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Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 00:04
by Brute
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Jun 2020, 19:15 Hughie Fury is like a taller, longer, heavier Ali :yay:
Hughie has fought 27 times and lost three times. Ali won his first 31 fights.

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 00:04
by margaret thatcher
Brute wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 00:04
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Jun 2020, 19:15 Hughie Fury is like a taller, longer, heavier Ali :yay:
Hughie has fought 27 times and lost three times. Ali won his first 31 fights.
Deontay Wilder won his first 40 something bruh

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 00:09
by margaret thatcher
And Ali already been dropped on his ass during that time, Hughie's never been down :yay:

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 00:16
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Plus sometimes hughie can go a whole 12 and not break a sweat. Thats skill

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 01:34
by Duran1970
margaret thatcher wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 00:09 And Ali already been dropped on his ass during that time, Hughie's never been down :yay:
😄 :lol:

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 07:40
by Ambling Alp II
oogiebe wrote: 25 Jun 2020, 19:34
margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Jun 2020, 19:30 lol dudes going on about people being caught up in some Fury fevor, having him totally out of place by discussing him with greats, etc....I don't agree and he's been underrated for years if anything---all the way to 2020 baby

Like I said, I still expect lots of dudes to talk themselves into him losing the 3rd fight by the time it comes
I see both sides represented here pretty equally. It ain't one sided. Duke is in love with TGK and Alp won't have him beating Braddock.
He is one of those rare guys who could beat Braddock but would be totally outclassed by Ali.

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 17:51
by mullenman
If wilder fought the best ten heavies of 1967 he would put at least five of them in a coffin. His power is way more than all them
Fighters

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 17:52
by oogiebe
mullenman wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 17:51 If wilder fought the best ten heavies of 1967 he would put at least five of them in a coffin. His power is way more than all them
Fighters
That's fine and dandy, but how about Ali vs today's crop?

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 18:26
by margaret thatcher
pfff, it's just some recency effect with Ali, let's see what people think in 100 years :oo

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 18:47
by lazboy
I've gone back and watched a few historical fights in these unprecedented times. It has made me appreciate how much the sport of boxing has improved. I watched M Ali and also Classius Clay recently. Both fighters have similar styles and I could see shades of Hughie Fury in Ali, in particular.

Some things though don't change, Ali v Clay never happened. Unfortunately, the business of boxing remains unable to make the great fights, even back in the 60s and 70s. Saying that Hughie would have annihilated them both in the same night so its a moot point.

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 18:54
by oogiebe
lazboy wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 18:47 I've gone back and watched a few historical fights in these unprecedented times. It has made me appreciate how much the sport of boxing has improved. I watched M Ali and also Classius Clay recently. Both fighters have similar styles and I could see shades of Hughie Fury in Ali, in particular.

Some things though don't change, Ali v Clay never happened. Unfortunately, the business of boxing remains unable to make the great fights, even back in the 60s and 70s. Saying that Hughie would have annihilated them both in the same night so its a moot point.
You're taking the piss, right? Ali vs Clay?

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 18:59
by lazboy
oogiebe wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 18:54
lazboy wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 18:47 I've gone back and watched a few historical fights in these unprecedented times. It has made me appreciate how much the sport of boxing has improved. I watched M Ali and also Classius Clay recently. Both fighters have similar styles and I could see shades of Hughie Fury in Ali, in particular.

Some things though don't change, Ali v Clay never happened. Unfortunately, the business of boxing remains unable to make the great fights, even back in the 60s and 70s. Saying that Hughie would have annihilated them both in the same night so its a moot point.
You're taking the piss, right? Ali vs Clay?
Yea I’m completely joking ffs! Lol. Apologies I’m bored.

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 19:00
by lazboy
It shouldn’t even be a question that I’m joking if not for all the crazy opinions we read on here.

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 19:06
by oogiebe
lazboy wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 19:00 It shouldn’t even be a question that I’m joking if not for all the crazy opinions we read on here.
Thank Christ! Thought you imploded. Ok, you got me! LMFAO!

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 19:15
by lazboy
Lol. Just trying to bring some humour into the world. The key word here is ‘trying’.

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 19:31
by oogiebe
lazboy wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 19:15 Lol. Just trying to bring some humour into the world. The key word here is ‘trying’.
To your point, some of the comments are so insane I had to ask! :lol:
Shoulda known better. :oops:

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 09:44
by Tony1244
oogiebe wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 18:54
lazboy wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 18:47 I've gone back and watched a few historical fights in these unprecedented times. It has made me appreciate how much the sport of boxing has improved. I watched M Ali and also Classius Clay recently. Both fighters have similar styles and I could see shades of Hughie Fury in Ali, in particular.

