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Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 07 Jun 2011, 12:53
by JCS
@matt___s wrote:Is there anyone who fought the same opponent for their first and last fight? Careers longer than 10 fights, say.
Now that'd be a strange one...

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 07 Jun 2011, 20:00
by Blue
Asterix wrote:
JCS wrote:
Asterix wrote:Maybe Boxrec should have a tool (for the editors) that highlights blatan errors. For instance, there's no way Bert Ikin W 4 (KO 1) - L 15 (KO 8) - D 0 weighed in at 1957¾ lbs.

Same issue with Arthur Pearson W 3 (KO 2) - L 3 (KO 0) - D 1, and so on...
I did some data validation w/ scorecards before, but the editors didn't seem too interesting in resolving them. I offered to do some clean-up work but JohnShep declined -- guess I'm not trustworthy enough. I don't really have the time these days anyhow.
That's a shame. It doesn't look good when you see blatant typos.
Corrections entered; :TU:
Please post links to all "blatant typos" in the Record Queries Forum.

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 06:01
by Asterix
Blue wrote:
Asterix wrote:
JCS wrote: I did some data validation w/ scorecards before, but the editors didn't seem too interesting in resolving them. I offered to do some clean-up work but JohnShep declined -- guess I'm not trustworthy enough. I don't really have the time these days anyhow.
That's a shame. It doesn't look good when you see blatant typos.
Corrections entered; :TU:
Please post links to all "blatant typos" in the Record Queries Forum.
No offence, but that's a stupid request. These errors can be told to you by a piece of software. There's no point in anyone putting effort into letting you know about them.

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 17:37
by Blue
:confused: The typos mentioned do-not-affect the ratings. (Topic)
The piece of software you mention is-not-in-place.

The time and effort it took both of you to whine on this
forum about BoxRec could have been used to post in the
proper forum (Record Queries)

:wink: Stupid is…as Stupid does. :TU:

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 20:02
by Asterix
Blue wrote: :confused: The typos mentioned do-not-affect the ratings. (Topic)
The piece of software you mention is-not-in-place.

The time and effort it took both of you to whine on this
forum about BoxRec could have been used to post in the
proper forum (Record Queries)

:wink: Stupid is…as Stupid does. :TU:
Please stop being childish.

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 05 Jul 2011, 03:09
by computerrank
@ruben

your post:

Hi as a great supporter of boxing i find myself wondering where your ratings are coming from and how you come up with your updates. Martin Rogan heavyweight has came back from injury and has had two sucessful wins, he was ranked four by yourselfs now you have moved him into tenth and a 1oo odds in the world. How can you explain this Sam sexton, has not fought in ten months and has two loses also but yet he is number three in british boxrec ratings and also Rogan retired in his second fight not tko as in first fight doc called a halt not tko please do yourselfs a massive favour if you follow boxing dont guess get it right very disappointing i must say as a fan of Rogan and of boxing. I look forward to your reply should be interesting. Ruben.


my answer:

Martin Rogan had 306 points after his win against Matt Skelton on 2009-02-28.

He lost 127 points in his first loss and another 50 points in his second loss against Sam Sexton - and then was at 129 points.

After this he defeated 2 boxers, who had only 2 points, and got no further additional points for this.

According to the Boxrec ratings rule of missing opponent quality he lost another 62 points on 2011-05-06, 18 months after missing to fight a boxer of at least 50% of his own rating. His last quality bout was against Sam Sexton on 2009-11-06.

So Martin Rogan is now at 67 points.

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 09:58
by JCS
Marlin,

This would be an interesting query.

Oldest boxer in each division to win a major championship fight. Just go with WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO.... maybe a second time add IBO to see if it makes a difference.

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 11:54
by computerrank
JCS wrote:Marlin,

This would be an interesting query.

Oldest boxer in each division to win a major championship fight. Just go with WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO.... maybe a second time add IBO to see if it makes a difference.
top 100

