Re: Ovill Mckenzie vs Enzo Maccarinelli
Posted: 10 Nov 2012, 07:43
Not a great deal on the line though was there.
Only health, well being and possibly lives (ok lives is a bit dramatic) :)Kilburn wrote:Not a great deal on the line though was there.
allahsnackbar wrote:Na m8, I'll stick by what I've said. Of the thousands and thousands of rounds I've watched as a punter, or at shows I've worked on or even watched from my nice comfy sofa, in the grand scheme of things I've seen worse. It's not "the worst stoppage ever" but it's up there. As I said its a stinker and would I have stopped it? I'd like to say no but it's Enzo were talking about here so who knows. I'm surprised he didn't get knocked out given that a couple of shots actually got through. Should IJL be sacked, possibly, will th board do it possibly not.
Ike Williams v Beau Jack[/quote]forcefraser wrote:allahsnackbar wrote:Na m8, I'll stick by what I've said. Of the thousands and thousands of rounds I've watched as a punter, or at shows I've worked on or even watched from my nice comfy sofa, in the grand scheme of things I've seen worse. It's not "the worst stoppage ever" but it's up there. As I said its a stinker and would I have stopped it? I'd like to say no but it's Enzo were talking about here so who knows. I'm surprised he didn't get knocked out given that a couple of shots actually got through. Should IJL be sacked, possibly, will th board do it possibly not.
If that's not the worst stoppage ever then mention another one that was worse
G0mez wrote:When Jamie Cox fought that African Sai, and was given the disgraceful decision in a fight he clearly lost.....
And he scored Purdy vs Colin Lynes a draw !
Yep agree mate, a lot is made of this 'we must protect the boxers' to trya nd gloss over some absolutely shocking early stoppages. End of the day, there has to be a certain element of danger to the sport or we all may as well go home and play chess.Jeff Thomas wrote:I don't like slagging refs, I personally find them all really amiable and friendly. However they are stopping fights too quick. I've never heard of a boxer being injured by a fight going on too long. You must remember that in MMA a man can be prone unconsious taking shots and still no one has being seriously injured on any western shows.
Edit: Watson Vs Eubank..... but perhaps a corner intervention would have saved any hesitation on the referees part. These days they border on ridiculous.
I'd rather not see him in the ring if I'm honest, but if he's in there I'd rather see him given a fair chance to win or lose, just like everyone else, not given some sort of special 'Enzo reffing'.The Dark Destroyer wrote:I agree this was too early but do you think it's because of Enzo? He's taken a lot in the last couple of years, being allowed to take that shot from Frenkel when he was clearly finished was poor reffing, I'd rather see him stopped too early rather than too late like that again.
11?JamesH wrote:In a top ten of bad decisions over the past three or four years, how often would IJL feature?
rhino222 wrote:11?JamesH wrote:In a top ten of bad decisions over the past three or four years, how often would IJL feature?
The Insider wrote:Off the top of my head without delving through my records etc
McIntosh v McDermot
Griffith v Paret
Calzaghe v Manfredo (say what you want, Enzo was in worse condition than Manfredo when stopped)
Garcia v Benton
Dempsey v Willard
The list goes on.....
Manfredo didn't land a punch in the final round. To compare a guy who is completely out of his depth like Manfredo was, to what happened on Friday, shows a shocking misrepresentation of facts. It might have been a soft stoppage, but Manfredo froze and wasn't fighting backLivingstone Cole wrote:You can't counter by shouting 'Bullshit!' and coming up with an absolute steaming shit of an argument!gobbles wrote:The Insider wrote:Off the top of my head without delving through my records etc
McIntosh v McDermot
Griffith v Paret
Calzaghe v Manfredo (say what you want, Enzo was in worse condition than Manfredo when stopped)
Garcia v Benton
Dempsey v Willard
The list goes on.....
Bullsh1t. While Manfredo may not have been hurt, Calzaghe landed 40 unanswered punches and Manfredo did not throw anything back.
Enzo wasn't hurt, landed a goo left uppercut just before, McKenzie was wasting a lot of energy missing wildly and has always been a 5-6 round fighter.
No way, no how did Calzaghe land 40 punches in that final flurry. No way.
He might have thrown about 10 punches and about 20 wide slaps, a few of which might have gotten through, but landing 40 punches? You must be mad.
Manfredo didn't throw a punch for 8 seconds whilst Calzaghe windmilled at a high guard.
That stoppage was as soft as shite.
I was referring to Buckley's career not Enzo's well being.The Insider wrote:Only health, well being and possibly lives (ok lives is a bit dramatic) :)Kilburn wrote:Not a great deal on the line though was there.
You've answered your own question there you fool. So should a ref step in when a fighter isn't hurt (cuts etc aside)? Enzo was hit with a few clean punches that clearly rocked his head and he had no intention of firing back as the long delay proved when the Legend that is IJL stepped in. Manfredo got slapped to fvck and was still moving when stopped and was in no danger.gobbles wrote:
Bullsh1t. While Manfredo may not have been hurt......