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According to Boxing Scene :

"Golovkin is going to push to fight the winner of Geale vs Cotto next."

"It is clear from the WBC, it's mandated that the winner of Cotto and Geale has to fight Golovkin next."

http://www.BS.com/team-ggg-no- ... eal--91150?

Like a Boss wrote:According to Boxing Scene :

"Golovkin is going to push to fight the winner of Geale vs Cotto next."

"It is clear from the WBC, it's mandated that the winner of Cotto and Geale has to fight Golovkin next."

http://www.BS.com/team-ggg-no- ... eal--91150?

If Cotto wins they will let him fight Canelo then try to make the winner of that fight GGG.

DA GOOSE wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:According to Boxing Scene :

"Golovkin is going to push to fight the winner of Geale vs Cotto next."

"It is clear from the WBC, it's mandated that the winner of Cotto and Geale has to fight Golovkin next."

http://www.BS.com/team-ggg-no- ... eal--91150?

If Cotto wins they will let him fight Canelo then try to make the winner of that fight GGG.

Sounds like it will involve step aside money in order for it to happen.

Like a Boss wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:According to Boxing Scene :

"Golovkin is going to push to fight the winner of Geale vs Cotto next."

"It is clear from the WBC, it's mandated that the winner of Cotto and Geale has to fight Golovkin next."

http://www.BS.com/team-ggg-no- ... eal--91150?

If Cotto wins they will let him fight Canelo then try to make the winner of that fight GGG.

Sounds like it will involve step aside money in order for it to happen.

Apparently Sulaiman will allow it if they sign a contract to agree to fight Golovkin according to some reports.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/wbc ... -golovkin/

Though I take that with grain of salt. IMO Cotto won't fight GGG if he beats Geale and Canelo and they are big cash cows(Alvarez and Cotto). They will probably vacate Oscar has already said Canelo won't fight him(GGG) for 2 years.

DA GOOSE wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote: If Cotto wins they will let him fight Canelo then try to make the winner of that fight GGG.

Sounds like it will involve step aside money in order for it to happen.

Apparently Sulaiman will allow it if they sign a contract to agree to fight Golovkin according to some reports.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/wbc ... -golovkin/

Though I take that with grain of salt. IMO Cotto won't fight GGG if he beats Geale and Canelo and they are big cash cows(Alvarez and Cotto). They will probably vacate Oscar has already said Canelo won't fight him(GGG) for 2 years.

Question is, can Daniel Geale be the fly in the ointment?

I hope so Like a boss but he will have to win clearly IMO.

Some more pre-fight thoughts from Daniel Geale :

"Cotto has trouble in stages against guys that move and use their reach,” Geale said.

“He knows that’s what I’m going to be doing and he’s going to be trying to counter that with aggression and coming forward. I’m going to use my abilities and not get caught up in his game plan.”

“The game plan is to go in and fight my fight. It’s not to get sucked in. It’s not to get caught up in what he [Cotto] is doing. It’s to do what I do best,” Geale said.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/gea ... ainst-him/?

I'd love to fight Golovkin again. I don't believe he is invincible, he definitely has weaknesses".

"I definitely felt on that night that I had a bad night and everything was against me but having said that, I'd love another chance. If I went over there again, I'll definitely make sure that things are much different."

http://www.BS.com/geale-id-lov ... ses--91379

One thing's for sure, if Golovkin has any weaknesses Daniel Geale
won't be the one to exploit them.

The Raw Prawn wrote:One thing's for sure, if Golovkin has any weaknesses Daniel Geale
won't be the one to exploit them.

I'm not sure anyone will exploit GGG's weaknesses. But Geale's continuing enthusiasm to have another crack at GGG is praiseworthy.

Like a Boss wrote:

The Raw Prawn wrote:One thing's for sure, if Golovkin has any weaknesses Daniel Geale
won't be the one to exploit them.

I'm not sure anyone will exploit GGG's weaknesses. But Geale's continuing enthusiasm to have another crack at GGG is praiseworthy.