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| date       | last_name | first_name   | division            | age     | title |
+------------+-----------+--------------+---------------------+---------+-------+
| 1995-04-22 | Foreman   | George       | Heavyweight         | 46.2792 | IBF   |
| 1994-11-05 | Foreman   | George       | Heavyweight         | 45.8192 | WBA   |
| 1994-11-05 | Foreman   | George       | Heavyweight         | 45.8192 | IBF   |
| 2001-10-06 | Djelti    | Affif        | Super Featherweight | 42.1120 | IBO   |
| 1997-12-19 | Malinga   | Thulani      | Super Middleweight  | 42.0244 | WBC   |
| 2006-06-10 | Hopkins   | Bernard      | Light Heavyweight   | 41.4002 | IBO   |
| 2000-10-28 | Djelti    | Affif        | Super Featherweight | 41.1729 | IBO   |
| 2000-07-01 | Djelti    | Affif        | Super Featherweight | 40.8471 | IBO   |
| 2000-02-26 | Djelti    | Affif        | Super Featherweight | 40.5021 | IBO   |
| 1999-04-10 | Hearns    | Thomas       | Cruiserweight       | 40.4775 | IBO   |
| 2004-09-10 | Thompson  | Carl         | Cruiserweight       | 40.2941 | IBO   |
| 1996-03-02 | Malinga   | Thulani      | Super Middleweight  | 40.2256 | WBC   |
| 2004-02-06 | Thompson  | Carl         | Cruiserweight       | 39.6999 | IBO   |
| 2010-09-04 | Lazarte   | Luis Alberto | Light Flyweight     | 39.5055 | IBF   |
| 2008-04-12 | Tarver    | Antonio      | Light Heavyweight   | 39.3905 | IBF   |
| 2008-04-12 | Tarver    | Antonio      | Light Heavyweight   | 39.3905 | IBO   |
| 1997-04-14 | Zaragoza  | Daniel       | Super Bantamweight  | 39.3413 | WBC   |
| 2010-05-29 | Lazarte   | Luis Alberto | Light Flyweight     | 39.2372 | IBF   |
| 1977-10-30 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 39.2153 | WBC   |
| 2000-04-08 | Grant     | Uriah        | Cruiserweight       | 39.2153 | IBO   |
| 2008-10-24 | Fragomeni | Giacobbe     | Cruiserweight       | 39.1989 | WBC   |
| 1977-09-18 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 39.1003 | WBC   |
| 2010-09-18 | N'dou     | Lovemore     | Welterweight        | 39.0921 | IBO   |
| 1997-01-11 | Zaragoza  | Daniel       | Super Bantamweight  | 39.0866 | WBC   |
| 2007-12-01 | Tarver    | Antonio      | Light Heavyweight   | 39.0264 | IBO   |
| 1977-08-21 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 39.0237 | WBC   |
| 1977-07-17 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 38.9278 | WBC   |
| 2010-05-29 | Klitschko | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 38.8621 | WBC   |
| 1977-05-15 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 38.7553 | WBC   |
| 1996-07-20 | Zaragoza  | Daniel       | Super Bantamweight  | 38.6075 | WBC   |
| 2007-06-09 | Tarver    | Antonio      | Light Heavyweight   | 38.5473 | IBO   |
| 2009-12-12 | Klitschko | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 38.4021 | WBC   |
| 2008-03-27 | Phillips  | Verno        | Light Middleweight  | 38.3255 | IBF   |
| 1976-11-21 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 38.2762 | WBC   |
| 1967-11-17 | Tiger     | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 38.2598 | WBA   |
| 1967-11-17 | Tiger     | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 38.2598 | WBC   |
| 1996-03-03 | Zaragoza  | Daniel       | Super Bantamweight  | 38.2269 | WBC   |
| 1995-02-25 | McCallum  | Mike         | Light Heavyweight   | 38.2187 | WBC   |
| 2003-03-29 | Hopkins   | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 38.1995 | IBF   |
| 2003-03-29 | Hopkins   | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 38.1995 | WBC   |
| 2009-09-26 | Klitschko | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 38.1913 | WBC   |
| 1976-09-26 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 38.1229 | WBC   |
| 2008-05-31 | Mbityi    | Zolile       | Super Flyweight     | 37.9887 | IBO   |
| 1976-07-18 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 37.9312 | WBC   |
| 2009-07-11 | N'dou     | Lovemore     | Welterweight        | 37.9038 | IBO   |
| 1995-11-06 | Zaragoza  | Daniel       | Super Bantamweight  | 37.9038 | WBC   |
| 1996-06-01 | Nelson    | Azumah       | Super Featherweight | 37.8710 | WBC   |
| 1992-03-21 | Londas    | Daniel       | Super Featherweight | 37.8463 | WBO   |
| 2000-08-12 | Holyfield | Evander      | Heavyweight         | 37.8162 | WBA   |
| 2003-06-21 | Lewis     | Lennox       | Heavyweight         | 37.7998 | WBC   |
| 2003-06-21 | Lewis     | Lennox       | Heavyweight         | 37.7998 | IBO   |
| 2006-12-10 | Maskaev   | Oleg         | Heavyweight         | 37.7752 | WBC   |
| 1967-05-16 | Tiger     | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 37.7533 | WBC   |
| 1967-05-16 | Tiger     | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 37.7533 | WBA   |
| 1976-05-02 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 37.7204 | WBC   |
| 1989-02-24 | Duran     | Roberto      | Middleweight        | 37.6958 | WBC   |
| 2009-03-21 | Klitschko | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 37.6739 | WBC   |
| 2008-09-13 | Forrest   | Vernon       | Light Middleweight  | 37.6711 | WBC   |
| 2004-09-04 | Nelson    | Johnny       | Cruiserweight       | 37.6684 | WBO   |
| 1994-07-23 | McCallum  | Mike         | Light Heavyweight   | 37.6246 | WBC   |
| 1973-10-21 | Jofre     | Eder         | Featherweight       | 37.5726 | WBC   |
| 1976-02-14 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 37.5068 | WBC   |
| 2006-08-12 | Maskaev   | Oleg         | Heavyweight         | 37.4466 | WBC   |
| 1995-12-01 | Nelson    | Azumah       | Super Featherweight | 37.3699 | WBC   |
| 1975-12-17 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 37.3453 | WBC   |
| 1966-12-16 | Tiger     | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 37.3398 | WBC   |
| 1966-12-16 | Tiger     | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 37.3398 | WBA   |
| 2010-08-07 | Bundrage  | Cornelius    | Light Middleweight  | 37.2851 | IBF   |
| 1997-11-08 | Vazquez   | Wilfredo     | Featherweight       | 37.2686 | WBA   |
| 2008-10-11 | Klitschko | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 37.2331 | WBC   |
| 1991-01-19 | Andries   | Dennis       | Light Heavyweight   | 37.2057 | WBC   |
| 2005-11-27 | Joval     | Raymond      | Middleweight        | 37.2002 | IBO   |
| 2000-10-09 | Gamez     | Leo          | Super Flyweight     | 37.1728 | WBA   |
| 2003-03-08 | Sanders   | Corrie       | Heavyweight         | 37.1646 | WBO   |
| 1973-05-05 | Jofre     | Eder         | Featherweight       | 37.1098 | WBC   |
| 1975-09-13 | Estaba    | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 37.0852 | WBC   |
| 1997-08-23 | Vazquez   | Wilfredo     | Featherweight       | 37.0578 | WBA   |
| 2002-02-02 | Hopkins   | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 37.0496 | IBF   |
| 2002-02-02 | Hopkins   | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 37.0496 | WBC   |
| 2000-12-15 | Hilton    | Dave         | Super Middleweight  | 37.0195 | WBC   |
| 2009-03-28 | Lopez     | Jose         | Super Flyweight     | 36.9976 | WBO   |
| 2004-02-07 | Bungu     | Vuyani       | Featherweight       | 36.9483 | IBO   |
| 1990-10-10 | Andries   | Dennis       | Light Heavyweight   | 36.9291 | WBC   |
| 2000-12-09 | Hill      | Virgil       | Cruiserweight       | 36.8935 | WBA   |
| 2007-12-01 | Forrest   | Vernon       | Light Middleweight  | 36.8853 | WBC   |
| 2003-11-15 | Nelson    | Johnny       | Cruiserweight       | 36.8634 | WBO   |
| 2005-10-01 | Tarver    | Antonio      | Light Heavyweight   | 36.8607 | IBO   |
| 2010-09-01 | Fana      | Mzonke       | Super Featherweight | 36.8415 | IBF   |
| 2002-06-08 | Lewis     | Lennox       | Heavyweight         | 36.7649 | IBO   |
| 2002-06-08 | Lewis     | Lennox       | Heavyweight         | 36.7649 | WBC   |
| 2002-06-08 | Lewis     | Lennox       | Heavyweight         | 36.7649 | IBF   |
| 1990-07-28 | Andries   | Dennis       | Light Heavyweight   | 36.7265 | WBC   |
| 2005-06-03 | Joval     | Raymond      | Middleweight        | 36.7156 | IBO   |
| 2001-09-29 | Hopkins   | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 36.7046 | WBC   |
| 2001-09-29 | Hopkins   | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 36.7046 | IBF   |
| 2001-02-03 | Thompson  | Carl         | Cruiserweight       | 36.6937 | IBO   |
| 1978-09-15 | Ali       | Muhammad     | Heavyweight         | 36.6608 | WBA   |
| 1997-03-30 | Vazquez   | Wilfredo     | Featherweight       | 36.6581 | WBA   |
| 2005-06-18 | Tarver    | Antonio      | Light Heavyweight   | 36.5732 | IBO   |
| 2007-07-28 | Forrest   | Vernon       | Light Middleweight  | 36.5404 | WBC   |
+------------+-----------+--------------+---------------------+---------+-------+
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Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 12:31
by JCS
Hopkins should be at the top for his recent win, or is the data old?

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 20 Jul 2011, 14:39
by computerrank
JCS wrote:Hopkins should be at the top for his recent win, or is the data old?
Sorry, you are right. The data on the test server are from Oct 2010 latest ...

I will contact John ...

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 22 Jul 2011, 12:30
by m1kee50
Funny question I know -

RING magazine has its titles dished out when #1 and #2 fight, as we all know, my question is, would it be possible to tell me when divisional #1 and #2 on the Boxrec database have fought?

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 23 Jul 2011, 09:38
by computerrank
@matt___s wrote:Funny question I know -

RING magazine has its titles dished out when #1 and #2 fight, as we all know, my question is, would it be possible to tell me when divisional #1 and #2 on the Boxrec database have fought?
... few, I guess ...

the heavyweights for example:

M 15.11.1901 Heavyweight W TKO James J Jeffries 1 Gus Ruhlin 2
M 11.12.1903 Heavyweight W PTS Jack Johnson 1 Sandy Ferguson 2
M 06.11.1908 Heavyweight D PTS Fireman Jim Flynn 1 Jim Barry 2
M 21.12.1908 Heavyweight L KO Fireman Jim Flynn 1 Sam Langford 2
M 09.09.1909 Heavyweight W NWS Jack Johnson 1 Al Kaufman 2
M 26.12.1911 Heavyweight L PTS Sam Langford 1 Sam McVea 2
M 08.04.1912 Heavyweight L PTS Sam McVea 1 Sam Langford 2
M 27.04.1915 Heavyweight D PTS Sam McVea 1 Joe Jeannette 2
M 11.02.1916 Heavyweight L KO Harry Wills 1 Sam Langford 2
M 14.04.1918 Heavyweight L KO Sam Langford 1 Harry Wills 2
M 04.07.1919 Heavyweight W NWS Harry Wills 1 Sam Langford 2
M 26.07.1920 Heavyweight W KO Harry Wills 1 Fred Fulton 2
M 06.01.1922 Heavyweight D PTS Bill Tate 1 Harry Wills 2
M 22.09.1927 Heavyweight W UD Gene Tunney 1 Jack Dempsey 2
M 19.06.1936 Heavyweight L KO Joe Louis 1 Max Schmeling 2
M 22.06.1938 Heavyweight W KO Joe Louis 1 Max Schmeling 2
M 18.06.1941 Heavyweight W KO Joe Louis 1 Billy Conn 2
M 22.10.1943 Heavyweight L KO Eddie Blunt 1 Lee Savold 2
M 16.03.1945 Heavyweight D PTS Jimmy Bivins 1 Melio Bettina 2
M 05.06.1952 Heavyweight L UD Ezzard Charles 1 Jersey Joe Walcott 2
M 23.09.1952 Heavyweight L KO Jersey Joe Walcott 1 Rocky Marciano 2
M 16.05.1955 Heavyweight W TKO Rocky Marciano 1 Don Cockell 2
M 30.11.1956 Heavyweight L KO Archie Moore 1 Floyd Patterson 2
M 18.08.1958 Heavyweight W RTD Floyd Patterson 1 Roy Harris 2
M 14.11.1958 Heavyweight W UD Tony Anthony 1 Sonny Ray 2
M 26.06.1959 Heavyweight L TKO Floyd Patterson 1 Ingemar Johansson 2
M 25.09.1962 Heavyweight L KO Floyd Patterson 1 Sonny Liston 2
M 25.02.1964 Heavyweight L RTD Sonny Liston 1 Muhammad Ali 2
M 14.11.1966 Heavyweight W TKO Muhammad Ali 1 Cleveland Williams 2
M 06.02.1967 Heavyweight W UD Muhammad Ali 1 Ernie Terrell 2
M 06.07.1968 Heavyweight L TKO Henry Clark 1 Sonny Liston 2
M 26.11.1968 Heavyweight W TKO Leotis Martin 1 Alvin Lewis 2
M 03.02.1969 Heavyweight L UD George Chuvalo 1 Buster Mathis 2
M 08.03.1971 Heavyweight W UD Joe Frazier 1 Muhammad Ali 2
M 30.10.1974 Heavyweight L KO George Foreman 1 Muhammad Ali 2
M 24.03.1975 Heavyweight W TKO Muhammad Ali 1 Chuck Wepner 2
M 01.10.1975 Heavyweight W RTD Muhammad Ali 1 Joe Frazier 2
M 28.09.1979 Heavyweight W TKO Larry Holmes 1 Earnie Shavers 2
M 28.06.1991 Heavyweight L UD Donovan Ruddock 1 Mike Tyson 2
M 13.03.1999 Heavyweight D SD Lennox Lewis 1 Evander Holyfield 2
M 13.11.1999 Heavyweight W UD Lennox Lewis 1 Evander Holyfield 2
M 29.04.2000 Heavyweight W KO Lennox Lewis 1 Michael Grant 2
M 17.11.2001 Heavyweight L KO Hasim Rahman 1 Lennox Lewis 2

