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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 10:35
by dagosd2000
Hey Frank
Where are all the great songs? The great voices? The classic arrangements?
The style is gone. Pretty soon I'll be sitting with my dad and mom at a club listening to Dean sing "On A Street Where You Live" and that street will be among the stars.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 10:41
by dagosd2000
Since Tom's Farms got farmed out for tomorrow,I'm going to take Maria and the kids on the Coaster up to Union Station. Walk around Olvera Street. If any of you guys are in the neighborhood,the tacos are on me.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 11:20
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:Hey Frank
Where are all the great songs? The great voices? The classic arrangements?
The style is gone. Pretty soon I'll be sitting with my dad and mom at a club listening to Dean sing "On A Street Where You Live" and that street will be among the stars.
Don't know Rog, You know that the so call "Oldies" were the songs of my youth, The R & B's from the late 1940's to early 1960's were imo the best, of course we are all products of our times, and as such we all think our times were the best, Who knows?

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 11:38
by Expug
dagosd2000 wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Speaking of trainers, and some natural boxers . . .

Emile Griffith was a natural boxer.
Gil Clancey saw it.
He could box, and punch, and think.

Griffith had a great jab. It kind of traveled upwards, slipping in from a lower angle.
A perfect set-up for the right to follow.
He had great combinations and sharp instincts.

You had to be good to beat Emile Griffith. Even at the end.


-Rick Farris
Rick
You're right about "even at the end." Emile was an amazing fighter. I read his biography that I bought at the WBHOF. Not to take anything away from my goomba,Jake The Bull,but Emile was a welter and middle weight champ .During the 60's he probably had the most impressive record in boxing.

But Emile wasn't a Raging Bull. His demeanor and personality wasn't prototype to what we think a fighter should be. A combination Manassa Mauler and Sugar Ray surrounded by glamorous gals.

Hey Rick old pal. When I saw Emile Griffith staring at the elevator in the basement at the WBHOF in the Marriott telling his friend that he was lost and scared,I wanted to tear something apart.

Emile Griffith lost and scared in a basement? It just ain't right.
Thats rough to hear about Emile.
I saw Emile struggle a little also. I asked him to sign an autograph on a hat for a Chicago Blackhawk player who likes boxing.
It was sad that he had to ask his friend who was with him, how to spell his name. I felt bad for Emile. But, he seemed happy that weekend . Emile is a good guy and he was a great fighter.
Later on I gave that player, who was later traded to Anaheim the hat. I explained to him who Emile was and so forth. The guy drew a blank.It was a waste of time .I should have known better. These kids dont have a sense of boxing history. He may have liked boxing but like a lot of things,he can only relate to it in terms of what happened 15 minutes ago.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 11:52
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Hey Frank
Where are all the great songs? The great voices? The classic arrangements?
The style is gone. Pretty soon I'll be sitting with my dad and mom at a club listening to Dean sing "On A Street Where You Live" and that street will be among the stars.
Don't know Rog, You know that the so call "Oldies" were the songs of my youth, The R & B's from the late 1940's to early 1960's were imo the best, of course we are all products of our times, and as such we all think our times were the best, Who knows?

Hell Frank
I like Beethoven too,and I wasn't around then. I grew up with the heavy metal stuff and now the rappers.Don't care for it. I ain't dead yet. If something comes along that I like,I'll grab on,but until it does, I'll look behind me for my music.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 11:54
by dagosd2000
Expug wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Speaking of trainers, and some natural boxers . . .

Emile Griffith was a natural boxer.
Gil Clancey saw it.
He could box, and punch, and think.

Griffith had a great jab. It kind of traveled upwards, slipping in from a lower angle.
A perfect set-up for the right to follow.
He had great combinations and sharp instincts.

You had to be good to beat Emile Griffith. Even at the end.


-Rick Farris
Rick
You're right about "even at the end." Emile was an amazing fighter. I read his biography that I bought at the WBHOF. Not to take anything away from my goomba,Jake The Bull,but Emile was a welter and middle weight champ .During the 60's he probably had the most impressive record in boxing.

