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The Thrilla in Manila:

Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier III (10-01-1975)

R1: 10-9 Ali
R2: 10-9 Frazier
R3: 10-10 Even
R4: 10-9 Ali
R5: 10-9 Frazier
R6: 10-9 Frazier
R7: 10-9 Ali
R8: 10-9 Frazier
R9: 10-10 Even
R10: 10-9 Ali
R11: 10-9 Ali
R12: 10-9 Frazier
R13: 10-9 Ali
R14: 10-9 Ali
Ali wins by retirement

I took the chance this morning to rewatch the fight. That would be 135-133 at the time of the retirement, with Ali up by two points. That is 7-5-2 in rounds. It was 5-5-2 after 12 rounds, with Ali taking both the 13th and the 14th rounds. Slightly closer than I had it the last time I saw it, but still with Frazier down by two rounds at the time of the retirement.

Errol Spence vs. Terrence Crawford (7/29/2023)

R1: 10-9 Spence
R2: 10-8 Crawford
R3: 10-9 Crawford
R4: 10-9 Crawford
R5: 10-9 Crawford
R6: 10-9 Crawford
R7: 10-7 Crawford
R8: 10-9 Crawford
R9: Crawford wins by TKO

I just watched the WBA Heavyweight Championship fight between Tony Tubbs and Tim Witherspoon again. What a ferocious war. It is a very difficult fight to score and it is very close. My card ended up going to Witherspoon, by a single point, which aligns with the decision, which was a Majority decision in his favor. Had Tubbs just boxed Witherspoon more he would have taken the decision, I think. When he boxed and used his skill, I felt as though he was winning. He ended up narrowly losing this fight coming out the slightly worse in the litany of exchanges in this fight, as the punch stats reflect. This fight kicked off the Heavyweight unification series of ‘86-‘87.

Tony Tubbs vs. Tim Witherspoon (1-17-1986)

R1: 10-9 Tubbs
R2: 10-9 Witherspoon
R3: 10-9 Tubbs
R4: 10-9 Witherspoon
R5: 10-10 Even
R6: 10-9 Tubbs
R7: 10-9 Witherspoon
R8: 10-9 Witherspoon
R9: 10-9 Tubbs
R10: 10-9 Tubbs
R11: 10-10 Even
R12: 10-9 Witherspoon
R13: 10-9 Witherspoon
R14: 10-9 Tubbs
R15: 10-9 Witherspoon

144-143 Witherspoon

One of my all-time favorite fights. The first Ward-Kovalev fight. I just watched it again for the second time. The first time I scored it 115-112 to Ward, but I don’t recall how exactly the rounds broke. I just watched it again and rescored it 114-113 for Ward. Just an epic and brilliant fight.

Sergey Kovalev vs. Andre Ward I (11-19-2016)

R1: 10-9 Ward
R2: 10-8 Kovalev
R3: 10-9 Kovalev
R4: 10-9 Kovalev
R5: 10-9 Kovalev
R6: 10-9 Ward
R7: 10-9 Ward
R8: 10-9 Ward
R9: 10-9 Ward
R10: 10-9 Kovalev
R11: 10-9 Ward
R12: 10-9 Ward

114-113 Ward

2354595 wrote: ↑08 Mar 2026, 13:03 Cassius Clay vs. Sonny Liston I (2-25-1964)

R1: 10-9 Clay
R2: 10-9 Clay
R3: 10-9 Clay
R4: 10-9 Clay
R5: 10-9 Liston
R6: 10-9 Clay
Clay wins by retirement after the 6th round

That is how I scored it. Liston won the round where Ali could not see. That was it. The rounds were easy to score. Yet one judge had it even and one had Liston up by three points. Always wondering what people were watching.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑10 Mar 2026, 17:43

2354595 wrote: ↑08 Mar 2026, 13:03 Cassius Clay vs. Sonny Liston I (2-25-1964)

R1: 10-9 Clay
R2: 10-9 Clay
R3: 10-9 Clay
R4: 10-9 Clay
R5: 10-9 Liston
R6: 10-9 Clay
Clay wins by retirement after the 6th round

That is how I scored it. Liston won the round where Ali could not see. That was it. The rounds were easy to score. Yet one judge had it even and one had Liston up by three points. Always wondering what people were watching.

Do you have the cards on a rounds basis?

Ali completely outclassed Liston in the first round. The second was close, but I still gave it to Ali. I thought that Ali took the third pretty clearly, with the fourth again being a shade closer, but I gave to Ali on the basis of his combinations and outlanding Liston. Ali just moved in the fifth, as he couldn’t see and the sixth was not close, with Ali cutting Liston up pretty badly.

Yeah.
Round 1 10-9 Clay
Round 2 10-9 Clay
Round 3 10-9 clay
Round 4 10-9 Clay
Round 5 10-9 Liston
Round 6 10-9 Clay

59-55.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑10 Mar 2026, 19:24 Yeah.
Round 1 10-9 Clay
Round 2 10-9 Clay
Round 3 10-9 clay
Round 4 10-9 Clay
Round 5 10-9 Liston
Round 6 10-9 Clay

59-55.