all weight divisions:

M 1897-03-08 Lightweight L NWS Kid Lavigne 1 Charles McKeever 2
M 1897-12-17 Middleweight L RTD Dan Creedon 1 Charles Kid McCoy 2
M 1898-03-17 Lightweight D PTS Kid Lavigne 1 Wilmington Jack Daly 2
M 1898-04-11 Lightweight L NWS Kid Lavigne 1 Wilmington Jack Daly 2
M 1899-03-10 Welterweight W TKO Mysterious Billy Smith 1 Kid Lavigne 2
M 1899-05-09 Lightweight L PTS George (Elbows) McFadden 1 Frank Erne 2
M 1899-12-04 Lightweight D PTS Frank Erne 1 New York Jack O'Brien 2
M 01.02.1900 Featherweight W TKO Terry McGovern 1 Eddie Santry 2
M 02.10.1900 Lightweight D PTS George (Elbows) McFadden 1 Joe Gans 2
M 12.11.1900 Middleweight W TKO Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 1 Jimmy Handler 2
M 24.05.1901 Welterweight L KO Matty Matthews 1 James Rube Ferns 2
M 15.11.1901 Heavyweight W TKO James J Jeffries 1 Gus Ruhlin 2
M 18.12.1901 Welterweight L TKO James Rube Ferns 1 Joe Walcott 2
M 11.12.1903 Heavyweight W PTS Jack Johnson 1 Sandy Ferguson 2
M 27.01.1904 Middleweight L NWS Tommy Ryan 1 Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 2
M 25.03.1904 Lightweight L PTS Young Corbett II 1 Jimmy Britt 2
M 08.04.1904 D PTS Buddy Ryan 1 Jimmy Gardner 2
M 29.04.1904 Middleweight L DQ Joe Walcott 1 Dixie Kid 2
M 13.06.1904 Welterweight D PTS Honey Mellody 1 Jack O'Keefe 2
M 16.09.1904 L NWS Young Erne 1 George Decker 2
M 17.10.1904 Bantamweight W PTS Joe Bowker 1 Frankie Neil 2
M 09.12.1904 Welterweight D PTS Jack Blackburn 1 Sam Langford 2
M 31.08.1905 W NWS Young Erne 1 Tim Callahan 2
M 11.05.1906 Featherweight D PTS Abe Attell 1 Kid Herman 2
M 03.09.1906 Lightweight L DQ Battling Nelson 1 Joe Gans 2
M 11.02.1907 Welterweight W TKO Honey Mellody 1 Willie Lewis 2
M 20.06.1907 Middleweight D PTS Billy Papke 1 Tony Caponi 2
M 09.09.1907 Lightweight W TKO Joe Gans 1 Jimmy Britt 2
M 22.02.1908 Middleweight W KO Stanley Ketchel 1 Mike Twin Sullivan 2
M 07.09.1908 Featherweight D PTS Abe Attell 1 Owen Moran 2
M 09.09.1908 Lightweight W KO Battling Nelson 1 Joe Gans 2
M 06.11.1908 Heavyweight D PTS Fireman Jim Flynn 1 Jim Barry 2
M 14.12.1908 Bantamweight L NWS Jack Britton 1 Reddy Moore 2
M 21.12.1908 Heavyweight L KO Fireman Jim Flynn 1 Sam Langford 2
M 09.06.1909 Middleweight W TKO Stanley Ketchel 1 Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 2
M 09.09.1909 Heavyweight W NWS Jack Johnson 1 Al Kaufman 2
M 19.02.1910 Welterweight D PTS Willie Lewis 1 Harry Lewis 2
M 07.04.1910 Light Heavyweight D PTS Leo Houck 1 Young Loughrey 2
M 09.04.1910 D NWS Tommy O'Keefe 1 Joe Hirst 2
M 08.12.1910 Lightweight L PTS Phil Brock 1 Jack Redmond 2
M 19.07.1911 Lightweight L NWS Fighting Dick Hyland 1 Matt Wells 2
M 09.12.1911 Middleweight D PTS Jimmy Clabby 1 Dave Smith 2
M 26.12.1911 Heavyweight L PTS Sam Langford 1 Sam McVea 2
M 08.04.1912 Heavyweight L PTS Sam McVea 1 Sam Langford 2
M 04.11.1912 Lightweight W NWS Ad Wolgast 1 Joe Mandot 2
M 22.01.1913 Welterweight W PTS Tommy Howell 1 Ray Bronson 2
M 29.05.1913 Middleweight L NWS Frank Klaus 1 Jack Dillon 2
M 25.09.1913 Featherweight W NWS Johnny Kilbane 1 Joe Goldberg 2
M 15.11.1913 Middleweight W NWS Leo Houck 1 George Chip 2
M 31.01.1914 Bantamweight W KO Kid Williams 1 Eddie Campi 2
M 09.11.1914 Welterweight W NWS Freddie Welsh 1 Charley White 2
M 14.12.1914 Middleweight W NWS Mike Gibbons 1 Willie 'KO' Brennan 2
M 27.04.1915 Heavyweight D PTS Sam McVea 1 Joe Jeannette 2
M 21.12.1915 Middleweight L NWS Johnny Howard 1 Gus Christie 2
M 11.02.1916 Heavyweight L KO Harry Wills 1 Sam Langford 2
M 17.03.1916 Middleweight W NWS Mike Gibbons 1 Jeff Smith 2
M 29.05.1916 Light Heavyweight W KO Les Darcy 1 Buck Crouse 2
M 12.06.1916 Lightweight D NWS Johnny Dundee 1 Benny Leonard 2
M 26.06.1916 Flyweight W TKO Jimmy Wilde 1 Tancy Lee 2
M 28.07.1916 Lightweight W NWS Freddie Welsh 1 Benny Leonard 2
M 12.09.1916 Light Heavyweight D NWS Battling Levinsky 1 Jack Dillon 2
M 18.09.1916 Bantamweight L NWS Billy Bevan 1 Frankie Burns 2
M 30.09.1916 Middleweight W KO Les Darcy 1 George Chip 2
M 30.10.1916 Light Heavyweight L NWS Battling Levinsky 1 Billy Miske 2
M 06.01.1917 Middleweight W PTS Tommy Uren 1 Fred Kay 2
M 16.01.1917 Light Heavyweight W NWS Billy Miske 1 Jack Dillon 2
M 26.02.1917 Featherweight L NWS Johnny Kilbane 1 Rocky Kansas 2
M 17.09.1917 Welterweight L NWS Matt Wells 1 Bryan Downey 2
M 11.10.1917 Light Heavyweight W NWS Harry Greb 1 Gus Christie 2
M 29.10.1917 Welterweight L NWS Johnny Griffiths 1 Bryan Downey 2
M 12.12.1917 Lightweight W NWS Benny Leonard 1 'Irish' Patsy Cline 2
M 14.04.1918 Heavyweight L KO Sam Langford 1 Harry Wills 2
M 24.05.1918 Welterweight L NWS Jack Britton 1 Ted 'Kid' Lewis 2
M 20.06.1918 Welterweight D NWS Jack Britton 1 Ted 'Kid' Lewis 2
M 10.02.1919 Light Heavyweight L NWS Larry Williams 1 Tommy Gibbons 2
M 06.03.1919 Featherweight L PTS Al Shubert 1 Billy DeFoe 2
M 17.03.1919 Welterweight W KO Jack Britton 1 Ted 'Kid' Lewis 2
M 26.06.1919 Welterweight L PTS Jack Britton 1 Jack Perry 2
M 04.07.1919 Heavyweight W NWS Harry Wills 1 Sam Langford 2
M 07.08.1919 Welterweight D NWS Johnny Griffiths 1 Jack Britton 2
M 11.08.1919 Lightweight W NWS Benny Leonard 1 Irish' Patsy Cline 2
M 10.12.1919 Lightweight W TKO Benny Leonard 1 Mel Coogan 2
M 23.02.1920 Bantamweight L NWS Jackie Sharkey 1 Memphis Pal Moore 2
M 09.03.1920 Light Heavyweight W NWS Harry Greb 1 Clay Turner 2
M 12.03.1920 Flyweight W NWS Jimmy Wilde 1 Frankie Mason 2
