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Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 12:17
by quickeyg
Rick Glaser was the man
Glad Bomac is free.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 13:09
by Monzon83
Monzon83 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 17:13
He’s rich enough to afford a good lawyer. Plead innocence based on something like somebody else packed my bag and by some accident a gun was left in there and I had no idea it was even there. Plus some strings get pulled based on his community work.
I’ll bet money he doesn’t get sentenced to any UK prison time. Might not make bail though I guess he’s a flight risk. What a mess
Don’t want to say I told you so but I will.
Somebody offered to take that bet, I should have taken him up on that.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 13:14
by Boxerbeetle
The correct call.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 13:29
by Loynesy
Monzon83 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 13:09
Monzon83 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 17:13
He’s rich enough to afford a good lawyer. Plead innocence based on something like somebody else packed my bag and by some accident a gun was left in there and I had no idea it was even there. Plus some strings get pulled based on his community work.
I’ll bet money he doesn’t get sentenced to any UK prison time. Might not make bail though I guess he’s a flight risk. What a mess
Don’t want to say I told you so but I will.
Somebody offered to take that bet, I should have taken him up on that.
It was me, a lawyer of 25+ years of standing (admittedly not in criminal law) - you should have taken that bet mate!I do pay up.
I'm truly disgusted - the offence requires a clear custodial sentence under the sentencing guidelines,
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 13:30
by CaptainSpacerod
Common sense prevailed
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 13:42
by Loftgroov
Loftgroov wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 09:12
What a moron.
Being a Yank, the American embassy will intervene and he'll probably be let off somehow.
Knew it.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 14:53
by Nightmare Roy
I'm glad for Bud, it does sound like it was a genuine mistake, but he's VERY VERY lucky to get a suspended sentence. Any of us would be getting a 5 stretch for sure.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 15:01
by handsofstone
Deserved the jail just for the stupidity, it's like us taking a kinder egg to the states, you just wouldn't do it
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 15:03
by Coco
Good for him that he has had a touch, the time on remand would have been a bitch, but it shows how we are not equal in law.
Any of us would have had a lump behind the door, I don't just don't get how that is within sentencing guidelines
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 15:43
by Glass Joe
hes rubbing it in now.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 16:51
by SeanBrennan
you can tell the prison hard was life, he's lost.....ounces
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 17:35
by Monzon83
Loynesy wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 13:29
Monzon83 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 13:09
Monzon83 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 17:13
He’s rich enough to afford a good lawyer. Plead innocence based on something like somebody else packed my bag and by some accident a gun was left in there and I had no idea it was even there. Plus some strings get pulled based on his community work.
I’ll bet money he doesn’t get sentenced to any UK prison time. Might not make bail though I guess he’s a flight risk. What a mess
Don’t want to say I told you so but I will.
Somebody offered to take that bet, I should have taken him up on that.
It was me, a lawyer of 25+ years of standing (admittedly not in criminal law) - you should have taken that bet mate!I do pay up.
I'm truly disgusted - the offence requires a clear custodial sentence under the sentencing guidelines,
Haha no worries pal, next time
I guess I’m just much more cynical than most and I’ve seen wealth and status influence the legal process before.
It’s almost certain without his status and money he’d have done a stretch. That’s the world we live in.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 18:42
by SeanBrennan
let's be honest he was hardly planning to shoot anyone, and no one got shot, I do not see the problem. It's a bit different to some scally in a gang with a gun.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 19:21
by CaptainSpacerod
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 18:42
let's be honest he was hardly planning to shoot anyone, and no one got shot, I do not see the problem. It's a bit different to some scally in a gang with a gun.
Spot on pal
I can understand Loynesy’s frustration that a case where the accused was seemingly bang to rights resulted in the sentencing guidelines being ignored but I suppose we weren’t privy to all the facts and in any case they are just guidelines and sometimes circumstances dictate that those guidelines can be overlooked.
But as you say, in the real world Bomac isn’t a threat to society, he isn’t a recidivist who’s gonna go straight back to a life of crime and as I said earlier in the thread (to some mockery by one or two members) he’ll be a guy who contributes positively to his community in one way or another and those factors undoubtedly influenced this decision.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 03:10
by coneye
Suppose we can say Common sence , certainly not his
But on behalf of the judge common sence prevailed ,, Can understand Lonesy and anyone else involved in the law getting a bit peeved though , if your in the buisness off law and order it must piss you off when things are not upheld for some but are for others .. Be suprised if he ever gets back in the country though ,
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 05:58
by quickeyg
quickeyg wrote: ↑04 Oct 2023, 17:42
Been following a geezer on twitter who claims BoMac is heading home October 11th.
Hope he's right.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 06:54
by handsofstone
Rumours started on this very post that Bomac's a grass, clearly bollocks but best spread the word anyway
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 08:38
by Controversial
Probably the right punishment, Americans can carry guns legally and with all his travel in the states he’s probably done it many times when flying. Stupid but likely an oversight rather than anything dodgy. What’s more concerning is how it wasn't found when he arrived in the U.K.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 08:51
by Coco
handsofstone wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 06:54
Rumours started on this very post that Bomac's a grass, clearly bollocks but best spread the word anyway
Grassed on who? I doubt he knows villains in the UK, and would the British courts have any interest in US crims?
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 09:14
by handsofstone
Coco wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 08:51
handsofstone wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 06:54
Rumours started on this very post that Bomac's a grass, clearly bollocks but best spread the word anyway
Grassed on who? I doubt he knows villains in the UK, and would the British courts have any interest in US crims?
Ffs Coco did you read the post pal??
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 09:23
by 1328613
It’s quite extraordinary that he got off with a serious crime simply due to his work in the community. Astonishing really.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 11:07
by Frostieballs
What is the point in having non subjective laws if they aren’t upheld?
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 12:22
by Boxerbeetle
Controversial wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 08:38
Probably the right punishment, Americans can carry guns legally and with all his travel in the states he’s probably done it many times when flying. Stupid but likely an oversight rather than anything dodgy.
What’s more concerning is how it wasn't found when he arrived in the U.K.
He should make a claim against the airlines / airport for letting him into the country in the first place!
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 16:56
by Coco
handsofstone wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 09:14
Coco wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 08:51
handsofstone wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 06:54
Rumours started on this very post that Bomac's a grass, clearly bollocks but best spread the word anyway
Grassed on who? I doubt he knows villains in the UK, and would the British courts have any interest in US crims?
Ffs Coco did you read the post pal??
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 10 Oct 2023, 17:03
by Nightmare Roy
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 12:22
Controversial wrote: ↑10 Oct 2023, 08:38
Probably the right punishment, Americans can carry guns legally and with all his travel in the states he’s probably done it many times when flying. Stupid but likely an oversight rather than anything dodgy.
What’s more concerning is how it wasn't found when he arrived in the U.K.
He should make a claim against the airlines / airport for letting him into the country in the first place!
There was some talk he arrived on a privately chartered jet. I doubt they have the same level of security, ridiculous as it sounds