Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 03 Jun 2009, 18:40


Expug wrote:Rick Farris wrote:Expug wrote:Arizona, you're right Rick.Lots of Chicagoans going there to escape the cold. Lotta retirees.
My Mother went there to try and get some relief from her emphysema. She wanted to stay the winter of 2001 there with her husband.(Not my Dad they divorced).
She went to Mesa. Problem was, she got much worse due to the air quality from construction or something I dont know.
She died there. Never made it back to Chicago.
Brian, my mother & stepfather bought a home in Chandler about a year before I moved to Tempe. Mesa, Chandler & Tempe are all next to each other, east of Phoenix. You are right about all of the construction and how it affected the air quality of Maricopa County. Soon after my mother moved to Chandler, she developed "Valley Fever" which was a congestive ailment. The doctor told her that the dust in the air from all of the construction in this fast developing region carries disease, and my mother suffered from it for a couple of years. After my stepfather passed away, my mother relocated to the Central Coast of California. There is a great misconception about the "fresh air" and healing quality of the Arizona atmosphere. This may have been true in years past, but today, the air is far from healthy. While in Az, I did meet a lot of Chicago transplants, made some good friends.
-Rick Farris
Rick, thanks for this info. This is important to me as at the time, my Mom was convinced that the air in Arizona would do her well. I had heard that there was some risk involved from the air situation due to construction etc. I didnt want her to go , but she was convinced.
It really turned into a fiasco as she declined pretty rapidly. It got to the point where she could not fly home as she was too weak and there was a risk of her flying.
The rest of the family was here in Chicago. It was a rough situation.
BoxBuzz wrote:As an Arizonan I can relate to the politics statement. Evan Mecham former Governor? Very much like Ross Perot but without the redeeming qualities. Although I have to say I did like Goldwater. Carl Hayden was good and I do like Senator Kyle. Sort of Liked Morris Udall as well. We had another Dem Governor that was a good too Raul Castro.
He did!?....Rick Farris wrote:BoxBuzz wrote:As an Arizonan I can relate to the politics statement. Evan Mecham former Governor? Very much like Ross Perot but without the redeeming qualities. Although I have to say I did like Goldwater. Carl Hayden was good and I do like Senator Kyle. Sort of Liked Morris Udall as well. We had another Dem Governor that was a good too Raul Castro.
Rob, I remember when Sheriff Joe ran for Governor. Now that was scary![]()
-Rick
You may be right, Rob. I guess the shock of such a possibility rattled me.BoxBuzz wrote:I thought that was just a threat....I thought he didnt' actually do it.
I just watched Lee Savold's 1951 bout with 36-year-old Joe Louis, on YouTube.kikibalt wrote:


You can always spot the "Snow Birds" coming down the highway.kikibalt wrote:The people that come to Arizona from the north during winter are called "Snow Birds".Expug wrote:Arizona, you're right Rick.Lots of Chicagoans going there to escape the cold. Lotta retirees.
My Mother went there to try and get some relief from her emphysema. She wanted to stay the winter of 2001 there with her husband.(Not my Dad they divorced).
She went to Mesa. Problem was, she got much worse due to the air quality from construction or something I dont know.
She died there. Never made it back to Chicago.
Nice tee Randy...Randyman wrote:I was cleaning out my closet today, looking for old shirts and pants, etc... to give to Good Will and I ran across this old teeshirt. I have had it for about twenty five years. I have never worn it. It was given to me by my friend Max Soto, brother to Larry and Max Soto. It was given to Max by Danny. It's somewhat of a collector's item.
Randy
Yep! thats'em....Rick Farris wrote:You can always spot the "Snow Birds" coming down the highway.kikibalt wrote:The people that come to Arizona from the north during winter are called "Snow Birds".Expug wrote:Arizona, you're right Rick.Lots of Chicagoans going there to escape the cold. Lotta retirees.
My Mother went there to try and get some relief from her emphysema. She wanted to stay the winter of 2001 there with her husband.(Not my Dad they divorced).
She went to Mesa. Problem was, she got much worse due to the air quality from construction or something I dont know.
She died there. Never made it back to Chicago.
They're the ones with the mega-sized motor homes, towing a small Saturn behind.
-Rick Farris
Brian, I'm sorry about your mother's passing as well as the circumstances. It had to be tough for you and the family. From what I know about you, she raised a good son. I'm sure she found contentment in that.Expug wrote:Rick Farris wrote:Expug wrote:Arizona, you're right Rick.Lots of Chicagoans going there to escape the cold. Lotta retirees.
