as Holmes tires... the late rounds maybe see Holmes holding on but his early work keeps him viable on the cards... ends up a draw.
My go:
Archie Moore (55-58) vs James Toney (2003, the Jirov fight)
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 15:06
by allworld80
I'm assuming this is at the current CW limit? I don't favor Toney's chances here, and it wouldnt surprise me if Moore stops him late. "Lights Out" was simply not as elusive at these higher weight classes, and Moore's punches would have bad intentions, unlike Jirov who was mainly a slapper at CW.
Moore TKO11
Napoles vs Trinidad @ 147
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 10 Apr 2010, 08:28
by hitman09
Napoles by late KO while well up on the cards.
Manny Pacquiao (current) vs Ray Leonard (Duran I vintage) 15 rds @147
Wilfredo Benitez vs Kostya Tzsyu 15 rds @140
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Apr 2010, 01:23
by SaadOffTheDeck
Holman by close but unanimous decision, I think it would take Cerdan a while to get anything going and it isn't like Holman is going to tire.
Danny Lopez vs Kevin Kelley 12rds
Jesus pimentel vs Lupe Pintor 12rds
Jake LaMotta vs Mike McCallum 15
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Apr 2010, 02:10
by SaadOffTheDeck
Holyfield TKO10
Ray Mancini vs Diego Corrales 12rds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Apr 2010, 03:25
by Goodnight, Irene
Mancini on a split.
2003: Acelino Freitas-Joel Casamayor return bout...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Apr 2010, 04:23
by m1kee50
I've always had more time for Casamayor out of the two... Casamayor demoralises and possibly roughs up Freitas to take it by the last 3-4 rounds...
James Toney vs Roy Jones Jr, 1996, 175lbs
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Apr 2010, 14:31
by SaadOffTheDeck
Jones by shutout
Tyrone Everett vs Alexis Arguello 15rds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 15 May 2010, 19:54
by hitman09
Curry wide UD.
One that's been on my mind lately:
Vicente Saldivar vs Azumah Nelson 15 rds Featherweight.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 15 May 2010, 20:51
by Tuff Customer
hitman09 wrote:Curry wide UD.
One that's been on my mind lately:
Vicente Saldivar vs Azumah Nelson 15 rds Featherweight.
Good one! I suspect the Professor squeaks by with hugely entertaining MD where both men hit the deck at least once.
MW Carlos Monzon Vs LHW Matthew Saad Muhhamad
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 15 May 2010, 20:53
by BoxBuzz
I suspect Nelson would do better than that.
As far as the Monzon Muhammad affair I think Monzon would win a UD against the bigger but less skilled Saad. But it would not be pretty.
Benny Bass vs Freddy Miller Feather weight fight.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 16 May 2010, 02:03
by HomicideHenry
Miller tko 11th bass..... how about, o'grady vs pazienza for 10 rounds, and terry downes vs paul williams for 12 rounds... specialty bout bob murphy vs bob satterfield @ 175 for 10 rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 17 May 2010, 22:47
by allworld80
Paz UD O'Grady
Williams SD Downes
Satterfield KO11 Murphy
A FW attraction card
Hamed vs Juan Manuel Marquez
Wilfredo Gomez vs Fenech
Chacon vs Juan Manuel Lopez
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 18 May 2010, 11:12
by Goodnight, Irene
Gomez & Chacon beat Fenech & Lopez.
Diosbelys Hurtado (1998) vs. Zab Judah (2001) at 140?
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 18 May 2010, 11:14
by hitman09
I suppose I'll take the others...
I'd go for Gomez to win a UD over Fenech, who I don't think was quite on his level.
Chacon KO 6 Lopez. Lopez as yet has not fought anywhere near that level, and hasn't the experience to stick around in this one.
Next up:
Eder Jofre vs Chacon at FW
Freddie Miller vs Battling Battalino at FW
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 18 May 2010, 11:16
by hitman09
Oops, too late.