Carl Froch Vs Gennady Golovkin In Talks For September

[ikorolev]

So, if Ward said something, it must be true. Show me an example where team GGG would say that he was running scared or anything like that. What they were saying was that he should stop calling out GGG, because Ward couldn't fight him for various reasons.

F4cking hypocrite

[Pureist]

GGG Team saying that they want that fight and Froch with Hearn hiding?

One side avoids negotiations. What is unclear here ?

Why do you make stuff up?

Two days ago, Eddie Hearn provided the following update on the Froch-Golovkin situation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql3Hn6KwWPw

"I saw Tom Loeffler's stuff about 'They've gone quiet on me', but I only haven't replied to one email. We know the deal with Golovkin, so there's nothing to talk about.

If Carl Froch fights again, I am 99.9% sure, it'll be against Gennady Golovkin, but I don't think he'll fight again"

Tom Loeffler does make things up and he's been attacked multiple times by people like Hearn & Ward, because of his tendency to occasionally lie or embellish situations to unreasonable proportions.

I know you’re a Golovkin fan, but does that mean that you're automatically compelled to support devious characters like Loeffler & Sanchez, whilst blatantly ignoring the "other side" of the proverbial fence? If so, then you're a füçkïng moron!

You believe everything from floyds camp and yes that does make YOU a FN moron

[NateJR]

Look how mad they get.. lmao.

[Pureist]

If Floyd said he sh1t gold you would be right there with your mouth under his arse waiting like the good little girl you are, I really don't need to offer up posts as everyone here already knows how narrow minded you are and how you try and twist information to suit your agenda, it's very obvious

[Bard of Boxrec]

If Floyd said he sh1t gold you would be right there with your mouth under his arse waiting like the good little girl you are, I really don't need to offer up posts as everyone here already knows how narrow minded you are and how you try and twist information to suit your agenda, it's very obvious

BUT....BUT.....That's not what he SAID! Please go through the entire post again and provide examples of him trying to suit his agenda! Everything Fergus has said is based on factual evidence and carefully analysed data!

[Pureist]

yeah I know, the data probably gets printed out of his arse. he also loves playing with colors. and he is very annoying

[Ricky_]

Look how mad they get.. lmao.

Brut

[Bard of Boxrec]

Does anyone want to set an over/under on how many people in one thread need to take exception to Fergus before he actually realises it might be him who is wrong?

I'm going to say, 9.

[Ricky_]

Does anyone want to set an over/under on how many people in one thread need to take exception to Fergus before he actually realises it might be him who is wrong?

I'm going to say, 9.

Add Boregus as a foe. It blocks his posts and preserves your own sanity.

[Bard of Boxrec]

You guys are delusional baffoons!

I have found that those who resort to childish insults only serve to strengthen my position and make me even more sure that I have won the argument!

[Counter-puncher]

You guys are delusional baffoons!

I have found that those who resort to childish insults only serve to strengthen my position and make me even more sure that I have won the argument!

[Pureist]

If Floyd said he sh1t gold you would be right there with your mouth under his arse waiting like the good little girl you are, I really don't need to offer up posts as everyone here already knows how narrow minded you are and how you try and twist information to suit your agenda, it's very obvious

So in simple terms, you accuse me of doing something that I blatantly don’t do, but when I ask you to prove it, you resort to insults, because you know that you’re talking nonsense?

I post transcripts or videos of the interviews from the people whose words I quote and even provide links to the source material so that you can judge things for yourself, but you continue to maintain that I twist information to suit my own agenda? That’s laughable!

I really do think that you need to undergo some sort of psychological evaluation to assess whether you present a real dander to innocent unsuspecting members of society, because you’re clearly not all there!

In fact, I am slightly shocked that you possess enough mental capacity to use an electronic device that allows you to submit posts on this forum!

You need to find better authenticated videos and articles, I don't find them believable

[ikorolev]

If Floyd said he sh1t gold you would be right there with your mouth under his arse waiting like the good little girl you are, I really don't need to offer up posts as everyone here already knows how narrow minded you are and how you try and twist information to suit your agenda, it's very obvious

BUT....BUT.....That's not what he SAID! Please go through the entire post again and provide examples of him trying to suit his agenda! Everything Fergus has said is based on factual evidence and carefully analysed data!

[ikorolev]

So, if Ward said something, it must be true. Show me an example where team GGG would say that he was running scared or anything like that. What they were saying was that he should stop calling out GGG, because Ward couldn't fight him for various reasons.

F4cking hypocrite

There are videos of Abel Sanchez making those claims on YouTube. It won’t take you a second to find one of them to realise that members of Team Golovkin actually did call out Andre Ward.

Speaking of which, let me undermine something else you previously stated about Loeffler, which helps me to illustrate his flip-flopping stance... and seems to be triggered by Ward’s verbal assault on him at the Mayweather-Pacquiao event:

Here's a good example – case in point, Andre Ward:

“GGG Gennady Golovkin Promoter GGG WILLING TO FIGHT ANDRE WARD AT CATCHWEIGHT!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXZlSTDHcXA

“Well, the excuse used to be that Gennady doesn’t bring any money to the table and that’s pretty much out the window right now. People can’t use that excuse anymore… and HBO has made a significant investment in Gennady’s career. So with his ticket sales, the support of the television networks, he’s one of the most marketable fighters around. Trust me, it’s not the financial part of it, it’s the people, they just don’t want to fight him, regardless of what the offer is and that’s the problem we’re running into…”

"[HBO] won't be the hurdle, the hurdle will be if a fighter actually really wants to fight Gennady or if they're going to want to hide behind some other excuse as to why they ain't going to fight Gennady... Andre's on the table... now that he's with Roc Nation... There really isn't an obstacle making fights for Gennady. The biggest obstacle is if someone actually wants to agree..." stated Loeffler in March, whilst promoting the Willie Monroe Jr. fight

In mid-May (a couple of weeks after being publicly chastised by Andre Ward at the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, due to Team GGG putting "stories out saying that Ward is running and Ward is ducking"):

“Tom Loeffler and Abel Sanchez Clear Rumors Of Andre Ward Golovkin Fight”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naap36F_2gM

"Andre specifically asked me not to talk about a fight with him unless a fight actually happens, at the Floyd-Pacquiao fight. So it doesn't make sense to comment on that...It doesn’t make sense to comment on it since the fight is unrealistic right now…" responded Loeffler.