M 13.05.1920 Middleweight L PTS Joe Eagan 1 Mike McTigue 2
M 15.05.1920 Light Heavyweight L NWS Harry Greb 1 Tommy Gibbons 2
M 21.05.1920 Lightweight L TKO Jimmy Hanlon 1 Richie Mitchell 2
M 26.07.1920 Heavyweight W KO Harry Wills 1 Fred Fulton 2
M 31.07.1920 Light Heavyweight L NWS Tommy Gibbons 1 Harry Greb 2
M 09.11.1920 Middleweight W SD Mike O'Dowd 1 Jeff Smith 2
M 15.12.1920 Featherweight D NWS Danny Frush 1 Tommy Noble 2
M 25.07.1921 Welterweight L PTS Steve Latzo 1 Eddie Shevlin 2
M 12.08.1921 Light Heavyweight L TKO Ted Jamieson 1 Dan O'Dowd 2
M 06.01.1922 Heavyweight D PTS Bill Tate 1 Harry Wills 2
M 10.02.1922 Lightweight W UD Benny Leonard 1 Rocky Kansas 2
M 13.03.1922 Light Heavyweight W PTS Harry Greb 1 Tommy Gibbons 2
M 26.06.1922 Welterweight L DQ Benny Leonard 1 Jack Britton 2
M 03.02.1923 Welterweight L PTS Eddie Shevlin 1 Dave Shade 2
M 01.03.1923 Flyweight L PTS Pancho Villa 1 Frankie Genaro 2
M 08.10.1923 Welterweight D PTS Morrie Schlaifer 1 Bermondsey Billy Wells 2
M 22.10.1923 Light Heavyweight L NWS Lou Bogash 1 Harry Greb 2
M 29.11.1923 Welterweight L NWS Sailor Friedman 1 Alex Hart 2
M 28.08.1924 Bantamweight W NWS Carl Tremaine 1 Bud Taylor 2
M 02.01.1925 Featherweight W TKO Louis Kaplan 1 Danny Kramer 2
M 13.02.1925 Middleweight L PTS Jack Delaney 1 Jimmy Slattery 2
M 12.10.1925 Lightweight W PTS Sid Terris 1 Jack Bernstein 2
M 23.10.1925 Light Heavyweight L NWS Jock Malone 1 Tiger Flowers 2
M 20.05.1926 Welterweight L UD Mickey Walker 1 Pete Latzo 2
M 29.06.1926 Middleweight L KO Bert Colima 1 Cowboy Jack Willis 2
M 05.10.1926 Flyweight D PTS Fidel LaBarba 1 Newsboy Brown 2
M 06.11.1926 Bantamweight W TKO Bud Taylor 1 Young Montreal 2
M 21.12.1926 Flyweight W PTS Newsboy Brown 1 Young Nationalista 2
M 17.03.1927 Light Heavyweight W PTS Young Stribling 1 Maxie Rosenbloom 2
M 13.05.1927 Lightweight W PTS Sid Terris 1 Stanislaus Loayza 2
M 22.09.1927 Heavyweight W UD Gene Tunney 1 Jack Dempsey 2
M 23.11.1927 Lightweight W PTS Jimmy McLarnin 1 Billy Wallace 2
M 25.11.1927 Light Heavyweight W PTS Mickey Walker 1 Paul Berlenbach 2
M 01.12.1927 Bantamweight W PTS Kid Francis 1 Archie Bell 2
M 21.06.1928 Middleweight L SD Ace Hudkins 1 Mickey Walker 2
M 16.07.1928 Light Heavyweight W UD Tommy Loughran 1 Pete Latzo 2
M 20.08.1928 Welterweight W PTS Al Mello 1 Canada Lee 2
M 13.09.1928 Welterweight L PTS Sergeant Sammy Baker 1 Young Corbett III 2
M 30.10.1928 Welterweight L KO Sergeant Sammy Baker 1 Jackie Fields 2
M 14.02.1930 Middleweight L PTS Wesley Ketchell 1 Gorilla Jones 2
M 21.03.1930 Flyweight L PTS Black Bill 1 Midget Wolgast 2
M 20.02.1931 Welterweight W PTS Young Corbett III 1 Paulie Walker 2
M 04.06.1931 Middleweight W PTS Vince Dundee 1 Ben Jeby 2
M 09.07.1931 Light Heavyweight W PTS Maxie Rosenbloom 1 Joe Banovic 2
M 19.11.1931 Featherweight L KO Bushy Graham 1 Battling Battalino 2
M 30.12.1931 Light Heavyweight L UD Larry Johnson 1 Billy Jones 2
M 11.06.1932 Middleweight W DQ Marcel Thil 1 Gorilla Jones 2
M 18.07.1932 Middleweight L PTS Young Terry 1 Vince Dundee 2
M 27.11.1932 D PTS Gypsy Trollmann 1 Adolf Witt 2
M 11.12.1932 L PTS Gypsy Trollmann 1 Adolf Witt 2
M 17.03.1933 Middleweight D PTS Ben Jeby 1 Vince Dundee 2
M 03.04.1933 Light Heavyweight L SD Maxie Rosenbloom 1 Lou Scozza 2
M 29.05.1933 Welterweight L TKO Young Corbett III 1 Jimmy McLarnin 2
M 04.12.1933 Welterweight W KO Tony Canzoneri 1 Cecil Payne 2
M 19.01.1934 Light Heavyweight L PTS Bob Olin 1 Lou Brouillard 2
M 19.02.1934 Bantamweight W PTS Panama Al Brown 1 Victor (Young) Perez 2
M 23.03.1934 Lightweight W PTS Georgie Hansford 1 Frankie Wallace 2
M 03.05.1934 Middleweight L PTS Al Diamond 1 Vince Dundee 2
M 18.06.1934 Flyweight D PTS Valentin Angelmann 1 Jackie Brown 2
M 28.06.1934 Lightweight W TKO Tony Canzoneri 1 Frankie Klick 2
M 03.08.1934 Featherweight W PTS Freddie Miller 1 Tommy Paul 2
M 17.09.1934 Welterweight L SD Barney Ross 1 Jimmy McLarnin 2
M 14.01.1935 Middleweight W UD Vince Dundee 1 Paul Pirrone 2
M 10.05.1935 Lightweight L UD Lou Ambers 1 Tony Canzoneri 2
M 28.05.1935 Welterweight L UD Jimmy McLarnin 1 Barney Ross 2
M 04.07.1935 Welterweight L PTS Young Corbett III 1 Lou Brouillard 2
M 19.12.1935 Flyweight W PTS Benny Lynch 1 Phil Milligan 2
M 19.06.1936 Heavyweight L KO Joe Louis 1 Max Schmeling 2
M 12.08.1936 Light Heavyweight W PTS John Henry Lewis 1 George Nichols 2
M 27.10.1936 Featherweight W PTS Henry Armstrong 1 Mike Belloise 2
M 06.07.1937 Welterweight L PTS Johnny Lucas 1 Holman Williams 2
M 07.01.1938 Middleweight L TKO Freddie Steele 1 Fred Apostoli 2
M 23.03.1938 Light Heavyweight W PTS Gus Lesnevich 1 Lou Brouillard 2
M 24.03.1938 Flyweight D PTS Benny Lynch 1 Peter Kane 2
M 22.06.1938 Heavyweight W KO Joe Louis 1 Max Schmeling 2
M 18.11.1938 Welterweight L TKO Young Corbett III 1 Fred Apostoli 2
M 10.02.1939 Light Heavyweight W UD Billy Conn 1 Fred Apostoli 2
M 31.03.1939 Welterweight W TKO Henry Armstrong 1 Davey Day 2
M 14.04.1939 Lightweight W PTS Tony Chavez 1 Ritchie Fontaine 2
M 17.07.1939 Lightweight W PTS Sammy Angott 1 Petey Sarron 2
M 28.02.1940 Bantamweight D PTS Tony Olivera 1 Little Dado 2
M 05.06.1940 Light Heavyweight W UD Billy Conn 1 Gus Lesnevich 2
M 15.11.1940 Welterweight W DQ Fritzie Zivic 1 Al 'Bummy' Davis 2
M 17.01.1941 Welterweight W TKO Fritzie Zivic 1 Henry Armstrong 2
M 18.06.1941 Heavyweight W KO Joe Louis 1 Billy Conn 2
M 26.08.1941 Light Heavyweight W SD Gus Lesnevich 1 Tami Mauriello 2
