mickey1975 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 10:18
It’s sold 13,000. Same as Crolla-Burns, a lot of Hatton contests. It’s about expected.
This is the undefeated heavyweight champion of the world who you've spent years saying is more popular than ever in his hometown fighting in front of the same number of people as Ricky Burns?
Even if you're right and this isn't some 'everyone walked out to the bar when AJ came out' that's pretty dismal. Haye filled the O2 and his support act was a DJ.
Nobody said that. Nobody left the bar when AJ was on. Maybe 6,000 there in total. Was there.... was there when Haye fought in front of 200. Fury turned pro in front of a sell out crowd... spin it how you like, it’s a crap fight doing good numbers
Ps Crolla was the attraction that night, mate. Burns is Scottish.....
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi - 9 June 2018
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 13:33
by Counter-puncher
A crowd sold out for Froch, though. Furys debut, that is.
tony1234 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 10:04
Sefer 4st 8lbs lighter
4 stone 10lbs lighter he weighed in at 15 stones 2oz’s Fury was 19 stone 10 lbs and 2 oz’s... That’s a weight difference on my 11 year old daughter proper mismatch here..
Remember though...
Tony Bellew is far too small to be calling him out The Fury’s don’t really do risks so his comeback was always going to be a laughable opponent.
Just pleased he’s back
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi - 9 June 2018
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 13:52
by samwbr
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 13:33
A crowd sold out for Froch, though. Furys debut, that is.
tony1234 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 10:04
Sefer 4st 8lbs lighter
4 stone 10lbs lighter he weighed in at 15 stones 2oz’s Fury was 19 stone 10 lbs and 2 oz’s... That’s a weight difference on my 11 year old daughter proper mismatch here..
Remember though...
Tony Bellew is far too small to be calling him out The Fury’s don’t really do risks so his comeback was always going to be a laughable opponent.
Just pleased he’s back
Yes, Haye in 2013 was a walkover, undefeated Chisora, Wlad when he was good in his own adopted country. No risks at all.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi - 9 June 2018
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 14:00
by chinarich
rd350lc wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 12:55
I thought Fury had whipped himself into some sort of shape ?
God , he's still mahoosive .
I like the attitude he has come back with and even though this is an embarrassment of a match up , I hope he enjoys himself .
Cos when he fights someone that will hit him back properly he will need to take things a tad more seriously .
He has lost eight stone in a matter of months, the first fight back was never going to be the optimum weight, his body has to grow accustomed to elite level training again. What did you expect?
4 stone 10lbs lighter he weighed in at 15 stones 2oz’s Fury was 19 stone 10 lbs and 2 oz’s... That’s a weight difference on my 11 year old daughter proper mismatch here..
Remember though...
Tony Bellew is far too small to be calling him out The Fury’s don’t really do risks so his comeback was always going to be a laughable opponent.
Just pleased he’s back
Yes, Haye in 2013 was a walkover, undefeated Chisora, Wlad when he was good in his own adopted country. No risks at all.
They don’t take risks. Wlad wasn’t a risk at all, it was for the title! That’s not a risk, that’s what it’s all about.
Haye was for big money. Reward outweighed the risk.
Chisora was never a risk. Tyson’s always been far too good for him.
I’m not saying it as a negative Mick, I’m just saying they don’t take risks. It’s not a bad way to go about it really. If the fighter is good enough, he’ll get there. Tyson showed that 100%
What’s it matter if they didn’t fancy Price back in the day for example? He beat Wlad.
You get too touchy when it comes to Tyson. I’m not part of the ‘AJ or Tyson, who do you pick, can’t like both’ mobs. I like both and actually prefer Tyson and hope he gets them all back!
rd350lc wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 12:55
I thought Fury had whipped himself into some sort of shape ?
God , he's still mahoosive .
I like the attitude he has come back with and even though this is an embarrassment of a match up , I hope he enjoys himself .
Cos when he fights someone that will hit him back properly he will need to take things a tad more seriously .
He has lost eight stone in a matter of months, the first fight back was never going to be the optimum weight, his body has to grow accustomed to elite level training again. What did you expect?
Fury will never have the chiseled body like AJ, a good body doesn't win fights skills do and Fury has them in abundance.
rd350lc wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 12:55
I thought Fury had whipped himself into some sort of shape ?
God , he's still mahoosive .