"Gennady completely sold-out the Stub Hub Centre when he fought against Rubio, he put in over twelve thousand people at the Forum, when Andre fought Abraham it was like half of that, 4,500 people at the Stub Hub Centre…"

The interviewer even remarked “I’m hearing too much risk, not enough reward!”

“When people bring up that fight, how are the economics going to work. The economics wouldn’t work for that fight… You can’t force a fight if the economics isn’t there…” clarified Loeffler.

So, you accept that Ward is a liar ? I asked you to show me an example where team GGG would say that Ward was running scared or anything like that, and you failed to do so.

[ikorolev]

You quoted Ward in order to prove that Loefler is dishonest:

"I just saw Tom Loeffler...I told him...stop being dishonest with the fans...don't put these stories out saying that Ward is running and Ward is ducking when that's not the case, and he agreed," stated super middleweight king Andre Ward, who revealed that he confronted the promoter of middleweight champin Gennady Golovkin regarding inaccurate stories being floated to the media.

and when I asked you to produce an evidence of GGG saying something like that, you failed to do so. That makes Ward a liar, and it makes you who used Ward's words to prove Loefler's dishonesty a liar too.

You quoted me saying

However, Carl's actions support at least his total lack of desire to fight GGG...

and then called me dishonest based on that ??? That statement is completely true, and I can repeat it: Froch doesn't want to fight Gennady.

Just f4cking stop being a hypocrite and calling yourself Golovkin's fan. You are clearly one of his haters.

[Aaronide_ger]

Congrats Ferg. U just destroyed another topic.. Please stop posting here.

[ikorolev]

Congrats Ferg. U just destroyed another topic.. Please stop posting here.

I provided proof that Tom Loeffler was embellishing things when he claimed that Eddie Hearn had gone quite on the GGG-Froch fight, when the Matchroom boss said he’d only not responded to one email.

When GGG’s fans claimed that Loeffler couldn’t be lying and Hearn was being dishonest, I provided proof that the K2 boss had a track record of misguiding the media away from the actual situation, even leading to embarrassing confrontations between himself and some of the guys his team were making false accusations (or simply insulting).

You have done none of the above, you f4cking liar. You're just throwing volumes of sh!t on us hoping that we drown in it. Stop posting your garbage !

[Ricky_]

Congrats Ferg. U just destroyed another topic.. Please stop posting here.

I provided proof that Tom Loeffler was embellishing things when he claimed that Eddie Hearn had gone quite on the GGG-Froch fight, when the Matchroom boss said he’d only not responded to one email.

When GGG’s fans claimed that Loeffler couldn’t be lying and Hearn was being dishonest, I provided proof that the K2 boss had a track record of misguiding the media away from the actual situation, even leading to embarrassing confrontations between himself and some of the guys his team were making false accusations (or simply insulting).

You have done none of the above, you f4cking liar. You're just throwing volumes of sh!t on us hoping that we drown in it. Stop posting your garbage !

Can you address Boregus without quoting? It overrides the block feature and exposes me to his spam, thanks.

[ikorolev]

OK, I've had enough of fergusshit. Joining the majority and putting him on ignore.

[crusader]

Speaking of fergus, I noticed that his account has been deleted.I wonder if the mods finally had enough of his ultra-annoying blathering, he was confirmed as a troll with other accounts, or he was so ashamed with the dross he posted here that he didn't want his account and all his posts intact for others to see.

Regardless of the explanation for his departure, I hope he doesn't come back

[ikorolev]

I hope my poll about him helped. He started deliberately provoking people and killing threads.

[crusader]

A quick search shows that there was a fergusg posting at another boxing-related forum a few years ago who got busted for having several alts and then ran off when he was found out, and I'm fairly sure it was the BoxRec fergusg, as the posting styles are very similar (long-winded, lots of talk about 'facts', frequent use of emojis).

I wonder if that loser had other accounts here.....

[Bard of Boxrec]

He was probably the most successful type of troll possible. Inserts just enough boxing knowledge to reel people in, then opens the floodgates of retardation when you're already invested in the debate. Then he turns mentally insane those who choose to stick with him. Glad to see you escaped that fate Crusader :) Merciful, as you did spend a dangerous amount of time arguing with him.

[Bobbyptsd]

Speaking of fergus, I noticed that his account has been deleted.I wonder if the mods finally had enough of his ultra-annoying blathering, he was confirmed as a troll with other accounts, or he was so ashamed with the dross he posted here that he didn't want his account and all his posts intact for others to see.

Regardless of the explanation for his departure, I hope he doesn't come back

I just noticed I wasn't seeing his posts anymore. He was kind of like Rover, and that didn't go over too well ultimately.

[ikorolev]

Froch resurfaced, but I don't think he is considering Golovkin anymore (if he ever did):

http://www.BS.com/froch-says-d ... der--93034?

Also, Loefler confirmed that they were never talking about a catch weight, so Carl doesn't have that excuse.

Tom Loeffler ‏@TomLoeffler1 1h1 hour ago
Out of respect to Froch and his marketability in UK we never asked for a catchweight, always clear at 168 with Eddie