The truth is we'v all seen Fighter's over the year's that seem to be invinsible then as soon as their beaten we call them limited
especially heavy handed fighter's that are on the slow side with their punche's and not so agile on their feet GGG lack of DEFENCE
will bite him on the ass BIG TIME sooner or later mark my word's............And that's a pity because he seems to be a champion person
but what it comes down to his a champion boxer will almost alway's beat a champion puncher that's my view
Hope he makes a squillion.......

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

The Raw Prawn wrote:One thing's for sure, if Golovkin has any weaknesses Daniel Geale
won't be the one to exploit them.

I'm not sure anyone will exploit GGG's weaknesses. But Geale's continuing enthusiasm to have another crack at GGG is praiseworthy.

The truth is we'v all seen Fighter's over the year's that seem to be invinsible then as soon as their beaten we call them limited
especially heavy handed fighter's that are on the slow side with their punche's and not so agile on their feet GGG lack of DEFENCE
will bite him on the ass BIG TIME sooner or later mark my word's............And that's a pity because he seems to be a champion person
but what it comes down to his a champion boxer will almost alway's beat a champion puncher that's my view
Hope he makes a squillion.......

Which champion boxer is out there at the moment at 160 pounds who will beat this champion puncher GGG??

I don't see one. Do you?

Over on the main board there is absolutely no love for Daniel Geale. Given that we support our man does anyone think that he has a chance?
What has to go right for him? I tend to think he has to roll the dice, can't see him winning on points as the longer it goes the more chance Cotto has of connecting with Daniel's chin. I think he has to trust his training, conditioning and experience and try to end it early.

Good luck Daniel

Grant wrote:Over on the main board there is absolutely no love for Daniel Geale. Given that we support our man does anyone think that he has a chance?
What has to go right for him? I tend to think he has to roll the dice, can't see him winning on points as the longer it goes the more chance Cotto has of connecting with Daniel's chin. I think he has to trust his training, conditioning and experience and try to end it early.

Good luck Daniel

There's a poll on another international forum where the Geale to beat Cotto option leads 35 votes to 31.

Grant wrote:Over on the main board there is absolutely no love for Daniel Geale. Given that we support our man does anyone think that he has a chance?
What has to go right for him? I tend to think he has to roll the dice, can't see him winning on points as the longer it goes the more chance Cotto has of connecting with Daniel's chin. I think he has to trust his training, conditioning and experience and try to end it early.

Good luck Daniel

I think he will win but Im a big fan and biased. But he has height,reach and even with the catchweight a size advantage on fight night. Cotto is probably the better boxer overall but few thought Trout would beat him. I think he can win but will be hard to get a points decision he needs a stoppage or to put on a clinic where the judges can't possibly have any reason to score it against him.

The bottom line is Cotto isn't a natural middleweight and he's been in too many wars.
Can Geale take advantage of this ?
Sportsbet doesn't think so.
Cotto 1.17 Geale 4.60

We'll all know a lot more after they've travelled two or three rounds on 7th June.

DA GOOSE wrote:

Grant wrote:Over on the main board there is absolutely no love for Daniel Geale. Given that we support our man does anyone think that he has a chance?
What has to go right for him? I tend to think he has to roll the dice, can't see him winning on points as the longer it goes the more chance Cotto has of connecting with Daniel's chin. I think he has to trust his training, conditioning and experience and try to end it early.

Good luck Daniel

I think he will win but Im a big fan and biased. But he has height,reach and even with the catchweight a size advantage on fight night. Cotto is probably the better boxer overall but few thought Trout would beat him. I think he can win but will be hard to get a points decision he needs a stoppage or to put on a clinic where the judges can't possibly have any reason to score it against him.

Geale has the obvious size advantage hence the catch weight demand from Cotto. Geale will likely need to win decisively to get the result.

The Raw Prawn wrote:The bottom line is Cotto isn't a natural middleweight and he's been in too many wars.
Can Geale take advantage of this ?
Sportsbet doesn't think so.
Cotto 1.17 Geale 4.60

We'll all know a lot more after they've travelled two or three rounds on 7th June.