M 10.10.1941 Lightweight W KO Bob Montgomery 1 Davey Day 2
M 14.11.1941 Light Heavyweight W UD Gus Lesnevich 1 Tami Mauriello 2
M 28.11.1941 Middleweight W UD Tony Zale 1 Georgie Abrams 2
M 12.01.1942 Light Heavyweight W TKO Ezzard Charles 1 Anton Christoforidis 2
M 06.03.1942 Welterweight L UD Bob Montgomery 1 Sammy Angott 2
M 30.05.1942 Bantamweight L TKO Leonardo Lopez 1 Manuel Ortiz 2
M 07.07.1942 Welterweight W SD Sammy Angott 1 Bob Montgomery 2
M 31.07.1942 Welterweight L UD Sammy Angott 1 Sugar Ray Robinson 2
M 24.08.1942 Lightweight L SD Leo Rodak 1 Slugger White 2
M 08.06.1943 Featherweight W UD Willie Pep 1 Sal Bartolo 2
M 27.08.1943 Welterweight W UD Sugar Ray Robinson 1 Henry Armstrong 2
M 22.10.1943 Heavyweight L KO Eddie Blunt 1 Lee Savold 2
M 16.03.1945 Heavyweight D PTS Jimmy Bivins 1 Melio Bettina 2
M 22.03.1945 Flyweight L PTS Mickey Jones 1 Joe Curran 2
M 15.06.1945 Welterweight W KO Sugar Ray Robinson 1 Jimmy McDaniels 2
M 05.04.1946 Featherweight L PTS Dennis Pat Brady 1 Sal Bartolo 2
M 24.04.1946 Light Heavyweight W PTS Charley Burley 1 Oakland Billy Smith 2
M 14.10.1946 Middleweight W SD Sam Baroudi 1 Holman Williams 2
M 01.07.1947 Flyweight W PTS Rinty Monaghan 1 Emile Famechon 2
M 20.10.1947 Flyweight W PTS Rinty Monaghan 1 Dado Marino 2
M 13.01.1948 Light Heavyweight L KO Archie Moore 1 Ezzard Charles 2
M 28.06.1948 Flyweight W TKO Rinty Monaghan 1 Charlie Squire 2
M 01.04.1949 Welterweight W UD Kid Gavilan 1 Ike Williams 2
M 16.09.1949 Bantamweight L TKO Dado Marino 1 Tirso del Rosario 2
M 30.09.1949 Flyweight D PTS Rinty Monaghan 1 Terry Allen 2
M 05.12.1949 Lightweight W UD Ike Williams 1 Freddie Dawson 2
M 24.01.1950 Light Heavyweight L KO Freddie Mills 1 Joey Maxim 2
M 02.06.1950 Welterweight W UD Ike Williams 1 Lester Felton 2
M 12.07.1950 Welterweight L UD Ike Williams 1 George Costner 2
M 26.09.1950 Lightweight W UD John L Davis 1 Art Aragon 2
M 02.10.1950 Bantamweight L PTS Black Pico 1 Teddy Gardner 2
M 12.02.1951 Bantamweight W PTS Gaetano Annaloro 1 Emile Chemama 2
M 14.02.1951 Middleweight W TKO Sugar Ray Robinson 1 Jake LaMotta 2
M 11.06.1951 Flyweight L PTS Vic Herman 1 Terry Allen 2
M 24.07.1951 Lightweight L SD Johnny Gonsalves 1 Art Aragon 2
M 28.08.1951 Lightweight L SD Jimmy Carter 1 Art Aragon 2
M 12.09.1951 Middleweight L TKO Randy Turpin 1 Sugar Ray Robinson 2
M 29.01.1952 Light Heavyweight L UD Harold Johnson 1 Archie Moore 2
M 05.06.1952 Heavyweight L UD Ezzard Charles 1 Jersey Joe Walcott 2
M 23.09.1952 Heavyweight L KO Jersey Joe Walcott 1 Rocky Marciano 2
M 04.10.1952 Bantamweight L PTS Gaetano Annaloro 1 Jean Sneyers 2
M 09.02.1953 Featherweight L RTD Ray Famechon 1 Percy Bassett 2
M 21.10.1953 Middleweight L UD Randy Turpin 1 Bobo Olson 2
M 30.12.1953 Welterweight W SD Del Flanagan 1 Johnny Saxton 2
M 23.01.1954 Light Heavyweight W KO Bobo Olson 1 Joe Rindone 2
M 21.04.1954 Lightweight L PTS George Barnes 1 Freddie Dawson 2
M 02.12.1954 Welterweight W UD Johnny Saxton 1 Ramon Fuentes 2
M 16.05.1955 Heavyweight W TKO Rocky Marciano 1 Don Cockell 2
M 10.06.1955 Welterweight L TKO Tony DeMarco 1 Carmen Basilio 2
M 22.06.1955 Light Heavyweight W KO Archie Moore 1 Bobo Olson 2
M 03.11.1955 Featherweight L RTD Ray Famechon 1 Fred Galiana 2
M 18.05.1956 Middleweight W KO Sugar Ray Robinson 1 Bobo Olson 2
M 01.06.1956 Lightweight L KO Frankie Ryff 1 Larry Boardman 2
M 30.11.1956 Heavyweight L KO Archie Moore 1 Floyd Patterson 2
M 24.06.1957 Featherweight L TKO Cherif Hamia 1 Hogan (Kid) Bassey 2
M 08.11.1957 Middleweight D PTS Jimmy Martinez 1 Gustav Scholz 2
M 22.02.1958 Light Heavyweight W KO Erich Schoppner 1 Willi Hoepner 2
M 21.03.1958 Welterweight W TKO Virgil Akins 1 Isaac Logart 2
M 25.03.1958 Middleweight L SD Carmen Basilio 1 Sugar Ray Robinson 2
M 19.04.1958 Flyweight W UD Pascual Perez 1 Ramon Arias 2
M 06.06.1958 Welterweight W TKO Virgil Akins 1 Vince Martinez 2
M 18.08.1958 Heavyweight W RTD Floyd Patterson 1 Roy Harris 2
M 14.11.1958 Heavyweight W UD Tony Anthony 1 Sonny Ray 2
M 18.03.1959 Featherweight L RTD Hogan (Kid) Bassey 1 Davey Moore 2
M 22.04.1959 Middleweight W TKO Spider Webb 1 Neal Rivers 2
M 26.06.1959 Heavyweight L TKO Floyd Patterson 1 Ingemar Johansson 2
M 04.12.1959 Middleweight L UD Spider Webb 1 Gene Fullmer 2
M 05.12.1959 Middleweight L TKO Andre Drille 1 Gustav Scholz 2
M 04.02.1960 Welterweight L KO Battling Torres 1 Carlos Ortiz 2
M 30.04.1960 Featherweight L PTS Percy Lewis 1 Gracieux Lamperti 2
M 22.09.1960 Flyweight W TKO Pone Kingpetch 1 Pascual Perez 2
M 09.01.1961 Featherweight W PTS Davey Moore 1 Gracieux Lamperti 2
M 11.09.1962 Bantamweight W KO Eder Jofre 1 Jose Medel 2
M 14.09.1962 Welterweight L UD Duilio Loi 1 Eddie Perkins 2
M 25.09.1962 Heavyweight L KO Floyd Patterson 1 Sonny Liston 2
M 23.10.1962 Middleweight L UD Gene Fullmer 1 Dick Tiger 2
M 08.06.1963 Welterweight L SD Luis Manuel Rodriguez 1 Emile Griffith 2
M 10.08.1963 Middleweight W RTD Dick Tiger 1 Gene Fullmer 2
M 25.02.1964 Heavyweight L RTD Sonny Liston 1 Muhammad Ali 2
M 22.05.1964 Middleweight L UD Juan Carlos Rivero 1 Joey Giardello 2
M 26.09.1964 Featherweight L RTD Sugar Ramos 1 Vicente Saldivar 2
M 14.12.1964 Middleweight L UD Rubin Carter 1 Joey Giardello 2
M 13.11.1965 Lightweight W UD Carlos Ortiz 1 Ismael Laguna 2
M 14.11.1966 Heavyweight W TKO Muhammad Ali 1 Cleveland Williams 2
M 10.12.1966 Flyweight W UD Horacio Accavallo 1 Efren Torres 2
