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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 20:00 It’s poor form calling out Khan

There was plenty of respect from young Benn tbf. He said if he achieved half what Amir has he would be a happy man. Like his father he will throw everything into any fight whatever the outcome. Exactly what the his pro/anti fanbase is buying into and exactly why he deserves the money that comes with it.

Khan/Benn would generate plenty of interest and a big payday for both. Cant fault the young lad on the ascendency knowing his value and wanting those big purses before the bigger challenges that may or may not lie ahead.

Man, I’m from Bolton and Khan’s been one of my favourite fighters but Benn stops him brutally within 6 minutes.
That fight should not happen.
It’ll be Hooker or Mikey Garcia next for sure.
Probably the fat latter one.

highly doubt it will be mikey

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 21:14 highly doubt it will be mikey

Why? Doesn’t Hearn have done promotional rights to him? Or was it just Sandor Martin?

Lost 2 out of last 3. Is not a welter. More like a lightweight.

And he’s 35.

i think he's a free agent, he's too big and expensive a name to be brought over as a pawn for benn and he doesnt completely have feather fists so probably too risky any way

they'd go for khan though

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 21:31 i think he's a free agent, he's too big and expensive a name to be brought over as a pawn for benn and he doesnt completely have feather fists so probably too risky any way

they'd go for khan though

Just watching Hearn on IFL and he mentioned Mikey… but he also mentioned Hooker, Danny Garcia, Amir Khan ffs!

SticknMove wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 20:53

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 20:00 It’s poor form calling out Khan

There was plenty of respect from young Benn tbf. He said if he achieved half what Amir has he would be a happy man. Like his father he will throw everything into any fight whatever the outcome. Exactly what the his pro/anti fanbase is buying into and exactly why he deserves the money that comes with it.

Khan/Benn would generate plenty of interest and a big payday for both. Cant fault the young lad on the ascendency knowing his value and wanting those big purses before the bigger challenges that may or may not lie ahead.

I think his dad blatantly chucked the Collins rematch. He even admits it.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 18:41 Benn is too open to fight Ava.
It woebe a good test of his chin, but the risk of him losing isn't worth it.
Eddie's raking it in matching Benn against pillow fisted faded names.
It's cheap, profitable and low risk.

Is Eddie raking it in with Benn? Benn’s selling decent tickets but it’s not like he’s selling out arenas on his own. Plus I’d imagine he’s being well paid too.

Dioufy wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 21:13 Man, I’m from Bolton and Khan’s been one of my favourite fighters but Benn stops him brutally within 6 minutes.
That fight should not happen.
It’ll be Hooker or Mikey Garcia next for sure.
Probably the fat latter one.

Yeah - I’m thinking they might throw Mikey at him. Not really a fight I’m desperate to see given how Mikey looked against Martin. Also agree re: how easily Benn wipes out this version of Khan.

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:39

Dioufy wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 21:13 Man, I’m from Bolton and Khan’s been one of my favourite fighters but Benn stops him brutally within 6 minutes.
That fight should not happen.
It’ll be Hooker or Mikey Garcia next for sure.
Probably the fat latter one.

Yeah - I’m thinking they might throw Mikey at him. Not really a fight I’m desperate to see given how Mikey looked against Martin. Also agree re: how easily Benn wipes out this version of Khan.

Mike's too small, so it could be him, but he'll want paying.

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:35

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 18:41 Benn is too open to fight Ava.
It woebe a good test of his chin, but the risk of him losing isn't worth it.
Eddie's raking it in matching Benn against pillow fisted faded names.
It's cheap, profitable and low risk.

Is Eddie raking it in with Benn? Benn’s selling decent tickets but it’s not like he’s selling out arenas on his own. Plus I’d imagine he’s being well paid too.

Benn is a draw, and yes I believe he is making good money, but Eddie's not paying top dollar for his opponents, so more money for Eddie.
Benn is probably going to get found out at some stage, so the more Eddie can make from him until then, as an undefeated fighter, the better I guess.
Why would you risk it, when a loss devalues Benn in the eyes of the casual fans.
Look at Tank Davis - no real risks for him, and what an earner he is.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:41

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:39

Dioufy wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 21:13 Man, I’m from Bolton and Khan’s been one of my favourite fighters but Benn stops him brutally within 6 minutes.
That fight should not happen.
It’ll be Hooker or Mikey Garcia next for sure.
Probably the fat latter one.