My Mother went there to try and get some relief from her emphysema. She wanted to stay the winter of 2001 there with her husband.(Not my Dad they divorced).
She went to Mesa. Problem was, she got much worse due to the air quality from construction or something I dont know.
She died there. Never made it back to Chicago.
Brian, my mother & stepfather bought a home in Chandler about a year before I moved to Tempe. Mesa, Chandler & Tempe are all next to each other, east of Phoenix. You are right about all of the construction and how it affected the air quality of Maricopa County. Soon after my mother moved to Chandler, she developed "Valley Fever" which was a congestive ailment. The doctor told her that the dust in the air from all of the construction in this fast developing region carries disease, and my mother suffered from it for a couple of years. After my stepfather passed away, my mother relocated to the Central Coast of California. There is a great misconception about the "fresh air" and healing quality of the Arizona atmosphere. This may have been true in years past, but today, the air is far from healthy. While in Az, I did meet a lot of Chicago transplants, made some good friends.
-Rick Farris
Rick, thanks for this info. This is important to me as at the time, my Mom was convinced that the air in Arizona would do her well. I had heard that there was some risk involved from the air situation due to construction etc. I didnt want her to go , but she was convinced.
It really turned into a fiasco as she declined pretty rapidly. It got to the point where she could not fly home as she was too weak and there was a risk of her flying.
The rest of the family was here in Chicago. It was a rough situation.
The teeshirt is a lot like Danny. Simple, to the point, no fuss, no muss, with lots of red. They don't even make teeshirts like they used to.kikibalt wrote:Nice tee Randy...Randyman wrote:I was cleaning out my closet today, looking for old shirts and pants, etc... to give to Good Will and I ran across this old teeshirt. I have had it for about twenty five years. I have never worn it. It was given to me by my friend Max Soto, brother to Larry and Max Soto. It was given to Max by Danny. It's somewhat of a collector's item.
Randy, I had some of Tony and Frankie's, might still have one or two.
Pug...I don't think there is one of us here who didn't cost our parents sleepless nights, and they probably did the same when they were young, goes with the territory, you know, been young.Expug wrote:Thanks for the nice words Randy.
I was close to my Mom.
I look back though and realize I cost her some sleepless nights.Sometimes feel guilty.
She worried about me I know. I had a short fuse as a young guy. Fighting, raising hell.
Even on her death bed, with the people from hospice helping her, I can still hear her saying "Brian, Brian" dont do it".
See, I was beefing with some freakin golfer outside the patio door . He had told my daughter to get away from the fairway which the condo my Mom was renting was on.She was real young and down there saying goodbye to Grandma with me.
I chewed out this golfer pretty bad. Probably told him I was gonna throw him in the fake lake I dont know. What can I say?
But this kinda stuff happened alot. She loved me, but I think she thought I was nuts. She really hated boxing too. Couldnt understand it.
It really bothered her that I had some fights.
Thats the truth!kikibalt wrote:Pug...I don't think there is one of us here who didn't cost our parents sleepless nights, and they probably did the same when they were young, goes with the territory, you know, been young.Expug wrote:Thanks for the nice words Randy.
I was close to my Mom.
I look back though and realize I cost her some sleepless nights.Sometimes feel guilty.
She worried about me I know. I had a short fuse as a young guy. Fighting, raising hell.
Even on her death bed, with the people from hospice helping her, I can still hear her saying "Brian, Brian" dont do it".
See, I was beefing with some freakin golfer outside the patio door . He had told my daughter to get away from the fairway which the condo my Mom was renting was on.She was real young and down there saying goodbye to Grandma with me.
I chewed out this golfer pretty bad. Probably told him I was gonna throw him in the fake lake I dont know. What can I say?
But this kinda stuff happened alot. She loved me, but I think she thought I was nuts. She really hated boxing too. Couldnt understand it.
It really bothered her that I had some fights.
kikibalt wrote:
What kind of a fighter was Woodcock? I don't believe I ever seen any file of him.HomicideHenry wrote:kikibalt wrote:
Woodcock/Louis I always felt would have made for a good fight while it lasted.
Frank . . . I never saw the guy fight, but I imagine with the name "Woodcock", he was probably a "stiff".kikibalt wrote:What kind of a fighter was Woodcock? I don't believe I ever seen any file of him.HomicideHenry wrote:kikibalt wrote:
Woodcock/Louis I always felt would have made for a good fight while it lasted.