M 06.02.1967 Heavyweight W UD Muhammad Ali 1 Ernie Terrell 2
M 16.05.1967 Light Heavyweight W SD Dick Tiger 1 Jose Torres 2
M 16.08.1967 Lightweight W UD Carlos Ortiz 1 Ismael Laguna 2
M 14.10.1967 Featherweight W TKO Vicente Saldivar 1 Howard Winstone 2
M 04.03.1968 Middleweight L UD Emile Griffith 1 Nino Benvenuti 2
M 06.07.1968 Heavyweight L TKO Henry Clark 1 Sonny Liston 2
M 26.11.1968 Heavyweight W TKO Leotis Martin 1 Alvin Lewis 2
M 06.12.1968 Bantamweight L SD Chucho Castillo 1 Lionel Rose 2
M 03.02.1969 Heavyweight L UD George Chuvalo 1 Buster Mathis 2
M 01.03.1969 Middleweight L PTS Hisao Minami 1 Ki Soo Kim 2
M 24.05.1969 Light Heavyweight W TKO Bob Foster 1 Andy Kendall 2
M 18.07.1969 Featherweight L KO Nobuo Chiba 1 Dwight Hawkins 2
M 03.03.1970 Lightweight L TKO Mando Ramos 1 Ismael Laguna 2
M 06.08.1970 Lightweight L SD Sugar Ramos 1 Mando Ramos 2
M 08.03.1971 Heavyweight W UD Joe Frazier 1 Muhammad Ali 2
M 02.04.1971 Bantamweight L UD Chucho Castillo 1 Ruben Olivares 2
M 24.04.1971 Light Heavyweight W UD Bob Foster 1 Ray Anderson 2
M 04.06.1971 Welterweight L TKO Billy Backus 1 Jose Napoles 2
M 27.01.1972 Middleweight W PTS Tom Bogs 1 Juarez De Lima 2
M 18.02.1972 Lightweight W SD Mando Ramos 1 Pedro Carrasco 2
M 07.03.1972 Middleweight W TKO Nate Collins 1 Eugene Hart 2
M 19.03.1972 Bantamweight L TKO Ruben Olivares 1 Rafael Herrera 2
M 28.03.1972 Welterweight W KO Jose Napoles 1 Ralph Charles 2
M 07.04.1972 Light Heavyweight L TKO Vicente Rondon 1 Bob Foster 2
M 17.06.1972 Middleweight W TKO Carlos Monzon 1 Jean Claude Bouttier 2
M 29.09.1973 Middleweight W UD Carlos Monzon 1 Jean Claude Bouttier 2
M 29.01.1974 Featherweight W UD Fernando Cabanella 1 Chartchai Chionoi 2
M 16.03.1974 Lightweight L KO Esteban De Jesus 1 Roberto Duran 2
M 30.10.1974 Heavyweight L KO George Foreman 1 Muhammad Ali 2
M 08.03.1975 Flyweight W SD Miguel Canto 1 Ignacio Espinal 2
M 24.03.1975 Heavyweight W TKO Muhammad Ali 1 Chuck Wepner 2
M 05.06.1975 Lightweight W UD Guts Ishimatsu 1 Arturo Pineda 2
M 20.09.1975 Featherweight W SD David Kotey 1 Ruben Olivares 2
M 01.10.1975 Heavyweight W RTD Muhammad Ali 1 Joe Frazier 2
M 30.01.1976 Bantamweight W SD Rodolfo Martinez 1 Venice Borkhorsor 2
M 15.05.1976 Light Heavyweight W KO Victor Emilio Galindez 1 Richie Kates 2
M 26.06.1976 Middleweight W UD Carlos Monzon 1 Rodrigo Valdez 2
M 29.01.1977 Lightweight W KO Roberto Duran 1 Vilomar Fernandez 2
M 23.04.1977 Bantamweight W TKO Carlos Zarate 1 Alfonso Zamora 2
M 17.09.1977 Flyweight W UD Miguel Canto 1 Martin Vargas 2
M 21.01.1978 Lightweight L TKO Esteban De Jesus 1 Roberto Duran 2
M 25.02.1978 Bantamweight W TKO Carlos Zarate 1 Alberto Davila 2
M 05.08.1978 Middleweight L UD Ronnie Harris 1 Hugo Pastor Corro 2
M 28.09.1979 Heavyweight W TKO Larry Holmes 1 Earnie Shavers 2
M 28.09.1979 Super Bantamweight L TKO Carlos Mendoza 1 Wilfredo Gomez 2
M 20.06.1980 Welterweight L UD Sugar Ray Leonard 1 Roberto Duran 2
M 18.03.1983 Light Heavyweight L UD Dwight Muhammad Qawi 1 Michael Spinks 2
M 27.05.1983 Middleweight W KO Marvin Hagler 1 Wilford Scypion 2
M 17.12.1983 Bantamweight W TKO Jeff Chandler 1 Oscar Muniz 2
M 26.02.1984 Super Featherweight W KO Rocky Lockridge 1 Roger Mayweather 2
M 23.06.1984 Super Featherweight L TKO Gerald Hayes 1 Eusebio Pedroza 2
M 30.08.1986 Super Flyweight D PTS Gilberto Roman 1 Santos Benigno Laciar 2
M 29.03.1988 Welterweight L KO Jorge Vaca 1 Lloyd Honeyghan 2
M 07.05.1988 Light Welterweight L KO Sang Ho Lee 1 Juan Martin Coggi 2
M 25.03.1989 Middleweight W KO Michael Nunn 1 Sumbu Kalambay 2
M 14.06.1989 Lightweight L TKO Gert Bo Jacobsen 1 Policarpo Diaz 2
M 12.09.1989 Super Flyweight W UD Gilberto Roman 1 Santos Benigno Laciar 2
M 04.02.1990 Featherweight L SD Troy Dorsey 1 Jorge Paez 2
M 28.06.1991 Heavyweight L UD Donovan Ruddock 1 Mike Tyson 2
M 07.05.1994 Light Middleweight L UD Simon Brown 1 Terry Norris 2
M 20.09.1996 Welterweight L UD Wilfredo Rivera 1 Pernell Whitaker 2
M 31.10.1998 Featherweight W UD Naseem Hamed 1 Wayne McCullough 2
M 13.03.1999 Heavyweight D SD Lennox Lewis 1 Evander Holyfield 2
M 18.09.1999 Welterweight L MD Oscar De La Hoya 1 Felix Trinidad 2
M 13.11.1999 Heavyweight W UD Lennox Lewis 1 Evander Holyfield 2
M 29.04.2000 Heavyweight W KO Lennox Lewis 1 Michael Grant 2
M 07.10.2000 Featherweight L UD Johnny Tapia 1 Paulie Ayala 2
M 17.11.2001 Heavyweight L KO Hasim Rahman 1 Lennox Lewis 2
M 20.07.2002 Light Heavyweight W TKO Antonio Tarver 1 Eric Harding 2
M 08.05.2004 Featherweight D SD Manny Pacquiao 1 Juan Manuel Marquez 2
M 05.06.2004 Middleweight W UD Bernard Hopkins 1 Robert Allen 2
M 31.07.2004 Super Featherweight W UD Erik Morales 1 Carlos Hernandez 2
M 18.12.2004 Light Heavyweight L SD Antonio Tarver 1 Glen Johnson 2
M 18.06.2005 Light Heavyweight L UD Glen Johnson 1 Antonio Tarver 2
M 26.11.2005 Light Welterweight L KO Carlos Maussa 1 Ricky Hatton 2
M 07.01.2006 Cruiserweight W KO O'Neil Bell 1 Jean Marc Mormeck 2
M 04.03.2006 Featherweight L UD Juan Manuel Marquez 1 Chris John 2
M 17.06.2006 Middleweight D PTS Ronald Wright 1 Jermain Taylor 2
M 15.03.2008 Super Featherweight W SD Manny Pacquiao 1 Juan Manuel Marquez 2
M 17.05.2008 Super Flyweight L SD Alexander Munoz 1 Cristian Mijares 2
M 07.11.2009 Light Heavyweight L UD Glen Johnson 1 Chad Dawson 2
M 13.03.2010 Welterweight W UD Manny Pacquiao 1 Joshua Clottey 2
M 15.05.2010 Light Welterweight W TKO Amir Khan 1 Paul Malignaggi 2

