bengulnaci1 wrote:boxingchat wrote:The quote in a Boxing News letter summed it up perfectly.
"If you don't stand behind our Soldiers, please feel free to stand in front of them"
Brutal war crimes against innocent ppl, invading another country, all in the name of 'fighting terrorism'. Just who here are the terrorists?
'Our Soldiers' have no business over there, as they did not in Iraq.
Mr Ayling, your sudden bout of patriotism. is a pathetic attempt to garner support for your boss and his organisation, at the expense of innocent ppl, children ffs....You put down Small and try to justify it by turning this into some jingostic theme.
Human life, ppl you never see or hear about are obviously of little importance to you, in the grand scheme of righteousness - go you!
First of all for the unteenth time I am not Mr Ailing ffs. Secondly, Soldiers will be the first to tell you they go whereever the government or Queen sends them. Thats their duty and they are aware of this obligation when they sign up and the possible consequences of doing so. They are brave young men and women who deserve our unconditional support and respect regardless of the political issues surrounding their involvement wherever.
On the same basis of argument, were we wrong to stand up for Poland in 1939? Where we wrong to stand up againt Nazi Germany as they hadn't done anything to us at that point had they? Is prevention not better than cure? Has anyone thought of the outcome if our armed forces didn't protect out land, democracy and lifestyle?
Of course their are casulties of war and that is sad in every way and when women and children and innocent people perish its a terrible tragedy and waste but the fact remains, that these servicemen and women serve their country - that's us, me and you, and their contribution should be respected by all and they did not deserve to be insulted and heckled by Small and his mob upon their return hiome with their families and children watching, simple as that.
Protest to the Politicians if you disagree with the war and our involvement in these troubled zones- fine, I have no problem with that whatsoever. The Armed Forces do not make the decisions, the Politicians do.
However, above all, you must not forget what these Terrorists did in perfectly peaceful cities in London, New York and Washington where many innocent people (some their supoosed Muslim brothers and Sisters) perished in horrific circumstances. These Terrorists were trained in Afghanistan and the facts are that Taliban regime did fornicate all to stop them being trained there. No Soldier would be in Afghanistan if it were not for these Terrorists training and hiding out in the country so sorry, I disagree with your sentiments.
Good Muslims, who outnumber the bad by millions to one I might add, despise these acts and any suggestion that they are being done in their name and it's only the loony few that have brought the world to this mire of violence. In this country, we are a fairly liberal nation
and as such gave Small the opportunity to self publicise himself and offend the majority of the population. If the shoe (or sandal) were on the other foot and an Englishman was protesting in Kabul or the old Baghdad agsint their ways, he'd no doubt be beheaded live on the evening news. British citizens, workers not Soldiers, have been kidnapped and beheaded by these people remember. British citizens have been executed by these loons and this is enough for our forces to go to work.
Is it worth the thousands of lives? Was the Falkands really worth it, the SAS storming the Iranian Embassy? I remember Thatcher saying something like; "Some people may say that these islands (the Falklands) are nothing more than farms and acres of sheep grazing land and not worth a war and we should negotiate with Argentina for a peaceful compromise. They invaded British Soil, they didn't seek negotiation, so remember, as our taskforce sets sail to the South Atlantic, that the Falkland Islanders are our people, British people, they are our farms and it's OUR bloody sheep grazing land."
The bottom line is, if Small didn't want this backlash then he should have stayed away from Barking and not heckled the very people who's job it is to protect us all, including him and his kin.
If he wants to protest there are many ways in which he could have put his point across without causing offence and used his minor celebrity in a decent way. Heckling is not peaceful protest. He chose the method and he alone is responsible for the backlash he has received which I would assume has all but ended his Boxing career.
As a former British champion and minor celebrity he must have been aware he would be seen and his involvement highlighted - yes he's a Boxer, hence the discussion on here - but ultimately he's an idiot who chose to protest and insult people at the most inappropriate time and to the most inappropriate group, all from the safety of a Police corden.
The people are doing their duty, it is not their jobs to question, but to serve and God bless them all I say.
