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Deno1986 wrote:

handsofstone wrote:BS stoppage, still hard to tell where the punches landed but they looked OK to me but even if they were legal, the ref should've gave a count, he fvcked up big style IMO, no doubt Kovalev was feeling the body shots on the beltline and Ward did wobble him with the right hand just before the end but the ref was too quick to jump in, I had it even at the end, have HBO got a massive hard on for Kovalev?, it was a another close affair but Lederman had Kovalev about 13 rounds up, maybe they just hate Ward

How could he have given him a count? There was no standing 8 count option. Kovalev stopped fighting, didn't hit the canvas or take a knee. What exactly was the ref supposed to do? I thought the punches at the end were borderline but legal.

Covfefe wrote:What was with Ward's jumping position shift he did twice?

Never seen that before.

TheLeprechaun wrote:

Covfefe wrote:What was with Ward's jumping position shift he did twice?

Never seen that before.

Hes done some moves like that in previous fights. Usually to get inside and start working the body. It's not something I've seen either. It's like he switches southpaw then back to orthodox really fast

mickey1975 wrote:Poor Riddick is getting worse!

Stuarty30 wrote:Both Kov and Ward have a genuine right to feel aggrieved here. Kov more than Ward because Ward got the win. Ward was humped out the chance to genuinely stop Kovalev and do what nobody thought he could. Kovalev was robbed the chance to recovery and fight on in a close fight! It's a decision by Weeks that has fukked everyone out of a conclusion to a good fight.

Everyone makes mistakes and he was the closest to any of em in there but he let a few bad ones go beforehand and should've been more vigilant considering he's a top ref.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:Poor Riddick is getting worse!

What's your problem now chief?

Tuan_Jim wrote:At least the controversy has given Krusher a handy out. I doubt he fancies a third fight with Ward. Where on earth does he go from here? Pursue Stevenson with a diminished aura and standing? Or go cruiser where they are bigger and will be less susceptible to his power.

Kovalev might have reached the end of the road.

Covfefe wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:At least the controversy has given Krusher a handy out. I doubt he fancies a third fight with Ward. Where on earth does he go from here? Pursue Stevenson with a diminished aura and standing? Or go cruiser where they are bigger and will be less susceptible to his power.

Kovalev might have reached the end of the road.

Why would he fancy a third?

He was being broken down by a better fighter.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:At least the controversy has given Krusher a handy out. I doubt he fancies a third fight with Ward. Where on earth does he go from here? Pursue Stevenson with a diminished aura and standing? Or go cruiser where they are bigger and will be less susceptible to his power.

Kovalev might have reached the end of the road.

Why would he fancy a third?

He was being broken down by a better fighter.

I said I DOUBT he fancies a 3rd. He was indeed on his way out.

Tuan_Jim wrote:At least the controversy has given Krusher a handy out. I doubt he fancies a third fight with Ward. Where on earth does he go from here? Pursue Stevenson with a diminished aura and standing? Or go cruiser where they are bigger and will be less susceptible to his power.

Kovalev might have reached the end of the road.

Ricky_ wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:At least the controversy has given Krusher a handy out. I doubt he fancies a third fight with Ward. Where on earth does he go from here? Pursue Stevenson with a diminished aura and standing? Or go cruiser where they are bigger and will be less susceptible to his power.

Kovalev might have reached the end of the road.

Kovalev proved to be a better fighter than Ward in the first fight. He's worthy of a top 5 p4p ranking (if you're into rating boxers in such a way). He'd be a big favourite if the Stevenson fight get's made, and would be 50/50 if he ends up going for the Ward trilogy.

I'm not so sure Ward would fair any better against top ranked Cruisers like Usyk than Kovalev would, he would have a massive size and weight advantage over both.

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:At least the controversy has given Krusher a handy out. I doubt he fancies a third fight with Ward. Where on earth does he go from here? Pursue Stevenson with a diminished aura and standing? Or go cruiser where they are bigger and will be less susceptible to his power.

Kovalev might have reached the end of the road.

Kovalev proved to be a better fighter than Ward in the first fight. He's worthy of a top 5 p4p ranking (if you're into rating boxers in such a way). He'd be a big favourite if the Stevenson fight get's made, and would be 50/50 if he ends up going for the Ward trilogy.

