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Lackeos wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Congrats to Fury. Wlad maybe won 2 rounds, 3 if you are generous. Fury will keep his titles until he fights Wilder or Joshua.

Or you're wrong.

Uh oh, here comes wlad lover number one. Sorry for your loss man.

Don't sing don't sing don't sing.. ahhh.. noo.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Lackeos wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Congrats to Fury. Wlad maybe won 2 rounds, 3 if you are generous. Fury will keep his titles until he fights Wilder or Joshua.

Or you're wrong.

Uh oh, here comes wlad lover number one. Sorry for your loss man.

That's fine. Muhammad Ali never won 19 consecutive title fights, and he was losing to fighters like Leon Spinks shortly after he turned 36. By Wlad's age, Muhammad Ali was losing to Trevor Berbick. In fact, none of your favorite heavyweights have made as many title defenses as Wlad.

cultus wrote:Don't sing don't sing don't sing.. ahhh.. noo.

He just sung to millions and nobody complained. Like comedy it is all about the timing.

Trevor Berbick was a better boxer than almost anyone Wlad has ever faced.

Lackeos wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Lackeos wrote:That's fine. Muhammad Ali never won 19 consecutive title fights, and he was losing to fighters like Leon Spinks shortly after he turned 36. By Wlad's age, Muhammad Ali was losing to Trevor Berbick. In fact, none of your favorite heavyweights have made as many title defenses as Wlad.

Who cares. Wlads opposition stinks. History has shown that as soon as someone with a pulse and some heart and work rate throws punches at wlad, the big stiff robot can't deal. Two punch arsenal. Just lost to Tyson friggin fury. Some all time great.

Or you're wrong.[/quote]
Uh oh, here comes wlad lover number one. Sorry for your loss man.[/quote]
That's fine. Muhammad Ali never won 19 consecutive title fights, and he was losing to fighters like Leon Spinks shortly after he turned 36. By Wlad's age, Muhammad Ali was losing to Trevor Berbick. In fact, none of your favorite heavyweights have made as many title defenses as Wlad.[/quote]

Honestly you are comparing Ali to Wlad? Consider the competition they had, and Ali being shot his last few years. Many thought Wlad was still prime. He just got his ass handed to him by possibly the sloppiest, most unorthodox heavy I have ever seen. Props to Fury though, he did what he had to, which wasn't a whole lot. Lmao, what a fight. Pleazzzze, no rematch.

Lackeos wrote:That's fine. Muhammad Ali never won 19 consecutive title fights, and he was losing to fighters like Leon Spinks shortly after he turned 36. By Wlad's age, Muhammad Ali was losing to Trevor Berbick. In fact, none of your favorite heavyweights have made as many title defenses as Wlad.

ibf and wbo didn't exist when ali was fighting, and wba was clearly an alternative title.
ali also had is license taken away in his prime, so impossible to know how many consecutive
and yada yada whatever he could have won. spinks was also an olympic gold medalist
who wasn't a total cokehead yet so it's not like losing to him was that embarrassing,
especially since you can see from his speech and movement he had early onset parkinsons.

Freedom2013 wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:Boxing needs the Fury upset.

Boxing needs Klitschko to KO this loud-mouthed fool.

Badhusker wrote:Honestly you are comparing Ali to Wlad? Consider the competition they had, and Ali being shot his last few years. Many thought Wlad was still prime. He just got his ass handed to him by possibly the sloppiest, most unorthodox heavy I have ever seen. Props to Fury though, he did what he had to, which wasn't a whole lot. Lmao, what a fight. Pleazzzze, no rematch.

Unfavorably comparing Ali to Wlad. Ali comes up the poorer in the comparison.

Wlad's straight right has faded badly at near forty years of age. He has difficulty in "pulling the trigger".

Same thing happened to Holmes and Louis at the end.

Freedom2013 wrote:Wlad's straight right has faded badly at near forty years of age. He has difficulty in "pulling the trigger".

Same thing happened to Holmes and Louis at the end.

wlad is just an awful boxer and was lucky to be in a division where almost all his opponents were smaller and weaker than him.

like ggg winning against super lightweights, big deal.

Chepppaaa wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Wlad's straight right has faded badly at near forty years of age. He has difficulty in "pulling the trigger".