I like the attitude he has come back with and even though this is an embarrassment of a match up , I hope he enjoys himself .
Cos when he fights someone that will hit him back properly he will need to take things a tad more seriously .
He has lost eight stone in a matter of months, the first fight back was never going to be the optimum weight, his body has to grow accustomed to elite level training again. What did you expect?
Fury will never have the chiseled body like AJ, a good body doesn't win fights skills do and Fury has them in abundance.
very true,there were some very good heavyweights in the 80s that were fat but skillfull.
rd350lc wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 12:55
I thought Fury had whipped himself into some sort of shape ?
God , he's still mahoosive .
I like the attitude he has come back with and even though this is an embarrassment of a match up , I hope he enjoys himself .
Cos when he fights someone that will hit him back properly he will need to take things a tad more seriously .
He has lost eight stone in a matter of months, the first fight back was never going to be the optimum weight, his body has to grow accustomed to elite level training again. What did you expect?
Yes he's done well to do that , but he's still a lardarse and I expected a bit better conditioning tbh .
rd350lc wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 12:55
I thought Fury had whipped himself into some sort of shape ?
God , he's still mahoosive .
I like the attitude he has come back with and even though this is an embarrassment of a match up , I hope he enjoys himself .
Cos when he fights someone that will hit him back properly he will need to take things a tad more seriously .
He has lost eight stone in a matter of months, the first fight back was never going to be the optimum weight, his body has to grow accustomed to elite level training again. What did you expect?
Yes he's done well to do that , but he's still a lardarse and I expected a bit better conditioning tbh .
As Rexob said, he has never been that chiselled type and I think his conditioning now, considering where he started from, is on point. You can’t work the body too hard, it wouldn’t have been sensible to add a lot of muscle because when coming from so far back you have to be careful not to put too much stress on the body otherwise you will cause injuries. His current trainer has done a great job with healthy weight reduction, I’m not so sure about his boxing credentials but in the fitness side he seems spot on...
Tony Bellew is far too small to be calling him out The Fury’s don’t really do risks so his comeback was always going to be a laughable opponent.
Just pleased he’s back
Yes, Haye in 2013 was a walkover, undefeated Chisora, Wlad when he was good in his own adopted country. No risks at all.
They don’t take risks. Wlad wasn’t a risk at all, it was for the title! That’s not a risk, that’s what it’s all about.
Haye was for big money. Reward outweighed the risk.
Chisora was never a risk. Tyson’s always been far too good for him.
I’m not saying it as a negative Mick, I’m just saying they don’t take risks. It’s not a bad way to go about it really. If the fighter is good enough, he’ll get there. Tyson showed that 100%
What’s it matter if they didn’t fancy Price back in the day for example? He beat Wlad.
You get too touchy when it comes to Tyson. I’m not part of the ‘AJ or Tyson, who do you pick, can’t like both’ mobs. I like both and actually prefer Tyson and hope he gets them all back!
What am I missing here?! I would say, based on who Fury had fought previously, McDermott was a small risk, Chisora was definitely a risk (Fury was the underdog in that first fight), the signed Haye fight, regardless of money was a massive risk (at the time I thought Haye would Ko’him easily based on who’d floored Tyson and fighting Klitschko in Germany was a risk.
Yes - the fight tomorrow is awful but to say he’s not taken risks is quite revisionist.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi - 9 June 2018
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 16:02
by lillywhite14
All about opinions. I’m not sure Fury was underdog against Del Boy first time round either.
Haye could be determined to be a risk but for me the money cancels that out. It’s not a risk when it’s big money or for the pinnacle ( Wlad ) It’s what he’s in the game for isn’t it?
Big John was a bit of a risk to be fair.
When you look at who he’s faced, same with Hughie, it’s been done with a bit of care and thought put in to it. No punchers stands out. It’s not the fighters themselves, it’s just the way they’ve been taken through.
As I said before, it doesn’t matter a jot as long as they’re ready when the big time comes and Tyson showed he was obviously when he beat Wlad.
It’ll be the same this time until Joshua/Wilder.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi - 9 June 2018
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 16:27
by Wa1nuts
rd350lc wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 12:55
I thought Fury had whipped himself into some sort of shape ?
God , he's still mahoosive .
I like the attitude he has come back with and even though this is an embarrassment of a match up , I hope he enjoys himself .