But Emile wasn't a Raging Bull. His demeanor and personality wasn't prototype to what we think a fighter should be. A combination Manassa Mauler and Sugar Ray surrounded by glamorous gals.

Hey Rick old pal. When I saw Emile Griffith staring at the elevator in the basement at the WBHOF in the Marriott telling his friend that he was lost and scared,I wanted to tear something apart.

Emile Griffith lost and scared in a basement? It just ain't right.
Thats rough to hear about Emile.
I saw Emile struggle a little also. I asked him to sign an autograph on a hat for a Chicago Blackhawk player who likes boxing.
It was sad that he had to ask his friend who was with him, how to spell his name. I felt bad for Emile. But, he seemed happy that weekend . Emile is a good guy and he was a great fighter.
Later on I gave that player, who was later traded to Anaheim the hat. I explained to him who Emile was and so forth. The guy drew a blank.It was a waste of time .I should have known better. These kids dont have a sense of boxing history. He may have liked boxing but like a lot of things,he can only relate to it in terms of what happened 15 minutes ago.

Brian
That's why talking on the thread is so important to me. We won't let the Emile Griffiths be forgotten in the basement.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 12:08
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:"Louie J."

The first time I saw Louie J. was on television, from the Olympic Auditorium.
He was working the corner of a bantamweight, appearing in one of two amateur bouts proceeding the professional card.
His fighter's name was Victor "Butch" Contreras, and the cornerman had "Teamsters Gym" embroidered on the back of his white button-down shirt.

He was stocky, about fifty-years-old when I first met him, had a powerful build, not tall, but soild.
He was balding, wore glasses. He had a big smile, and a deep voice.
He co-founded the Los Angeles Jr. Golden Gloves program, along with Johnny Flores, after WW2.
He had been a boxer, and for decades a leader in Southern California amateur boxing.
Several of his better amateurs went to the top as pros, such as Armando Muniz and Frankie Duarte, and dozen's more whom he worked with.

Over the years I fought a number of boxers from the Teamster's Gym.
Louie knew who I was, and when I was 17, I was starting to grow and get strong. I was getting better, too.
In 1969, during the summer, I'm 17 and fight one of the Teamster's 23-year-old bantams, I weigh about 114lbs.
His name is Gabe Gutierrez and he's a pretty good fighter. We fight at the Olympic on a thursday night pro card, July 1969.
We have a close one, he get's the nod.

Three months later we fight again, this time at the China Lake Naval base.
I'm weighing about 117, and have two KO wins since our fight in July.
Louie knows I'm going to be a problem for his fighter. So do I.

We all meet somewhere downtown, I forget where. We load into a nice charter bus that will take boxers, coaches, etc. up into the high desert.
China Lake is above Edwards Air Force base, and Marty Denkin had a connection that allowed him to promote up there.
Over three months, Marty held two cards at the China Lake. This was the first.

We load into the bus and I park myself in a window seat. Plenty of room to stretch out a bit, get some rest during the ride.
My opponent was seated about three rows behind me, and his coach, Jouie J., beside him.
The bus starts to pull away and all of a sudden I feel this body slide into the seat next to mine.
It's Louie.

As I close my eyes to take a nap, Louie wakes me to tell me a joke. And another one, then gives me the history of L.A. Jr. Golden Gloves.
I know what he's doing. He talks the entire trip.
When I arrive, I am ready to fight. I didn't really need the nap, and the coach really screwed his fighter by trying to be smart.
My frame of mind had never been better for a fight.

I got no rest on my trip, but that didn't work out in Gabe Gutierrez's best interest. I kicked his ass pretty bad.
After the fight, I thanked Louie. I told him if it wasn't for his motivation on the bus, I wouldn't have beaten his fighter so easily.
By the way, Gabe Gutierrez and I would fight six times. Three in the amateurs and three in the pros.
After the first bout, Louie could not help him.