I have the same card as you.

I meant do you know the Judges cards on a rounds basis? I appreciate your card, as well, though.

Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev II (6-17-2017)

R1: 10-9 Kovalev
R2: 10-9 Ward
R3: 10-9 Ward
R4: 10-9 Ward
R5: 10-9 Ward
R6: 10-9 Kovalev
R7: 10-9 Ward
R8: Ward wins by TKO

What a stunning performance from Andre Ward.

2354595 wrote: ↑10 Mar 2026, 19:54

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑10 Mar 2026, 19:24 Yeah.
Round 1 10-9 Clay
Round 2 10-9 Clay
Round 3 10-9 clay
Round 4 10-9 Clay
Round 5 10-9 Liston
Round 6 10-9 Clay

59-55.

I have the same card as you.

I meant do you know the Judges cards on a rounds basis? I appreciate your card, as well, though.

According to the boxrec database, it was scored on the 10 point must: https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Sonny ... t_meeting)

However, I have always wondered if that is right. Guess it doesn't matter much.

Roberto Duran vs Victor Claudio

1. Duran
2. Claudio
3. Claudio
4. Duran
5. Duran
6. Claudio
7. Claudio *
8. Duran
9. Duran 10-8
10. Duran

96-93 Roberto Duran

Roberto Duran vs Jorge Castro

1. Castro
2. Castro
3. Duran
4. Duran *
5. Castro
6. Castro
7. Duran
8. Duran
9. Castro *
10. Castro

96-94 Jorge Castro

Roberto Duran vs Jimmy Batten

1. Duran
2. Batten
3. Duran
4. Duran
5. Duran
6. Duran
7. Duran
8. Batten
9. Duran
10. Duran

98-92 Roberto Duran

Erik Morales vs. Marco Antonio Barrera I (2-19-2000)

R1: 10-9 Barrera
R2: 10-9 Barrera
R3: 10-9 Morales
R4: 10-9 Barrera
R5: 10-9 Morales
R6: 10-9 Morales
R7: 10-9 Morales
R8: 10-9 Barrera
R9: 10-9 Morales
R10: 10-9 Barrera
R11: 10-9 Barrera
R12: 10-8 Barrera

115-112 Barrera

Barrera steals the fight on my card in the last three rounds.

Roberto Duran vs Edwin Viruet 2

1. Duran
2. Duran
3. Duran
4. Viruet
5. Duran
6. Viruet
7. Duran
8. Duran
9. Duran
10. Duran
11. Duran
12. Duran
13. Duran
14. Duran
15. Duran

They were using the 5 point must system, so I believe my score would've been 73-62 for Duran.

It's 13 rounds to 2. So Duran is the wide winner under whatever system you wanna use to score it.

Roberto Duran vs Ricky Stackhouse

1. Duran
2. Duran
3. Duran
4. Duran
5. Duran
6. Duran (10-8)
7. Duran
8. Duran (10-8)
9. Duran
10. Stackhouse

99-89 Duran

Roberto Duran vs Ray Domenge

1. Duran
2. Duran
3. Duran *
4. Duran
5. Duran
6. Domenge
7. Duran
8. Duran
9. Duran
10. Duran.

99-91 Duran

Roberto Duran vs Hector Camacho

1. Camacho
2. Camacho
3. Duran
4. Duran
5. Camacho *
6. Duran
7. Duran
8. Duran
9. Camacho
10. Camacho
11. Camacho
12. Camacho *

115-113 Hector Camacho

Old man Duran fought well here.

Roberto Duran vs Hector Camacho 2

1. Camacho
2. Camacho
3. Camacho
4. Camacho
5. Camacho
6. Camacho
7. Duran 10-8
8. Camacho
9. Camacho
10. Camacho
11. Camacho
12. Camacho

118-109 Camacho

Roberto Duran vs Jorge Castro 2

1. Castro
2. Duran
3. Castro
4. Castro
5. Castro
6. Duran
7. Duran
8. Duran *
9. Duran *
10. Duran

96-94 Roberto Duran

This is a really underrated win for Roberto. Close fight, could've easily been a draw, but they were in Panama City, and what the hell, the old man really did do well.

Check out Duran v Viruet I, if I remember right 3 posters had Viruet winning.

Seamus wrote: ↑12 Mar 2026, 07:29 Check out Duran v Viruet I, if I remember right 3 posters had Viruet winning.

Question for you:

Do you know whether the full fights between Joe Louis and Jersey Joe Walcott have survived? I mean the full fights.

According to AI the answer is yes. Daily Motion might have it. I've only ever watched highlights

Seamus wrote: ↑12 Mar 2026, 08:58 According to AI the answer is yes. Daily Motion might have it. I've only ever watched highlights

I will keep looking. Ty.

Seamus wrote: ↑12 Mar 2026, 07:29 Check out Duran v Viruet I, if I remember right 3 posters had Viruet winning.

I didn't score it as I watched, but I did watch that one back a while back. It was definitely a lot closer than their rematch was. Duran had a close fight with a little known guy named Jeff Lanas as well.