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 06:21
by computerrank
computerrank wrote:
JCS wrote:Hopkins should be at the top for his recent win, or is the data old?
Sorry, you are right. The data on the test server are from Oct 2010 latest ...

I will contact John ...
... now the complete one ...

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| date       | last_name  | first_name   | division            | age     | title |
+------------+------------+--------------+---------------------+---------+-------+
| 2011-05-21 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Light Heavyweight   | 46.3449 | IBO   |
| 2011-05-21 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Light Heavyweight   | 46.3449 | WBC   |
| 1995-04-22 | Foreman    | George       | Heavyweight         | 46.2792 | IBF   |
| 1994-11-05 | Foreman    | George       | Heavyweight         | 45.8192 | WBA   |
| 1994-11-05 | Foreman    | George       | Heavyweight         | 45.8192 | IBF   |
| 2011-07-20 | Tarver     | Antonio      | Cruiserweight       | 42.6596 | IBO   |
| 2001-10-06 | Djelti     | Affif        | Super Featherweight | 42.1120 | IBO   |
| 2006-01-27 | Hill       | Virgil       | Cruiserweight       | 42.0272 | WBA   |
| 1997-12-19 | Malinga    | Thulani      | Super Middleweight  | 42.0244 | WBC   |
| 2006-06-10 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Light Heavyweight   | 41.4002 | IBO   |
| 2000-10-28 | Djelti     | Affif        | Super Featherweight | 41.1729 | IBO   |
| 2000-07-01 | Djelti     | Affif        | Super Featherweight | 40.8471 | IBO   |
| 2000-02-26 | Djelti     | Affif        | Super Featherweight | 40.5021 | IBO   |
| 1999-04-10 | Hearns     | Thomas       | Cruiserweight       | 40.4775 | IBO   |
| 2004-09-10 | Thompson   | Carl         | Cruiserweight       | 40.2941 | IBO   |
| 1996-03-02 | Malinga    | Thulani      | Super Middleweight  | 40.2256 | WBC   |
| 2005-02-19 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 40.0969 | WBC   |
| 2005-02-19 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 40.0969 | IBF   |
| 2005-02-19 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 40.0969 | WBO   |
| 2004-02-06 | Thompson   | Carl         | Cruiserweight       | 39.6999 | IBO   |
| 2004-09-18 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 39.6753 | WBC   |
| 2004-09-18 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 39.6753 | IBF   |
| 2004-09-18 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 39.6753 | WBO   |
| 2011-03-19 | Klitschko  | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 39.6671 | WBC   |
| 2010-09-04 | Lazarte    | Luis Alberto | Light Flyweight     | 39.5055 | IBF   |
| 2008-04-12 | Tarver     | Antonio      | Light Heavyweight   | 39.3905 | IBO   |
| 2008-04-12 | Tarver     | Antonio      | Light Heavyweight   | 39.3905 | IBF   |
| 2004-06-05 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 39.3878 | WBC   |
| 2004-06-05 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 39.3878 | IBF   |
| 1997-04-14 | Zaragoza   | Daniel       | Super Bantamweight  | 39.3413 | WBC   |
| 2011-04-19 | Rachman    | Muhammad     | Minimumweight       | 39.3221 | WBA   |
| 2010-10-16 | Klitschko  | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 39.2454 | WBC   |
| 2010-05-29 | Lazarte    | Luis Alberto | Light Flyweight     | 39.2372 | IBF   |
| 1977-10-30 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 39.2153 | WBC   |
| 2000-04-08 | Grant      | Uriah        | Cruiserweight       | 39.2153 | IBO   |
| 2008-10-24 | Fragomeni  | Giacobbe     | Cruiserweight       | 39.1989 | WBC   |
| 1977-09-18 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 39.1003 | WBC   |
| 2010-09-18 | N'dou      | Lovemore     | Welterweight        | 39.0921 | IBO   |
| 1997-01-11 | Zaragoza   | Daniel       | Super Bantamweight  | 39.0866 | WBC   |
| 2007-12-01 | Tarver     | Antonio      | Light Heavyweight   | 39.0264 | IBO   |
| 1977-08-21 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 39.0237 | WBC   |
| 1977-07-17 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 38.9278 | WBC   |
| 2003-12-13 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 38.9087 | WBC   |
| 2003-12-13 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 38.9087 | IBF   |
| 2005-11-26 | Nelson     | Johnny       | Cruiserweight       | 38.8950 | WBO   |
| 2010-05-29 | Klitschko  | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 38.8621 | WBC   |
| 1977-05-15 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 38.7553 | WBC   |
| 1996-07-20 | Zaragoza   | Daniel       | Super Bantamweight  | 38.6075 | WBC   |
| 2007-06-09 | Tarver     | Antonio      | Light Heavyweight   | 38.5473 | IBO   |
| 2010-10-02 | Jones      | Guillermo    | Cruiserweight       | 38.4104 | WBA   |
| 2009-12-12 | Klitschko  | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 38.4021 | WBC   |
| 2008-03-27 | Phillips   | Verno        | Light Middleweight  | 38.3255 | IBF   |
| 2006-07-15 | Castillejo | Javier       | Middleweight        | 38.3145 | WBA   |
| 1976-11-21 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 38.2762 | WBC   |
| 1967-11-17 | Tiger      | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 38.2598 | WBC   |
| 1967-11-17 | Tiger      | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 38.2598 | WBA   |
| 1996-03-03 | Zaragoza   | Daniel       | Super Bantamweight  | 38.2269 | WBC   |
| 1995-02-25 | McCallum   | Mike         | Light Heavyweight   | 38.2187 | WBC   |
| 2003-03-29 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 38.1995 | IBF   |
| 2003-03-29 | Hopkins    | Bernard      | Middleweight        | 38.1995 | WBC   |
| 2009-09-26 | Klitschko  | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 38.1913 | WBC   |
| 2011-06-25 | Bundrage   | Cornelius    | Light Middleweight  | 38.1667 | IBF   |
| 1976-09-26 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 38.1229 | WBC   |
| 2008-05-31 | Mbityi     | Zolile       | Super Flyweight     | 37.9887 | IBO   |
| 1976-07-18 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 37.9312 | WBC   |
| 2004-05-01 | Masoe      | Maselino     | Middleweight        | 37.9038 | WBA   |
| 1995-11-06 | Zaragoza   | Daniel       | Super Bantamweight  | 37.9038 | WBC   |
| 2009-07-11 | N'dou      | Lovemore     | Welterweight        | 37.9038 | IBO   |
| 1996-06-01 | Nelson     | Azumah       | Super Featherweight | 37.8710 | WBC   |
| 1992-03-21 | Londas     | Daniel       | Super Featherweight | 37.8463 | WBO   |
| 2000-08-12 | Holyfield  | Evander      | Heavyweight         | 37.8162 | WBA   |
| 2003-06-21 | Lewis      | Lennox       | Heavyweight         | 37.7998 | WBC   |
| 2003-06-21 | Lewis      | Lennox       | Heavyweight         | 37.7998 | IBO   |
| 2006-12-10 | Maskaev    | Oleg         | Heavyweight         | 37.7752 | WBC   |
| 1967-05-16 | Tiger      | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 37.7533 | WBA   |
| 1967-05-16 | Tiger      | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 37.7533 | WBC   |
| 1976-05-02 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 37.7204 | WBC   |
| 1989-02-24 | Duran      | Roberto      | Middleweight        | 37.6958 | WBC   |
| 2010-11-17 | Green      | Danny        | Cruiserweight       | 37.6930 | IBO   |
| 2009-03-21 | Klitschko  | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 37.6739 | WBC   |
| 2008-09-13 | Forrest    | Vernon       | Light Middleweight  | 37.6711 | WBC   |
| 2004-09-04 | Nelson     | Johnny       | Cruiserweight       | 37.6684 | WBO   |
| 1994-07-23 | McCallum   | Mike         | Light Heavyweight   | 37.6246 | WBC   |
| 2008-05-03 | Arslan     | Firat        | Cruiserweight       | 37.5972 | WBA   |
| 1973-10-21 | Jofre      | Eder         | Featherweight       | 37.5726 | WBC   |
| 1976-02-14 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 37.5068 | WBC   |
| 2006-08-12 | Maskaev    | Oleg         | Heavyweight         | 37.4466 | WBC   |
| 1995-12-01 | Nelson     | Azumah       | Super Featherweight | 37.3699 | WBC   |
| 2010-07-21 | Green      | Danny        | Cruiserweight       | 37.3672 | IBO   |
| 1975-12-17 | Estaba     | Luis         | Light Flyweight     | 37.3453 | WBC   |
| 1966-12-16 | Tiger      | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 37.3398 | WBC   |
| 1966-12-16 | Tiger      | Dick         | Light Heavyweight   | 37.3398 | WBA   |
| 2010-08-07 | Bundrage   | Cornelius    | Light Middleweight  | 37.2851 | IBF   |
| 1997-11-08 | Vazquez    | Wilfredo     | Featherweight       | 37.2686 | WBA   |
| 2010-11-27 | Marquez    | Juan Manuel  | Lightweight         | 37.2632 | WBO   |
| 2008-10-11 | Klitschko  | Vitali       | Heavyweight         | 37.2331 | WBC   |
| 1991-01-19 | Andries    | Dennis       | Light Heavyweight   | 37.2057 | WBC   |
| 2005-11-27 | Joval      | Raymond      | Middleweight        | 37.2002 | IBO   |
| 2000-10-09 | Gamez      | Leo          | Super Flyweight     | 37.1728 | WBA   |
| 2003-03-08 | Sanders    | Corrie       | Heavyweight         | 37.1646 | WBO   |
+------------+------------+--------------+---------------------+---------+-------+