Yeah - I’m thinking they might throw Mikey at him. Not really a fight I’m desperate to see given how Mikey looked against Martin. Also agree re: how easily Benn wipes out this version of Khan.

Mike's too small, so it could be him, but he'll want paying.

Yeah. Eddie will think it sells out the O2. I’m not so sure. I’d much rather Avanesyan and the bulk of the guys Maggie’s mentioned as possible opponents - someone with ambition.

Speakin of tank. I actually like marrio barrios as an opponent for benn. Wont happen but i think if you were talking pure progression match making he would be a good one.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:47

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:35

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 18:41 Benn is too open to fight Ava.
It woebe a good test of his chin, but the risk of him losing isn't worth it.
Eddie's raking it in matching Benn against pillow fisted faded names.
It's cheap, profitable and low risk.

Is Eddie raking it in with Benn? Benn’s selling decent tickets but it’s not like he’s selling out arenas on his own. Plus I’d imagine he’s being well paid too.

Benn is a draw, and yes I believe he is making good money, but Eddie's not paying top dollar for his opponents, so more money for Eddie.
Benn is probably going to get found out at some stage, so the more Eddie can make from him until then, as an undefeated fighter, the better I guess.
Why would you risk it, when a loss devalues Benn in the eyes of the casual fans.
Look at Tank Davis - no real risks for him, and what an earner he is.

I get why they’re doing it with Tank because they’ve got him on PPV and he’s selling out arenas but I’m not so sure with Benn. I think he’s being protected by Hearn/his management but more to ensure he’s ready to step up rather than milking the money out of him. Who knows though.

I think we can all agree he needs a step up fight next. Hopefully we get it.

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:55

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:47

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:35

Is Eddie raking it in with Benn? Benn’s selling decent tickets but it’s not like he’s selling out arenas on his own. Plus I’d imagine he’s being well paid too.

Benn is a draw, and yes I believe he is making good money, but Eddie's not paying top dollar for his opponents, so more money for Eddie.
Benn is probably going to get found out at some stage, so the more Eddie can make from him until then, as an undefeated fighter, the better I guess.
Why would you risk it, when a loss devalues Benn in the eyes of the casual fans.
Look at Tank Davis - no real risks for him, and what an earner he is.

I get why they’re doing it with Tank because they’ve got him on PPV and he’s selling out arenas but I’m not so sure with Benn. I think he’s being protected by Hearn/his management but more to ensure he’s ready to step up rather than milking the money out of him. Who knows though.

I think we can all agree he needs a step up fight next. Hopefully we get it.

Benn is 21 fights in and skipped over British, Commonwealth, European but no world title. I'm sure it will come once a belt becomes ready-made for him.

how much would it take to get mikey to fight benn? this is a guy who got paid 7m to fight jesse vargas. and would it be in the uk or usa? mikey has never fought outside north amurica

i dont see it at all tbh, will be talk of big names but end up being a ray robinson or mo hooker, just like has been the case so far

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 02:12

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:55

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 01:47
Benn is a draw, and yes I believe he is making good money, but Eddie's not paying top dollar for his opponents, so more money for Eddie.
Benn is probably going to get found out at some stage, so the more Eddie can make from him until then, as an undefeated fighter, the better I guess.
Why would you risk it, when a loss devalues Benn in the eyes of the casual fans.
Look at Tank Davis - no real risks for him, and what an earner he is.

I get why they’re doing it with Tank because they’ve got him on PPV and he’s selling out arenas but I’m not so sure with Benn. I think he’s being protected by Hearn/his management but more to ensure he’s ready to step up rather than milking the money out of him. Who knows though.

I think we can all agree he needs a step up fight next. Hopefully we get it.

Benn is 21 fights in and skipped over British, Commonwealth, European but no world title. I'm sure it will come once a belt becomes ready-made for him.

Yeah although they tried to make the fight with Jenkins for the British and Commonwealth titles. They just didn’t want to wait for purse bids for it and have longer out of the ring. It’s a shame as I always like it when boxers go the traditional route.