Some things though don't change, Ali v Clay never happened. Unfortunately, the business of boxing remains unable to make the great fights, even back in the 60s and 70s. Saying that Hughie would have annihilated them both in the same night so its a moot point.
You're taking the piss, right? Ali vs Clay?
Reminds me in college (yeah I'm old) I said to my girlfriend we are seeing Leonard Hearns @ the theater. This was before PPV, kids. And she asked, Who is Leonard Duran fighting?

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 27 Jun 2020, 11:50
by Enlightened-One
Brute wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 00:04
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Jun 2020, 19:15 Hughie Fury is like a taller, longer, heavier Ali :yay:
Hughie has fought 27 times and lost three times. Ali won his first 31 fights.
To be fair on Hughie Fury, when he was only 24 years of age, he’d already challenged for the WBO world heavyweight title and engaged in highly competitive bouts against the likes of Alexander Povetkin, Kubrat Pulev and Joseph Parker.

And according to ESPN and The RING, all three of those guys are currently classed as top-ten world-rated heavyweights.

Let’s not forget that a ridiculous amount of hype and praise has been lavished upon Efe Ajagba (despite the Nigerian’s poor resume), with Hughie Fury being despised, despite the former achieving far less in the sport than the latter.

So let’s not be too harsh on the Brit.

Anyway, for sure, Hughie Fury’s name doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Muhammad Ali’s, but there are undeniable stylistic similarities in their pugilistic fighting styles.

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 28 Jun 2020, 08:23
by ValMar
Enlightened-One wrote: 27 Jun 2020, 11:50
Brute wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 00:04

Hughie has fought 27 times and lost three times. Ali won his first 31 fights.
To be fair on Hughie Fury, when he was only 24 years of age, he’d already challenged for the WBO world heavyweight title and engaged in highly competitive bouts against the likes of Alexander Povetkin, Kubrat Pulev and Joseph Parker.

And according to ESPN and The RING, all three of those guys are currently classed as top-ten world-rated heavyweights.

Let’s not forget that a ridiculous amount of hype and praise has been lavished upon Efe Ajagba (despite the Nigerian’s poor resume), with Hughie Fury being despised, despite the former achieving far less in the sport than the latter.

So let’s not be too harsh on the Brit.

Anyway, for sure, Hughie Fury’s name doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Muhammad Ali’s, but there are undeniable stylistic similarities in their pugilistic fighting styles.
Interesting...…….
I did not expect....
This is a decent post...……...

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 28 Jun 2020, 14:14
by bobcatbox
I think 1967 Ali beats any active heavyweight. Fury is the only one who would give him a run for his money. Joshua would prove difficult due to size, but Ali would carry a fifteen round decision.

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 28 Jun 2020, 20:11
by asmund
Wins in -67 for Ali?

Ernie Terrell. Tall, bad footwork. Jab and hold. Made for Ali.
Zora Folley. On the slide.
Cleveland Williams (66). Feared, but shot in 64,not the same after.

None of them had a decent win after Ali.

PS: No Ali hater :wave:

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 01:02
by Syntax Error
lazboy wrote: 26 Jun 2020, 18:47 I've gone back and watched a few historical fights in these unprecedented times. It has made me appreciate how much the sport of boxing has improved. I watched M Ali and also Classius Clay recently. Both fighters have similar styles and I could see shades of Hughie Fury in Ali, in particular.

Some things though don't change, Ali v Clay never happened. Unfortunately, the business of boxing remains unable to make the great fights, even back in the 60s and 70s. Saying that Hughie would have annihilated them both in the same night so its a moot point.
Shades of Hughie Fury!🤯🤯🤯 :lol: :lol: :clap:

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 29 Jun 2020, 11:55
by Ambling Alp II
asmund wrote: 28 Jun 2020, 20:11 Wins in -67 for Ali?

Ernie Terrell. Tall, bad footwork. Jab and hold. Made for Ali.
Zora Folley. On the slide.
Cleveland Williams (66). Feared, but shot in 64,not the same after.

None of them had a decent win after Ali.

PS: No Ali hater :wave:
Sure you can find faults with Ali's opponents. You can do that with anyone. How about Fury? Beat Wilder. (also had a draw against him.) Who has Wilder beat? Plenty of faults with Wilder. Hard puncher and not a lot else. Has not beaten anyone since he fought Fury. (It's more important how the guy looked leading up to the fight anyway.) If Wilder retires now, does than mean fury's win doesn't count?

At some point you also have to look at the fighter's themselves, not just their opponents. Look at Fury. look at Ali. Can people really not tell that Ali was a lot better? I mean, come on.

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 10:56
by Tony1244
Hughie Fury's style is very much like Ali's. If they had fought at the same time, Hughie would have been a good sparring partner to train with if someone was scheduled to fight Ali. Thought Hughie was going to be a bit better actually. I thought he beat Parker.

Re: Muhammad Ali (1967) vs. current HWs ?

Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 21:03
by margaret thatcher
Hughie is the undisputed king of the air jab, not even Muh could match him there