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 07:49
by M0ntY
I have a question regarding the bout rating for Lamont Peterson vs Victor Cayo. It is a 4 star fight according to the boxrec fight schedule. However, per the Bout Star Ratings description, both boxers must have at least 188 points for their fight to be a 4 star, and Victor Cayo currently has 173 points. How so?

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 08:17
by computerrank
M0ntY wrote:I have a question regarding the bout rating for Lamont Peterson vs Victor Cayo. It is a 4 star fight according to the boxrec fight schedule. However, per the Bout Star Ratings description, both boxers must have at least 188 points for their fight to be a 4 star, and Victor Cayo currently has 173 points. How so?
If you look at Cayo's record list you can find 173 points after his last bout at welterweight.

But Cayo is ranked #24 at light welterweight, and there this is equivalent to 190 points.

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=M&div ... t&pageID=1

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 09:17
by M0ntY
Got it, thanks!

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 02 Aug 2011, 10:45
by conan_the_cribber
Why did Haye lose 140 rating points before his fight with Klitschko?

He went from 738 post Harrison to 598 pre Wlad. He didn't fight anyone in there, nor did he change division.

Thanks

conan

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 02 Aug 2011, 10:47
by JCS
conan_the_cribber wrote:Why did Haye lose 140 rating points before his fight with Klitschko?

He went from 738 post Harrison to 598 pre Wlad. He didn't fight anyone in there, nor did he change division.

Thanks

conan
Poor opposition penalty

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 02 Aug 2011, 11:45
by conan_the_cribber
Obviously a bit of fine tuning needed, as Haye fought Valuev (top 5) and Ruiz (top 20) and Harrison (top 40) in the last two years. Seems like a harsh penalty. I don't know the details.

conan

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 02 Aug 2011, 11:47
by JCS
conan_the_cribber wrote:Obviously a bit of fine tuning needed, as Haye fought Valuev (top 5) and Ruiz (top 20) and Harrison (top 40) in the last two years. Seems like a harsh penalty. I don't know the details.

conan
I think it's based on previous 18 months.

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 05:31
by conan_the_cribber
JCS wrote:
conan_the_cribber wrote:Obviously a bit of fine tuning needed, as Haye fought Valuev (top 5) and Ruiz (top 20) and Harrison (top 40) in the last two years. Seems like a harsh penalty. I don't know the details.

conan
I think it's based on previous 18 months.
Yeah, well, I'd have to say that needs tuning. The way today's world works with most Marquee fighters fighting twice a year (max), means that the combination below will result in an opposition penalty.

Jan 2000 Mega Fight
Okt 2001 Crap Mandatory
Jul 2002 Mega Fight (-ve opposition factor).

I think a better solution would be to take into account, who the fighter is fighting on the night, before activating the penalty. In this case, Haye is being penalised for his opposition despite stepping up to the plate to fight the best fighter available in Wlad. There is clearly something wrong penalising someone for fighting the best. I would suggest distinguishing between the scenarios below.

Jan 2000 vs Fighter A Mega Fight
Okt 2001 vs Fighter B Crap Mandatory
Jul 2002 vs Fighter C Mega Fight (no penalty)

and

Jan 2000 vs Fighter A Mega Fight
Okt 2001 vs Fighter B Crap Mandatory
Jul 2002 vs Fighter D Another crap defence (penalty)

Fighters like Anthony Mundine will be punished for continually fighting sub-standard domestic fighters over long periods of time and fighters like Wlad and Bute won't be punished for fighting whoever's out there, plus what they can get. In Wlad's case, everyone is below him and Bute, because of the Super6 shutout.

conan

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 11:14
by JCS
I understand what you mean conan.

I think how it works is.. everyday, an 18 month lookback is performed. If a fighter didn't fight someone within 50% of their current rating, they are penalized up to 50% based on the pre-fight rating of the best opponent.

In other words, if I have 650 points today, and the best opponent in the past 18 months was 300 points (46.1%), I am penalized 3.9%. IMO, this is pretty harsh.. I'd probably only penalize if the best opponent didn't reach 25 or 33%.

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 18:15
by conan_the_cribber
JCS wrote:I understand what you mean conan.

I think how it works is.. everyday, an 18 month lookback is performed. If a fighter didn't fight someone within 50% of their current rating, they are penalized up to 50% based on the pre-fight rating of the best opponent.

In other words, if I have 650 points today, and the best opponent in the past 18 months was 300 points (46.1%), I am penalized 3.9%. IMO, this is pretty harsh.. I'd probably only penalize if the best opponent didn't reach 25 or 33%.
So the Klits will be continually penalised unless they fight each other? As the nearest fighter currently is Adamek with 45% of the lower Klitschko. NO algorithm can fit every case, but getting a points penalty for fighter the 3rd best fighter in your division is really odd. Same with Haye, getting penalised for fighting the best.

ComputerRank, are you listening? I think the time frame next to be extended and 50% is really high for Marquee fighters. hard to find opponents that fit that criteria.

conan

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 19:50
by Asterix
I think the percentage being lowered would be a good move. I'm not so sure about the time period being extended, though. I like there being a penalty for fighting rarely. I think 24 months is too kind.

Re: Boxrec Ratings - Read first before commenting on the ratings

Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 23:12
by Lackeos
conan_the_cribber wrote:So the Klits will be continually penalised unless they fight each other?
More or less. Look at Wlad's rating from the Peter fight to the Haye fight. After he beat Sam Peter, he was 1497. Prior to fighting Haye, he dropped to 1260. After beating Haye, he rose to 1323. You would have thought he'd be at a lifetime high rating after beating Haye, right? Nope, his rating actually dropped. Which of course would not have happened unless Haye's rating also dropped. But then again, Haye had so many people convinced that he was such a legit bad-ass, and he wasn't even fighting top 25 opponents. If Haye couldn't have even fought some mediocre top 25 fighter like Juan Carlos Gomez, Ray Austin, Dereck Chisora, etc., then he probably wasn't such a great challenger after all.