Last time I saw Louie across the ring from me was in 1972. I was training at Teamster's for a week, boxing with Armando Muniz for speed.
Louie and Mel Epstein would visit. He'd laugh out loud and say, "I known Ricky since he was a kid . . ."
I said to Louie, "Hey, remember that ride on the bus we took up to China Lake? You talked all the way up and then I kicked your fighter's ass."

Louie says, "Oh yeah".
We both laughed


-Rick Farris
Rick....Louie was a great guy, I met Louie around 1949, I remember Louie always telling jokes.
Another great Teamsters guy was old Joe Kelly, the door man, Kelly would sit by the door playing solitaire and drinking beer. Any non-boxing person who tried to get pass him with out paying 50 cent, he would kick their ass.
Frank . . . I remember Joe Kelly. He was a cranky old fart.
Frankie Duarte told me that when he started out, Joe Kelly told his dad that he couldn't fight.
Frankie proved him wrong.


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 12:14
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:"Louie J."

The first time I saw Louie J. was on television, from the Olympic Auditorium.
He was working the corner of a bantamweight, appearing in one of two amateur bouts proceeding the professional card.
His fighter's name was Victor "Butch" Contreras, and the cornerman had "Teamsters Gym" embroidered on the back of his white button-down shirt.

He was stocky, about fifty-years-old when I first met him, had a powerful build, not tall, but soild.
He was balding, wore glasses. He had a big smile, and a deep voice.
He co-founded the Los Angeles Jr. Golden Gloves program, along with Johnny Flores, after WW2.
He had been a boxer, and for decades a leader in Southern California amateur boxing.
Several of his better amateurs went to the top as pros, such as Armando Muniz and Frankie Duarte, and dozen's more whom he worked with.

Over the years I fought a number of boxers from the Teamster's Gym.
Louie knew who I was, and when I was 17, I was starting to grow and get strong. I was getting better, too.
In 1969, during the summer, I'm 17 and fight one of the Teamster's 23-year-old bantams, I weigh about 114lbs.
His name is Gabe Gutierrez and he's a pretty good fighter. We fight at the Olympic on a thursday night pro card, July 1969.
We have a close one, he get's the nod.

Three months later we fight again, this time at the China Lake Naval base.
I'm weighing about 117, and have two KO wins since our fight in July.
Louie knows I'm going to be a problem for his fighter. So do I.

We all meet somewhere downtown, I forget where. We load into a nice charter bus that will take boxers, coaches, etc. up into the high desert.
China Lake is above Edwards Air Force base, and Marty Denkin had a connection that allowed him to promote up there.
Over three months, Marty held two cards at the China Lake. This was the first.

We load into the bus and I park myself in a window seat. Plenty of room to stretch out a bit, get some rest during the ride.
My opponent was seated about three rows behind me, and his coach, Jouie J., beside him.
The bus starts to pull away and all of a sudden I feel this body slide into the seat next to mine.
It's Louie.

As I close my eyes to take a nap, Louie wakes me to tell me a joke. And another one, then gives me the history of L.A. Jr. Golden Gloves.
I know what he's doing. He talks the entire trip.
When I arrive, I am ready to fight. I didn't really need the nap, and the coach really screwed his fighter by trying to be smart.
My frame of mind had never been better for a fight.

I got no rest on my trip, but that didn't work out in Gabe Gutierrez's best interest. I kicked his ass pretty bad.
After the fight, I thanked Louie. I told him if it wasn't for his motivation on the bus, I wouldn't have beaten his fighter so easily.
By the way, Gabe Gutierrez and I would fight six times. Three in the amateurs and three in the pros.
After the first bout, Louie could not help him.

Last time I saw Louie across the ring from me was in 1972. I was training at Teamster's for a week, boxing with Armando Muniz for speed.
Louie and Mel Epstein would visit. He'd laugh out loud and say, "I known Ricky since he was a kid . . ."
I said to Louie, "Hey, remember that ride on the bus we took up to China Lake? You talked all the way up and then I kicked your fighter's ass."