I'm not so sure Ward would fair any better against top ranked Cruisers like Usyk than Kovalev would, he would have a massive size and weight advantage over both.

How did he prove he was better in the first fight? Even if you scored it for Kovalev it was razor thin. No one proved anything that night, the same can't be said for last night. Ward showed he's much the better fighter.

Ricky_ wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:At least the controversy has given Krusher a handy out. I doubt he fancies a third fight with Ward. Where on earth does he go from here? Pursue Stevenson with a diminished aura and standing? Or go cruiser where they are bigger and will be less susceptible to his power.

Kovalev might have reached the end of the road.

Kovalev proved to be a better fighter than Ward in the first fight. He's worthy of a top 5 p4p ranking (if you're into rating boxers in such a way). He'd be a big favourite if the Stevenson fight get's made, and would be 50/50 if he ends up going for the Ward trilogy.

I'm not so sure Ward would fair any better against top ranked Cruisers like Usyk than Kovalev would, he would have a massive size and weight advantage over both.

Covfefe wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:At least the controversy has given Krusher a handy out. I doubt he fancies a third fight with Ward. Where on earth does he go from here? Pursue Stevenson with a diminished aura and standing? Or go cruiser where they are bigger and will be less susceptible to his power.

Kovalev might have reached the end of the road.

Kovalev proved to be a better fighter than Ward in the first fight. He's worthy of a top 5 p4p ranking (if you're into rating boxers in such a way). He'd be a big favourite if the Stevenson fight get's made, and would be 50/50 if he ends up going for the Ward trilogy.

I'm not so sure Ward would fair any better against top ranked Cruisers like Usyk than Kovalev would, he would have a massive size and weight advantage over both.

How did he prove he was better in the first fight? Even if you scored it for Kovalev it was razor thin. No one proved anything that night, the same can't be said for last night. Ward showed he's much the better fighter.

Covfefe wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:Both Kov and Ward have a genuine right to feel aggrieved here. Kov more than Ward because Ward got the win. Ward was humped out the chance to genuinely stop Kovalev and do what nobody thought he could. Kovalev was robbed the chance to recovery and fight on in a close fight! It's a decision by Weeks that has fukked everyone out of a conclusion to a good fight.

Everyone makes mistakes and he was the closest to any of em in there but he let a few bad ones go beforehand and should've been more vigilant considering he's a top ref.

Kovalev shouldn't have given him the chance to call the fight. You can't just stop throwing punches and bend over doing nothing at the ropes.

Tuan_Jim wrote:Kovalev had everything his own way his whole career and thus cannot cope with the resistance he meets when he fights Ward. The body language last night, Ward will have no doubt noticed, was all negative, a man thrashed mentally and physically. We see it again and again. GGG suddenly had his hands full when Daniel Jacobs introduced him to a proper boxing contest, and I think the Kazakh will have an even worse night against Canelo. Someone will capitalise on Joshua's appalling stamina soon, covering up under the attack then taking him out with some well-placed shots when he's gassed. We need to stop being so surprised when these punchers come unstuck.

God only knows how Kovalev would have coped with Michael Spinks. A physically bigger man than Ward, and Kov for that matter, every bit as awkward, but with humongous power in either hand and frightening accuracy.

tobyh5 wrote:He also refused face offs in the build up to the fight and acted in a way that suggested he was either seething with anger which was hard to control or he was hugely rattled and slightly mentally beaten by Ward. With how the fight ended up with (controversial low blows or not) him being broken down and fading, it appears that his heart was already taken before the first bell

ScottDetonator wrote:Another black eye for boxing.

HBO should refund the PPV sales.

I was disgusted with Tony Weeks last night. Beyond a joke.

I won't watch another Ward fight.

To add - Adam Smith is the worst boxing commentator I have ever heard in my life as well. Shut up screaming dribble!

Boxerbeetle wrote:

ScottDetonator wrote:Another black eye for boxing.

HBO should refund the PPV sales.

I was disgusted with Tony Weeks last night. Beyond a joke.

I won't watch another Ward fight.

To add - Adam Smith is the worst boxing commentator I have ever heard in my life as well. Shut up screaming dribble!

Finally something in this thread we can all agree on