Yes, there's nothing like the knowledge of a few transpired rounds.

The odds are more one sided than I expected. But it's felt Geale is unlikely to stop Cotto. So the bookies see the judges as the likely final arbitrators.

Graham Shaw has said they arrived in New York on May 10th and training is going perfectly with good sparring with Dennis Hogan and 2 world class American middleweights.

Shaw feels Geale’s height advantage of four inches will help him to keep Cotto at long range and outbox him similarly to how former WBA champion Austin Trout did. Shaw mentions Cotto does not have same power as GGG but has great boxing skills.

I hope Geale wins, but it's going to be tough. Cotto is a very big puncher. I think that's one thing Geale is under estimating. Danny needs to look out for the left hook and he needs to fight extra defensively to win. Everytime the fight is on the inside, Geale needs to move. Brutal body shots will be coming his way the whole night. It's a big ask. I hope Danny can win.

I read this online. Hoping it's true. But I still think Cotto's win over Martinez is big. http://boxing-kingdom.blogspot.com.au/2 ... d-why.html

Comments from Miguel Cotto a week out from the fight :

“I feel good and in the best shape possible. I just feel ready. I know Geale is a tough opponent and he is going to bring his best on June 6, but I trust in the work we have done here in Los Angeles and I’m going to bring my best too.”

“After 14 years in boxing, the best decision I could have made was to take the last year off. My mind was not in boxing, but since I got here with Freddie, everything is working perfectly again. Boxing is all I know. Boxing is my life. Through boxing, I raised my family and I work to provide the best future for them. They are the reason I love boxing.”

“Boxing at this point in my career is a battle with myself. Everyday I need to bring my best in the gym from morning to evening. Next week has to be better than last week. I need to ask myself to be better every day. I know that if I bring my best to the gym every day, I can bring my best the night of June 6 against Geale.”

“It will have been 364 days to the day on June 6 since I have been in the ring. It’s not difficult to get back in after this long stretch. I’ve been focused on my work. I have gained more knowledge during my time off in order to get myself ready to fight again.”


http://thelivingdaylights.co/2015/05/28 ... nd-quotes/?

Daniel Geale says Miguel Cotto is looking past him :

"I definitely think Miguel Cotto and his camp are looking past me. They have chosen me and bought me down a few pounds (160 to 157), and they think they're going to weaken me. So they're definitely looking past me, which is exciting for me."

Geale is obviously intimating Cotto's focus might already be on Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez or Gennady Golovkin. Though I personally doubt Cotto will go anywhere near Golovkin.

I have watched a good array of Cotto's fights throughout his career, and for years he was dazzling.The thorough warrior. But he began to slip and to lose some of that shine.. Age does that. With the speed the power also tempered. Being an Aussie I would like to see Daniel Geale get the nod, and if he harbours the ability, and displays it, then he has every chance of so doing. Upon saying that, I recall Terry Downes, after clearly outpointing Ray Robinson, when asked what it felt like to beat a legend? replying: "I didn't beat Sugar Ray, I beat his ghost." I trust that Geale might show a likewise respect if he overcomes Miguel Cotto.
Old Timer.

Old Timer wrote:I have watched a good array of Cotto's fights throughout his career, and for years he was dazzling.The thorough warrior. But he began to slip and to lose some of that shine.. Age does that. With the speed the power also tempered. Being an Aussie I would like to see Daniel Geale get the nod, and if he harbours the ability, and displays it, then he has every chance of so doing. Upon saying that, I recall Terry Downes, after clearly outpointing Ray Robinson, when asked what it felt like to beat a legend? replying: "I didn't beat Sugar Ray, I beat his ghost." I trust that Geale might show a likewise respect if he overcomes Miguel Cotto.
Old Timer.

Cotto is the current holder of the coveted WBC belt and is looking a very big money fight against 'Çanelo' Alvarez in the face should he beat Geale, and the bookies have him a raging favourite to do just that.

Then, if successful against Alvarez, the WBC are pushing for a Cotto vs Golovkin match-up for all the marbles.