Louie says, "Oh yeah".
We both laughed


-Rick Farris
Rick....Louie was a great guy, I met Louie around 1949, I remember Louie always telling jokes.
Another great Teamsters guy was old Joe Kelly, the door man, Kelly would sit by the door playing solitaire and drinking beer. Any non-boxing person who tried to get pass him with out paying 50 cent, he would kick their ass.
Frank . . . I remember Joe Kelly. He was a cranky old fart.
Frankie Duarte told me that when he started out, Joe Kelly told his dad that he couldn't fight.
Frankie proved him wrong.


-Rick Farris
He was, he was, but deep down he was a good ol' guy, you know that kelly owned the "Knoutout"
magazine after Don Fraser, that was mid-late 1950's.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 12:23
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:Speaking of trainers, and some natural boxers . . .

Emile Griffith was a natural boxer.
Gil Clancey saw it.
He could box, and punch, and think.

Griffith had a great jab. It kind of traveled upwards, slipping in from a lower angle.
A perfect set-up for the right to follow.
He had great combinations and sharp instincts.

You had to be good to beat Emile Griffith. Even at the end.


-Rick Farris
Rick
You're right about "even at the end." Emile was an amazing fighter. I read his biography that I bought at the WBHOF. Not to take anything away from my goomba,Jake The Bull,but Emile was a welter and middle weight champ .During the 60's he probably had the most impressive record in boxing.

But Emile wasn't a Raging Bull. His demeanor and personality wasn't prototype to what we think a fighter should be. A combination Manassa Mauler and Sugar Ray surrounded by glamorous gals.

Hey Rick old pal. When I saw Emile Griffith staring at the elevator in the basement at the WBHOF in the Marriott telling his friend that he was lost and scared,I wanted to tear something apart.

Emile Griffith lost and scared in a basement? It just ain't right.
Roger . . . When you told us that you had seen him in the basement, the look in your eyes expressed your feelings.

Emile Griffith was my first "favorite fighter", not long before the Olympic began to televise bouts in the mid-60's
He was always smiling and light hearted outside the ring.
Inside the ring he could be whatever he had to be to win, and despite the fact all fighters take blows, his personal damage was minimal.
Emile could box, and he could punch. After the Paret fight, he stopped following up when he'd have a guy in trouble.
He'd do enough to win on points.

You know, Mando Muniz has buzzed this forum and showed interest in posting. I need to pull him in here for a few days.
Here is a friend of ours who has toe'd the mark with Griffith.
I fought on the undercard of that Janaury 29, 1972 card at the Anaheim Convention Center.
Mando had been a pro about 18 months, and had already achieved world ranking. He fought Emile hard, but Griffith was the "Professor" that night.

How I miss not having anything close to Emile Griffith in the ring today.


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 13:14
by kikibalt
The ex-con says hello

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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 13:21
by dagosd2000
Image

THE PRAYER

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 13:22
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:The ex-con says hello

Image
Looks like he's enjoying his parole :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 13:26
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:The ex-con says hello

Image
Looks like he's enjoying his parole :lol:
He has to check in with his P.O today and take a piss test... :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 15:46
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:The ex-con says hello

Image
Looks like he's enjoying his parole :lol:
He has to check in with his P.O today and take a piss test... :lol:

He's got that "Don't mess with me" look in his eyes.
He's seen it all. The vatos, woods, miyates. Jail food, the guards
Chata has "walked the walk", and even had the kennel cough to prove it.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 15:51
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
kikibalt wrote:The ex-con says hello

Image
Looks like he's enjoying his parole :lol:
He has to check in with his P.O today and take a piss test... :lol:

He's got that "Don't mess with me" look in his eyes.
He's seen it all. The vatos, woods, miyates. Jail food, the guards
Chata has "walked the walk", and even had the kennel cough to prove it.
Rick, thats Charlie the "Ex- Con" not chata..... :o

