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Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 18:56
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 18:55 Hmm, not sure at the moment on the exact order in which I'd have those 10 fighters who rank above Louis, need to confirm a couple of placing. They all rate above Joe though
Dearl Lord man! Just list your top 10 without regard to Louis. Are you on the sauce?

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 18:58
by margaret thatcher
Read my posts again and you should be able to get a rough idea , hard to reduce it to just 10 though, even with Joe not making the shortlist

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 18:59
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 18:58 Read my posts again and you should be able to get a rough idea , hard to reduce it to just 10 though, even with Joe not making the shortlist
Just what I thought.

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:01
by margaret thatcher
If you actually had thought you could list enough of those names for a top 10 yourself :TU:

I've got even more than that though, not sure on the exact order of all these guys. Louis might make top 20

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:03
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:01 If you actually had thought you could list enough of those names for a top 10 yourself :TU:

I've got even more than that though, not sure on the exact order of all these guys. Louis might make top 20
Whatev. Let me know when you post a true list like you clamour for others to do. Weak bruh.

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:04
by margaret thatcher
If I say someone isn't top 10, I'll actually have at least 10 fighters above them, though I know some struggle with that and get sensitive when questioned about it . In this case I have more than that :TU:

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:07
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 18:52 Floyd > Joe easy
Give us the why

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:08
by margaret thatcher
Why not bruh? Just as much longevity, outmatched him for quality, and did so with fewer hiccups than Jo Jo

Like I said, Manny has a strong case himself

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:09
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:04 If I say someone isn't top 10, I'll actually have at least 10 fighters above them, though I know some struggle with that and get sensitive when questioned about it . In this case I have more than that :TU:
Say what you want. I provided what you asked. Grow a pair and give us your top 10 P4P of all time. C'mon lad. You can do it.

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:10
by margaret thatcher
oogiebe wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:09
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:04 If I say someone isn't top 10, I'll actually have at least 10 fighters above them, though I know some struggle with that and get sensitive when questioned about it . In this case I have more than that :TU:
Say what you want. I provided what you asked. Grow a pair and give us your top 10 P4P of all time. C'mon lad. You can do it.
I already explained this to you :TU:

All the names are there, I 've got more than 10 guys above Jo Jo , haven't ordered them all exactly to each other, never claimed I did :TU:

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:10
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:08 Why not bruh? Just as much longevity, outmatched him for quality, and did so with fewer hiccups than Jo Jo

Like I said, Manny has a strong case himself
So you can't make your own argument?

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:11
by margaret thatcher
Lol I just told you why , can you not read? Tell me why not then :TU:

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:13
by oogiebe
So this is clear cut to you?

Pac-man 1995-Current (25 years)
62-7-2 (39 KO's)

Has a record of 19-4-2 (9 KOs) in world title fights.
Has a record of 25-6-2 (11 KOs) against former, current, and future world champions

Joe Louis 1934-1951 (17 Years)
66-3 (52 KO's)

Has a record of 26-1 (22 KOs) in world title fights.
Has a record of 10-3 (9 KOs) against former, current, and future world champions

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:15
by margaret thatcher
Those are just numbers , say little about the specifics of how, though of course Manny actually has a better win to loss ratio vs other champs

I never said Manny was clear cut either btw, Floyd is for sure though :TU:

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:15
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:10
oogiebe wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:09
Say what you want. I provided what you asked. Grow a pair and give us your top 10 P4P of all time. C'mon lad. You can do it.
I already explained this to you :TU:

All the names are there, I 've got more than 10 guys above Jo Jo , haven't ordered them all exactly to each other, never claimed I did :TU:
It's fine you have Joe so low on your list. I just want to see the list in order. I can understand having Louis down like Gil does.
I'd just like a Quid Pro Quo. Why are you so scared to provide?

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:17
by oogiebe
Full of questions but not answers. Weak. Disappointed in you man. Thought better of you.

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:18
by margaret thatcher
Lol I haven't even ordered all those guys, their order has nothing to do with Joe really either, you are hung up on an irrelevant point. Now if I said a guy could no way be top 10 but then had no idea of 10 guys I could rank higher and got offended when asked, then that would be silly, but I've left that to others :lol:

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:19
by margaret thatcher
oogiebe wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:17 Full of questions but not answers. Weak. Disappointed in you man. Thought better of you.
Never said it was clear cut, and if you want to know based on those numbers you can't tell, gotta go deeper. Manny and Joe aren't clear cut, pretty similar

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:21
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:11 Lol I just told you why , can you not read? Tell me why not then :TU:
So I need to make an argument because you can't?

Oogiebe just made an argument for ya. I'm not oogiebe.

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:22
by margaret thatcher
gilgamesh wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:21
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:11 Lol I just told you why , can you not read? Tell me why not then :TU:
So I need to make an argument because you can't?

Oogiebe just made an argument for ya. I'm not oogiebe.
Wtf are you talking about, read above, I gave reasons :TU:

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:23
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:22
gilgamesh wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:21

So I need to make an argument because you can't?

Oogiebe just made an argument for ya. I'm not oogiebe.
Wtf are you talking about, read above, I gave reasons :TU:
Detailed reasons genius. If you're gonna knock someone's place off a Pound for Pound list it's in the details.

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:24
by margaret thatcher
gilgamesh wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:23
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:22

Wtf are you talking about, read above, I gave reasons :TU:
Detailed reasons genius. If you're gonna knock someone's place off a Pound for Pound list it's in the details.
I gave you reasons, feel free to tell me what is wrong about them and why Floyd isnt higher :TU:

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:26
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:24
gilgamesh wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:23

Detailed reasons genius. If you're gonna knock someone's place off a Pound for Pound list it's in the details.
I gave you reasons, feel free to tell me what is wrong about them and why Floyd isnt higher :TU:
Again you're asking me to make your argument for ya.

I'm done with ya man. If you want more commentary make YOUR case. I've made mine.

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:27
by margaret thatcher
Lol wtf is wrong with you man, I told you why Floyd is higher, are you dumb today or something :lol:

I'm the only one who presented any reasons in terms of Floyd vs Joe, so you arn't making any case there bruhster :TU:

Re: Is Muhammad Ali in Everybody's 'Top 10'

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 19:35
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 19:27 Lol wtf is wrong with you man, I told you why Floyd is higher, are you dumb today or something :lol:

I'm the only one who presented any reasons in terms of Floyd vs Joe, so you arn't making any case there bruhster :TU:
On the contrary, I gave reasons why I rank Joe where I rank him. I listed accomplishments. I named names.

You've done nothing of the sort

If this were a Debate Team battle. You lost.