Geale's task against Cotto will be all the move daunting because he will likely have to sway the judges in New York, and that doesn't promise to be an easy task. Additionally, though Cotto's team have hand picked Geale because they think Cotto can make short work of him, they are also forcing Geale down 3 pounds below the middleweight limit.

Geale is 34 years old. Same age as Cotto. Cotto may well be past prime, but there has been no evidence of his ghost thus far. Geale may well be past prime too?

Should Geale manage to beat Cotto at the Barclay Centre on June 6th it doesn't automatically mean Geale only beat Cotto's ghost.

Cotto can’t afford to look bad against Geale this Saturday


With a big money fight against Saul “Canelo” Alvarez slated for the fall, WBC middleweight belt holder Miguel Cotto (39-4, 32 KOs) absolutely has to look good this Saturday, June 6th, in his fight against #6 WBC Daniel Geale (31-3, 16 KOs) at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

While a loss for the 34-year-old Cotto won’t stop the Canelo fight from getting made, it will take away a lot of money that he and 24-year-old Canelo can scoop up from the U.S boxing public from HBO pay-per-view. Some fans will still gladly purchase the Cotto-Canelo fight even if Cotto loses or looks really bad against the 34-year-old Geale, but you have to believe the PPV numbers will be far fewer than they would if Cotto destroys Geale on Saturday night.

Geale has obviously been picked out as an opponent that will potentially make Cotto look good. If Cotto was serious about wanting to prove something to fans, he would have taken on a dangerous opponent like Gennady Golovkin or Tureano Johnson. But in selecting the light-hitting Geale, who was knocked out in just three rounds a year ago against Golovkin, he’s betting that he can get him out of there in an impressive fashion to wow the casual boxing fans, many of which would have no clue that Geale has lost 2 out of his last 4 fights, and isn’t in the same league as guys like Golovkin. The casual fans will assume that Cotto has really accomplished something in beating Geale rather than them knowing that he chose Geale to fight rather than Golovkin.

“There’s no fight in boxing that’s as big as this,” Roc Nation Sports chief operating officer David Itskowitch said via the nydailynews.com in referring to the Cotto vs. Canelo fight. “There’s no fight in boxing that’s as big as this.”

The Cotto-Canelo fight is a big match-up, to be sure. But I’m not sure that it’s the best fight that can be made. With Cotto seen as just a paper champion in the minds of many knowledgeable fans, and the middleweight-sized Canelo, who insists on fighting at 155 each time out against junior middleweights, we’re not seeing the actual best fighters in this bout going at it. We’re seeing good fighters, but clearly not the best. It’s just a good fight but knowing that they’re not the best in their respective divisions takes away a lot of the interest in the fight.

You can’t call Canelo a junior middleweight anymore because he’s fought three consecutive fights at middleweight, and his fight against Cotto will be yet another fight at middleweight. That’s four straight fights at middleweight. The last time that Canelo fought in the junior middleweight division was in 2013. It’s unknown if Canelo will ever fight at 154 again. Unless he can get a welterweight to move up to junior middleweight to fight him, I can see Canelo continuing to fight at middleweight against junior middleweights, and possibly even welterweights.

Cotto has to do his job this Saturday by going out and looking good against Geale if he wants to maximize profits for the Canelo fight. The Cotto-Geale fight will take place at a catch-weight of 157 pounds rather than the full weight for the middleweight division. Cotto wanted a catch-weight for the fight because he’s small for the middleweight division. However, Geale will still likely rehydrate to the 170s, possibly 175. He’ll have a significant size advantage in this fight, and Cotto is going to have to somehow try and negate it by cutting off the ring and looking to hurt Geale with shots. Geale moves well, and he could very well clown Cotto in the same way that Austin Trout did. But I think it’s going to be very difficult for Geale to get a decision win over Cotto, even if he out-boxes him over 12 rounds.

There’s too much money in the Cotto-Canelo fight, and I can’t see the judges giving the win to Geale no matter how good he looks.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/cot ... -saturday/