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 18:28
by Rick Farris
Rick, thats Charlie the "Ex- Con" not chata..... :o-
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

That's right. I forgot that Charlie was the convict.
I hope he doesn't take my calling him "Chata" as disrespect. :bow:
Ex-cons have a thing about respect. He might put his crew on me.
I hope Chata didn't feel disrespected bing mistaken for a common criminal? :o
I can't win. :witzend:


-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 18:45
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:Since Tom's Farms got farmed out for tomorrow,I'm going to take Maria and the kids on the Coaster up to Union Station. Walk around Olvera Street. If any of you guys are in the neighborhood,the tacos are on me.
Rog...Since you are going to come up to Olvera St. and Union Station, why not go one block north of Union Station to Phillipe's, home of the original french dipped sandwich, I never been there, but I being told by Randy that its a great place to go for a sandwich.

"1001 N.Alameda St."

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 18:48
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:Rick, thats Charlie the "Ex- Con" not chata..... :o-
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

That's right. I forgot that Charlie was the convict.
I hope he doesn't take my calling him "Chata" as disrespect. :bow:
Ex-cons have a thing about respect. He might put his crew on me.
I hope Chata didn't feel disrespected bing mistaken for a common criminal? :o
I can't win. :witzend:


-Rick
Rick...Chata is cool, she don't mind being taken for a common criminal.... :D

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 20:34
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Since Tom's Farms got farmed out for tomorrow,I'm going to take Maria and the kids on the Coaster up to Union Station. Walk around Olvera Street. If any of you guys are in the neighborhood,the tacos are on me.
Rog...Since you are going to come up to Olvera St. and Union Station, why not go one block north of Union Station to Phillipe's, home of the original french dipped sandwich, I never been there, but I being told by Randy that its a great place to go for a sandwich.

"1001 N.Alameda St."

Frank
Will do.Let me know if you and Connie want a Franch Dip...sandwich that is. Rog :D

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 20:56
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Since Tom's Farms got farmed out for tomorrow,I'm going to take Maria and the kids on the Coaster up to Union Station. Walk around Olvera Street. If any of you guys are in the neighborhood,the tacos are on me.
Rog...Since you are going to come up to Olvera St. and Union Station, why not go one block north of Union Station to Phillipe's, home of the original french dipped sandwich, I never been there, but I being told by Randy that its a great place to go for a sandwich.

"1001 N.Alameda St."

Frank
Will do.Let me know if you and Connie want a Franch Dip...sandwich that is. Rog :D
Roger . . . I wish I could meet you at Phillippe's. My paternal grandmother worked there for decades, as a cashier.
She died several years after retiring. She was 103 when she passed away. Needless to say she worked well past age 65.
The place has saw dust on the floor, great French dipped sandwiches that are well priced. Good desserts.

When I was a teenager, my Grandfather and I would stop by after I trained at Main Street Gym.
Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez was also a regular.
Aside from adding a little to the menu, the food hasn't changed.
Good call, Frank :TU:


-Rick

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 22:07
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Since Tom's Farms got farmed out for tomorrow,I'm going to take Maria and the kids on the Coaster up to Union Station. Walk around Olvera Street. If any of you guys are in the neighborhood,the tacos are on me.
Rog...Since you are going to come up to Olvera St. and Union Station, why not go one block north of Union Station to Phillipe's, home of the original french dipped sandwich, I never been there, but I being told by Randy that its a great place to go for a sandwich.

"1001 N.Alameda St."


Frank
Will do.Let me know if you and Connie want a Franch Dip...sandwich that is. Rog :D
Roger . . . I wish I could meet you at Phillippe's. My paternal grandmother worked there for decades, as a cashier.
She died several years after retiring. She was 103 when she passed away. Needless to say she worked well past age 65.
The place has saw dust on the floor, great French dipped sandwiches that are well priced. Good desserts.