At the time I thought Jenkins would have won but in hindsight I think Benn would have done a job on him.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 02:18 how much would it take to get mikey to fight benn? this is a guy who got paid 7m to fight jesse vargas. and would it be in the uk or usa? mikey has never fought outside north amurica

i dont see it at all tbh, will be talk of big names but end up being a ray robinson or mo hooker, just like has been the case so far

You might be right. I wouldn’t have thought he’d have made close to $7m for the Martin fight. Sometimes fighters want to fight abroad, particularly in the U.K., like with Danny Jacobs recently. Perhaps Garcia’s in the same boat and would want a fight like that to fire him up. Or he’ll be happy to get chubbier and spend some of his multi millions.

Hearns not raking it from Benn but he is one of his very few decent UK assets. He could PPV at the right time if they continue the slow build.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 02:18 how much would it take to get mikey to fight benn? this is a guy who got paid 7m to fight jesse vargas. and would it be in the uk or usa? mikey has never fought outside north amurica

i dont see it at all tbh, will be talk of big names but end up being a ray robinson or mo hooker, just like has been the case so far

I cant see them affording mikey, especialy in england. I think mikey has too many options at 140 to be cheap enough.

Also doubt benns team like the matchup. Its a great fan match up, someone that would force benn to box the long game... But benn hasnt "boxxed" in years, do they want him learning infront of garcia... Mikeys combination of toughness and sharp counters (even if lacking power at 147) is a tricky one for Benn.

Only real carrot is being able to say "never been stopped, never been dropped" (say it 3 times a pissed up david higgins apears)...

It will be nice to see a step-up fight for Benn, a challenging one. Stanionis, Ortiz Jr, Thurman, although all those options aren't realistic. Give him at least Avanesyan.

gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 02:44

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 02:18 how much would it take to get mikey to fight benn? this is a guy who got paid 7m to fight jesse vargas. and would it be in the uk or usa? mikey has never fought outside north amurica

i dont see it at all tbh, will be talk of big names but end up being a ray robinson or mo hooker, just like has been the case so far

I cant see them affording mikey, especialy in england. I think mikey has too many options at 140 to be cheap enough.

Also doubt benns team like the matchup. Its a great fan match up, someone that would force benn to box the long game... But benn hasnt "boxxed" in years, do they want him learning infront of garcia... Mikeys combination of toughness and sharp counters (even if lacking power at 147) is a tricky one for Benn.

Only real carrot is being able to say "never been stopped, never been dropped" (say it 3 times a pissed up david higgins apears)...

ya agree, just doesnt make sense to me

KiwiRider wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 18:13 If Van Heerden fills a hall, headlining - why pay more?

The hall was barely a third full and app sales were not boosted.

gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 02:44

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Apr 2022, 02:18 how much would it take to get mikey to fight benn? this is a guy who got paid 7m to fight jesse vargas. and would it be in the uk or usa? mikey has never fought outside north amurica

i dont see it at all tbh, will be talk of big names but end up being a ray robinson or mo hooker, just like has been the case so far

I cant see them affording mikey, especialy in england. I think mikey has too many options at 140 to be cheap enough.

Also doubt benns team like the matchup. Its a great fan match up, someone that would force benn to box the long game... But benn hasnt "boxxed" in years, do they want him learning infront of garcia... Mikeys combination of toughness and sharp counters (even if lacking power at 147) is a tricky one for Benn.

Only real carrot is being able to say "never been stopped, never been dropped" (say it 3 times a pissed up david higgins apears)...

Classic
Boxing needs more David Higgins's.

I feel like he’s an accident waiting to happen. I think beating old men who aren’t punchers will give him a false sense of confidence.

Maybe he can suddenly tighten up against more dangerous fighters but I find it hard to believe he can go from been wide open taking big risks not worrying about what’s coming back to fighting very disciplined.

He’s exciting but I can’t see them stepping up. They’ll claim it’s a step up but it’ll be a big name past his best or at a weight too high.

Froch was talking sense suggesting Essuman. That’s a proper fight for me. I’d love to see it. You need to fight fighters with ambition who are young & fit & come through them if you’ve any chance at world level.