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expe wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:

expe wrote: No evidence, but Hobson has mentioned outside influences and numerous fighters seem to be leaving their promoters(usually warren) and signing for Hearn days later. For a contract to be agreed, read through by lawyers, signed and announced in such a short space of time is pushing it, Stephen Smith moved very quickly. I'm not questioning the rights of fighters to leave their promoters if there's a breach of contract, just that they seem to all move to the same promoter and very quickly, suggesting negotiations may have started before the termination of the contract.

You are cooking stuff up in you head. Your first 2 words answered the question. Things can easily happen that quickly. Look at football. What other promoter would they move to?

In football a player can speak to other clubs 6 months from the end of his contract and agents will be making overtures before that, plus, footballers can engineer moves very easily, with transfer fees to compensate the current club, for a fighter, to walk away from a promotional contract isn't always easy. Footballers are paid weekly, so they have a guaranteed source of income, whereas boxers have to wait for the next fight to get paid, unless they are paid a retainer. So they would want to be sure about what they are signing.

fightacademy wrote: Wrong information I had a phone call regarding the fight with Gavin v Barry at the time Gavin was on holiday and I went to Vegas day before he was back which left 6 weeks to the date offered iv worked hard to get Gavin in MADATORY position so why would I take a fight in 6 weeks notice who gets ready for a 12 rounds British title fight in 6 week when he's mandatory?? Iv now got Gavin a tv deal he is not boxing on my show in December I put the list on before he beat Josh Wale and if he does fight on my bill it will only be a tick over 6 rounder at a few weight higher.. We want the fight why would I get him to mandatory if we didn't want it. Too many boxing fans read too much poo on social network work sites and don't know the facts. And as for Jamie he's had 3 fights in 2 year kid just wants to fight to pay his bills not paying bills been inactive is he.. Pro boxing let's remember is a business as well as a sport you get 1 go at this game it's the fighter getting in the ring putting his life at risk they diserve what ever they can get IMO

Pugilist-specialist wrote:

fightacademy wrote: Wrong information I had a phone call regarding the fight with Gavin v Barry at the time Gavin was on holiday and I went to Vegas day before he was back which left 6 weeks to the date offered iv worked hard to get Gavin in MADATORY position so why would I take a fight in 6 weeks notice who gets ready for a 12 rounds British title fight in 6 week when he's mandatory?? Iv now got Gavin a tv deal he is not boxing on my show in December I put the list on before he beat Josh Wale and if he does fight on my bill it will only be a tick over 6 rounder at a few weight higher.. We want the fight why would I get him to mandatory if we didn't want it. Too many boxing fans read too much poo on social network work sites and don't know the facts. And as for Jamie he's had 3 fights in 2 year kid just wants to fight to pay his bills not paying bills been inactive is he.. Pro boxing let's remember is a business as well as a sport you get 1 go at this game it's the fighter getting in the ring putting his life at risk they diserve what ever they can get IMO

"Reading poo on social network sites"
Yes as Gavin was on holiday at the time and when he got back I was away I came back today so how could we be ready for middle of sept when it's now midd October ? Gavin is madatory and deserves his full notice for such a big fight.. That's what I was stating Gavin now as a tv so we will be putting a purse bid in. N my quote on Jamie was just stating the fact he's had 3 fights in 2 years would you be happy with that as a fighter? And only resent recieved his full money from his world title fight.. Only time he got paid on time was when he boxed on a matchroom show in that eliminator.
It was off your twitter account Steffy. On 3 Oct you said he wouldn't be ready for a fight over 8 weeks away.
One part of your post is about a boxer not getting enough fights and another part is about his twin turning down a fight because one of his trainers is going to Vegas 7 weeks before a fight.

Pugilist-specialist wrote:I don't understand what you mean by mid-September?
Gavin boxed on 28 September. 5 days later you said he wouldn't be ready for 30 November.
You're saying he won't box 6 days later (Dec 6) but then in the same sentence he might box but at several weights higher?
Your last post is difficult to read. Are you saying Jamie hasn't been paid for fights?
You were obviously a big fan of Dennis once upon a time, otherwise you wouldn't have chosen the name of his promotional company as your username.

Pugilist-specialist wrote:It's 5 weeks now!
Gavin was back with almost 8 weeks before the Nov 30th date. Considering he'd boxed a couple of weeks before, is that not long enough?
I've never heard of a boxer pulling out of a fight because his manager went on holiday 7 weeks before.
Galahad had a tough fight 2 weeks before Gavin. But then again he was in the gym and not tweeting pictures of booze.

fightacademy wrote:

Pugilist-specialist wrote: If Gavin wants to have a beer on HOLIDAY after training 10 weeks 3 times a day for a final eliminator and wins IMO he's allowed to tweet pics of booze on his holiday

Champfan10 wrote:
Whats the rush for Galahad, what difference would 4-6 weeks make?

fightacademy wrote: If I want Gavin on my bill in a little keep busy fight then I will..

Pugilist-specialist wrote:

fightacademy wrote: If I want Gavin on my bill in a little keep busy fight then I will..

Fair enough. It just seems pointless to keep vehemently denying that he is on the show.

palooka wrote:

expe wrote:

jackukmma wrote:Hobson had tv offers but turned them down. He's employed as a promoter. He failed to promote the fight properly. He delivered the fight assumed people would turn up and put his feet up thinking his job was done. If he's done what I have heard he's done it's despicable really. Especially as he's painted himself as the innocent party. I hope it all comes our

You've said the exact same thing earlier in this thread. The fight was live on primetime, Hobson's other option was Sky, where he would have been forced into a co-promotion with Eddie Hearn, forcing him to lose even more money. 4,000 people showed up for an unknown fighter at bantamweight, hardly a popular division here and McDonnell made £160,000, far more than Burns, Cleverly and Froch made for their first world title fights. He forked out for Ceja to travel to Doncaster, managed to get Howard Foster, another Doncaster man, as referee and Dave Parris as one of the judges, I fail to see what more he could have done. You suggest he's done something 'despicable', possibly pressurising the IBF to strip Jamie, exactly what he deserves. He lined up a TV deal with Allegedly channel for future fights and was seemingly ready to announce the first defence. For a man with no TV deal, a limited fighter who's rarely in exciting fights and has no major fanbase, I'd say he did a brilliant job, only to be fucked over by a combination of McDonnell and Eddie Hearn performing his usual role of tapping up fighter's under contract. Hobson isn't employed as a promoter either, McDonnell is or was employed by him as a fighter.

Thank feck for that I felt like King Canute

Pugilist-specialist wrote:Galahad "in limo" not limbo:

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/boxing/g ... -1-6166855

jackukmma wrote:http://www.BS.com/jamie-mcdonn ... him--70885

Full statement from McDonnell. Those accusing Jamie of being disloyal and sticking up for Hobson without seeing the other side of the story look a bit daft now. Hope the appeal overturns the decision and reinstates him

Parson Cross wrote:Jackuk
With respect that statement adds nothing to the case nor detracts from it because it does not provide any evidence one way or the other. It us simply Jamie's version of events - so for instance Dennis says yes the mandatory was discussed its one persons word against the other.
Regardless of that I find it incredulous that Jamie didn't know anything about the 6 months mandatory situation - I'm only a fan and I heard about it.