When I was a teenager, my Grandfather and I would stop by after I trained at Main Street Gym.
Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez was also a regular.
Aside from adding a little to the menu, the food hasn't changed.
Good call, Frank :TU:


-Rick
Rog...Connie and I are going to a family BBQ, (her famliy) on a late notice, we'll be dog crap if we don't show up, I'l take my lap top and be on my computer as Connie talks to her famliy, they are ok, but we don't have much in commom.

Rick...You know that after living all my life in and around L.A., I have never been to Philippe's, I have heard about the place for over 50 years, just never got around to going there, maybe one day soon.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 22:19
by kikibalt
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"Going up to her, Don said, "Are you going across?"

"The old lady took his arm and started off. At the other side, the old lady turned to Don and said, "There you are, my dear, you are quite safe now. But never be afraid to ask anyone to help you across.'"
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-Next time, ask a boy scout, Don. They don't give you all that lip.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 22:24
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:Since Tom's Farms got farmed out for tomorrow,I'm going to take Maria and the kids on the Coaster up to Union Station. Walk around Olvera Street. If any of you guys are in the neighborhood,the tacos are on me.
Rog...Since you are going to come up to Olvera St. and Union Station, why not go one block north of Union Station to Phillipe's, home of the original french dipped sandwich, I never been there, but I being told by Randy that its a great place to go for a sandwich.

"1001 N.Alameda St."

Frank
Will do.Let me know if you and Connie want a Franch Dip...sandwich that is. Rog :D

Philippe The Original is one of the oldest and best known restaurants in Southern California. Philippe's was established in 1908 by Philippe Mathieu, who claimed the distinction of having created the "French Dipped Sandwich". One day in 1918, while making a sandwich, Mathieu inadvertently dropped the sliced French roll into the roasting pan filled with juice still hot from the oven. The patron, a policeman, said he would take the sandwich anyway and returned the next day with some friends asking for more dipped sandwiches. And so was born the "French Dipped Sandwich", so called either because of Mathieu's French heritage, the French roll the sandwich is made on or because the officer's name was French. The answer is lost to history.
Harry, Dave and Frank Martin were in the business of renting horses and wagons from their Jewel stables when they purchased Philippe's from Mathieu in 1927 for around $5000. They operated the restaurant 24 hours a day, 7 days a week until World War II. The business grew steadily through the depression of 1929 and World War II mainly by virtue of the dedication and perseverance to duty of the hardy Kansans.

Philippe's was forced to more to make way for the then new Hollywood-Santa Ana 101 freeway, and in 1951 relocated to the present location, which was a machine shop with a hotel on the second floor. Change does not come rapidly at Philippe's, so most of what we are today is very much what we were and did years ago. We like to say that only the prices have changed.

Philippe's "Frenched Dipped Sandwich" is the specialty of the house and consists of either roast beet, roast pork, leg of lamb, turkey or ham served on a lightly textured, freshly baked French roll which has been dipped in the natural gravy of the roasts. Swiss, American, Monterey Jack or Blue cheese may be added. To accompany your sandwich we offer a tart, tangy coleslaw, homemade potato and macaroni salads, hard boiled eggs pickled in beet juice and spices, large Kosher style, sour dill or sweet pickles, black olives and hot yellow chili peppers. Philippe's prepares and serves close to 300 pounds of pigs feet every week.

We prepared about 40 gallons or our own hot mustard twice weekly. It is best used sparingly as it is a truly very hot French mustard. However, used with discretion, it compliments then sandwich to perfection. It may be purchased by the jar at the front candy counter.

Delicious beef stew is prepared daily made from choice beet and fresh vegetables; two soup selections are offered each day, as well as out chili and beans.

Lemonade, iced tea, milk mineral and seltzer waters, and a variety of soft drinks are served. Domestic and imported beers, our house wines and several premium wines by the glass and bottle are offered.

To top off your meal at Philippe's, try one of our desserts. A large variety of cream and fruit pies are offered daily. In addition, we have ice cream, New York style cheesecake, our baked apples, custard, tapioca, and fresh fruit.