Same thing happened to Holmes and Louis at the end.

wlad is just an awful boxer and was lucky to be in a division where almost all his opponents were smaller and weaker than him.

like ggg winning against super lightweights, big deal.

Wlad is fighting in the biggest division in the history of boxing. That's not luck. If he was fighting in the 1950's heavyweight division, all of his opponents would be 5' 11", 190 pounds. I guess he would have been preposterously lucky if he fought in any heavyweight division other than the present one.

JCS wrote:Well, at least Wlad won the last round.

Time to hop on the Wilder train. He's the only undefeated HW with a win over Zelenoff.

Wasn't it a draw ?

Wlad can't adjust. He was losing round after round and when nothing but KO win could save him, he was still initiating clinches again and again.

Man after the lackluster performance against Jennings I did say that Wladimir is on the way out, but a shitfest like this, I did not see that coming. He looked so good against Pulev last year, I couldn't believe the Jennings fight after this, was just as if he got old between fights. Or to be more accurate, he boxed even more cautious as if he had too much to lose, after all, he is a father now, maybe that's what made the difference.
It's a shame that Emanuel Steward didn't live to see today, I wonder if he had come up with a plan B. Good for Fury, even if it was a fight as bad as it gets. I really hope that Wladimir doesn't go the way of Holyfield, Holmes and other champs that just didn't know when to quit even though it was obvious that it was over.
He wouldn't get another fight together until he's 40, he had an impressive run and must have raked in obscene amounts of money.
As someone who watched every single of his early fights when he started as a pro in Germany and a fan of him of almost 20 years - yes I know he was boring but in his early fights against the tomato cans and faded fighters he looked like the Terminator to me - I hope he calls he calls it quits.

To be honest, as a long time fan I have always dreaded the day he will lose his titles, but then again, he stopped being pleasant to watch a long time ago and the hopes for a good fight or a proper knockouts were disappointed more often than not.
We will see where Fury will go from here, he is just 27, Wladimir had just come off his knockout loss to Corrie Sanders at that age an headed towards his next loss against Brewster, his long reign didn't start until he was 30. Fury will have many years and many chances to prove that he is the real deal, chances are he will be similar to Klitschko using his size advantage. We will see how that will work out.

Nightgaunt wrote:Man after the lackluster performance against Jennings I did say that Wladimir is on the way out, but a shitfest like this, I did not see that coming. He looked so good against Pulev last year, I couldn't believe the Jennings fight after this, was just as if he got old between fights. Or to be more accurate, he boxed even more cautious as if he had too much to lose, after all, he is a father now, maybe that's what made the difference.
It's a shame that Emanuel Steward didn't live to see today, I wonder if he had come up with a plan B. Good for Fury, even if it was a fight as bad as it gets. I really hope that Wladimir doesn't go the way of Holyfield, Holmes and other champs that just didn't know when to quit even though it was obvious that it was over.
He wouldn't get another fight together until he's 40, he had an impressive run and must have raked in obscene amounts of money.
As someone who watched every single of his early fights when he started as a pro in Germany and a fan of him of almost 20 years - yes I know he was boring but in his early fights against the tomato cans and faded fighters he looked like the Terminator to me - I hope he calls he calls it quits.

To be honest, as a long time fan I have always dreaded the day he will lose his titles, but then again, he stopped being pleasant to watch a long time ago and the hopes for a good fight or a proper knockouts were disappointed more often than not.
We will see where Fury will go from here, he is just 27, Wladimir had just come off his knockout loss to Corrie Sanders at that age an headed towards his next loss against Brewster, his long reign didn't start until he was 30. Fury will have many years and many chances to prove that he is the real deal, chances are he will be similar to Klitschko using his size advantage. We will see how that will work out.

wlad never looked good

You know I got laughed out of the building when I suggested a prime David Tua would have beaten the brakes off wlad. People just love that long line of stiffs he has looked so terrible beating over the years. Each to their own.

Riddick Blowe wrote:You know I got laughed out of the building when I suggested a prime David Tua would have beaten the brakes off wlad. People just love that long line of stiffs he has looked so terrible beating over the years. Each to their own.