Cos when he fights someone that will hit him back properly he will need to take things a tad more seriously .
Are you for real? How quickly do you think the human body can lose weight? He's lost more than 7 stone in a matter of months that is incredible. Give him another 6 months he can be lean he's a human not a robot
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi - 9 June 2018
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 16:39
by maverick23
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 16:02
All about opinions. I’m not sure Fury was underdog against Del Boy first time round either.
Haye could be determined to be a risk but for me the money cancels that out. It’s not a risk when it’s big money or for the pinnacle ( Wlad ) It’s what he’s in the game for isn’t it?
Big John was a bit of a risk to be fair.
When you look at who he’s faced, same with Hughie, it’s been done with a bit of care and thought put in to it. No punchers stands out. It’s not the fighters themselves, it’s just the way they’ve been taken through.
As I said before, it doesn’t matter a jot as long as they’re ready when the big time comes and Tyson showed he was obviously when he beat Wlad.
When I think of risk in boxing it’s risk about losing fights. I agree he would have been well in paid and as with the Klitschko I’m sure they weighed up the risk vs reward but I’d still say they were very risky fights.
I fancied Mitchell to beat Katsidis in that one. Was gutted. Was always a bit of a Mitchell fan.
Bet you weren’t cheering for him when Burns lit him up was you mate
Nah I was jumping around like a mentalist Again, I didn't expect that to happen! I thought Burns in a close decision.
Thanks, Stuarty I had completely forgotten about that fight, just enjoyed rewatching it...
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi - 9 June 2018
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 18:03
by Ruthless-RKO
Running Order
Doors: 15.45
Fight # 1 - 16:00 HRS
4 Round International Light-Heavyweight Contest
Zac Burton vs. Dominik Landgraf
Fight # 2
6 Round Heavyweight Contest
Alex Dickinson vs. Dave Howe (weigh-in on the day)
Fight # 3
6 Round Light-Heavyweight Contest
Lyndon Arthur vs. Charles Adamu
Fight # 4
6 Round Cruiserweight Contest
Jordan Thompson vs. Dmitri Kalinovski
Fight # 5
6 Round Super-Welterweight Contest
Jack McGann vs. Dwain Grant
Fight # 6
8 X 3 Minute Rounds Super-Featherweight Contest
Zelfa Barrett vs. Edwin Tellez
BT Sport broadcast goes live at 19:00 HRS
Fight # 7 - 19:05 HRS
10 Round Heavyweight Contest
Nathan Gorman vs. Sean Turner
Fight # 8
Vacant WBC International Super-Welterweight Championship
J.J Metcalf vs. Aitor Nieto
Fight # 9
Vacant WBC International Silver Middleweight Championship
Mark Heffron vs. Andrew Robinson
Fight # 10
“Frañk Warreñ, for Queensberry Promotions, sponsored by 32Red and FootAsylum and in association with RocNation Sports”
Vacant WBO World Super-Lightweight Championship
Terry Flanagan vs. Maurice Hooker
Fight # 11
“Frañk Warreñ, for Queensberry Promotions, sponsored by 32Red and FootAsylum and in association with EC Boxpromotion”
10 Round Heavyweight Contest
Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi
Floaters
Fight # 12
6 Round Super-Lightweight Contest
Sam Maxwell vs. Kane Baker
Fight # 13 – Follow On
8 Round Middleweight Contest
Jack Flatley vs. Troy Williamson
Fight # 14 – Follow On
8 Round Cruiserweight Contest
Jack Massey vs. Ian Tims
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi - 9 June 2018
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 18:04
by Ruthless-RKO
Mark Heffron is on TV..
Zelfa Barrett misses out.
Even if they started on allegedly from 4pm and switched completely over to BT at 7pm. That would have been okay. But BT probably wanted sole rights to this card.
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi - 9 June 2018
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 18:50
by dookus
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑08 Jun 2018, 16:02
All about opinions. I’m not sure Fury was underdog against Del Boy first time round either.
Boxing News I think only had one or two out of 14 going for Fury over Chisora
Re: Tyson Fury vs. Sefer Seferi - 9 June 2018
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 19:18
by IrishGuy
Fury talking about getting rounds and how friendly these seem isn't a good look.
The Fury’s don’t really do risks so his comeback was always going to be a laughable opponent. 