Hearty breakfast are served from 6:00a.m. To 10:30a.m. Daily. Some of our breakfast items include eggs(any style), bacon, sausage, ham, corned beef hash and our own fried potatoes. Ask for our fresh homemake salsa for the egg dishes. In addition, omelets, cinnamon French toast, pancakes, and a variety of fruits and juices are offered. Coffee is included with most breakfasts. Featured are our biscuits, cinnamon streusel coffee cake, cinnamon rolls, donuts and muffins, all baked in-house.

The price of a cup of coffee remained a nickel until 1977, when it increased 100%, to a dime.

The way service works in unique. There is a long display counter with 10 servers, (we call them "Carvers"), many of which have been working at Philippe's well over 20 years. Each Carver has everything she needs to prepare your meal. You get into one of the 10 lines, and when you reach your Carver, she can take care of your whole meal; make your sandwich or fix your hot dish, serve the salads or soup, give you coffee or a glass or wine, add it all up and take your money. The plates are paper, the service is fast. There are ceiling fas, neon soft drink and beer signs, sawdust on the floor, a few booths and long wooden tables with stools. Seating is family style. It is not unusual to sit with peopple from all walks of life at the same table. There are press clippings and civic citations on the walls, and you can weight yourself on the same scale that was used by Norman Rockwell for trhe Saturday Evening Post. You can make yourself at home.

In 1951, when Philippe's closed its doors on Aliso Street, Matt Weinstock, then a report for the Los Angeles Daily News wrote "... Philippe's was something special. It had sawdust on the floor and cracks in the wall but you didn't care. You went there for the luscious French-dipped sandwich, the boiled eggs, the hot mustard, the potato salad, the coleslaw, the immense hunks of pie, the always hot mugs of coffee. You also work up at night, maybe thousands of miles away, yearning for one of those sandwiches."

More than 35 years later, Merrill Shindler of the Los Angeles Herald Examiner wrote, "... Philippe's is more than food. It's one of those marvelous phenomenon's I find myself constantly drawn to in an effort to connect with a bit of L.A.'s too often ignored past... What can I say? It's Philippe's. It's the Original—and it always will be."

And finally, MacDonald Harris of the New York Times ("Real food in L.A.," March 1990) wrote, "There is an air of camaraderie among the customers, a kind of unspoken friendliness and consideration that's rare in a big city...the customers are people of all kinds: shoppers, residents of nearby Chinatown, businessmen, Amtrak workers from the station, people who have been coming here for years and are now brining their children. More than any other place I can think of, Philippe's typifies the democratic spirit Los Angeles..."

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 22:24
by dagosd2000
A RING GALLERY

I was listening to Wynton Marsalis on XM Radio interviewing tenor sax player Joe Temperley today. They were discussing the "personalities" of sounds emitted from horn players in the world of jazz. Each sound a musician makes is his "own." The vibrato,tone,pitch,phrasing,loudness,are recognizable with each musician. It just comes out that way. That's the way he wants to play. Maybe he's not even aware of the sound he's making,but it's his sound.

Oh yeah,that's Coltrane. Yep that's Bird. Can't mistake Coleman Hawkins. Lester Young without a doubt.

Other musicians try to "ape' the great ones,but you can't be great by copying, even though it's a form of flattery.

Boxers are similar,especially the great ones. Let's turn down the lights and just look at the shadows of the all time best in the ring. You tell me you couldn't recognize the shadow of Ray Robinson? How about Jose Napoles? Roberto Duran in his prime. Jack Dempsey.The Brown Bomber.


Like great musicians, fighters have their own identifiable greatness in the ring. A presence. An artistry of movement. HBO put together a score of Wynton Marsalis's solos together with Sugar Ray Robinson's fight footage for his documentary.

Now who ever thought of that idea had an aesthetic appreciation.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 06 Jun 2009, 22:29
by kikibalt
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