Wlad loses to a 6' 8" guy with an 85" wingspan and you conclude that he would certainly lose to a 5' 10" guy with a 70" wingspan. The fact that you think this fight confirms your beliefs suggests that you don't seem to understand boxing on even a basic level. You might as well claim that Mike Tyson's loss to Buster Douglass proves that he would lose to Malik Scott as well. Like, do you not understand styles at all?

Lackeos wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:You know I got laughed out of the building when I suggested a prime David Tua would have beaten the brakes off wlad. People just love that long line of stiffs he has looked so terrible beating over the years. Each to their own.

Wlad loses to a 6' 8" guy with an 85" wingspan and you conclude that he would certainly lose to a 5' 10" guy with a 70" wingspan. The fact that you think this fight confirms your beliefs suggests that you don't seem to understand boxing on even a basic level. You might as well claim that Mike Tyson's loss to Buster Douglass proves that he would lose to Malik Scott as well. Like, do you not understand styles at all?

No sir, you are the one who doesn't understand boxing. This is about pressure. Not size. The sort of pressure and power Tua brought would have made wlad shit bricks. You probably think wlad would have beaten mike Tyson by this analysis. Samuel Peter almost beat wlad, but you don't seem to care about that. I can't help you. Go home. It's over.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

Lackeos wrote:Wlad loses to a 6' 8" guy with an 85" wingspan and you conclude that he would certainly lose to a 5' 10" guy with a 70" wingspan. The fact that you think this fight confirms your beliefs suggests that you don't seem to understand boxing on even a basic level. You might as well claim that Mike Tyson's loss to Buster Douglass proves that he would lose to Malik Scott as well. Like, do you not understand styles at all?

No sir, you are the one who doesn't understand boxing. This is about pressure. Not size. The sort of pressure and power Tua brought would have made wlad poo bricks. You probably think wlad would have beaten mike Tyson by this analysis. Samuel Peter almost beat wlad, but you don't seem to care about that. I can't help you. Go home. It's over.

Tua got schooled by Lennox. Tua would have gotten schooled by Vitali, Wlad, Fury, Wilder, Holmes, or Bowe as well.

Nightgaunt wrote:Man after the lackluster performance against Jennings I did say that Wladimir is on the way out, but a shitfest like this, I did not see that coming. He looked so good against Pulev last year, I couldn't believe the Jennings fight after this, was just as if he got old between fights. Or to be more accurate, he boxed even more cautious as if he had too much to lose, after all, he is a father now, maybe that's what made the difference.
It's a shame that Emanuel Steward didn't live to see today, I wonder if he had come up with a plan B. Good for Fury, even if it was a fight as bad as it gets. I really hope that Wladimir doesn't go the way of Holyfield, Holmes and other champs that just didn't know when to quit even though it was obvious that it was over.
He wouldn't get another fight together until he's 40, he had an impressive run and must have raked in obscene amounts of money.
As someone who watched every single of his early fights when he started as a pro in Germany and a fan of him of almost 20 years - yes I know he was boring but in his early fights against the tomato cans and faded fighters he looked like the Terminator to me - I hope he calls he calls it quits.

To be honest, as a long time fan I have always dreaded the day he will lose his titles, but then again, he stopped being pleasant to watch a long time ago and the hopes for a good fight or a proper knockouts were disappointed more often than not.
We will see where Fury will go from here, he is just 27, Wladimir had just come off his knockout loss to Corrie Sanders at that age an headed towards his next loss against Brewster, his long reign didn't start until he was 30. Fury will have many years and many chances to prove that he is the real deal, chances are he will be similar to Klitschko using his size advantage. We will see how that will work out.

I was wondering what Emmanuel Steward would have done in the corner too. From what I could hear, Wladimir wasn't listening at all to Banks (no right hands to the body).

Congrats to Fury, but I don't predict a long title reign for him.

Wlad just never figured out that he needed to man up, get inside and go to war.

There was nothing wrong with his feet and watching him throw in the last rounds lets me
know there was nothing wrong with his arms either.

It wasn't that he couldn't pull the trigger...he was just his being his usual cautious self.

And when he got inside he held instead of working like he needed to.

Fury and his folks scouted Wlad very, very well.

Played him like a violin.

geronimo wrote:The upset is coming...

punchoutsb wrote:Anyone writing Fury off is in for a BIG surprise!

Vlad just got outclassed by Tyson Fury. Now I'm sure it stings, but it's a night that will be referred to forever.