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How long till big John claims the KO was after the bell (by 1 nanosecond)…

Fisher pushing the ref away was an error, ref was probably trying to give him a nice 15 second evaluation with 15 seconds left in the round …

rhino222 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 17:50 Put Dave in with Dillian Whyte again. Whyte is shot to bits but would be a nice earner for Dave.

Whyte wouldn’t take that next.

That would be the fight he takes after a defeat to AJ or someone on a higher level

Coco wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:24

rd350lc wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:21

Coco wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:17

I think Adelaye or TKV are reasonable fights for Fisher after some confidence builders

Adelaye would fancy that I think.
Will Fisher be damaged goods and gun-shy now ?

I wouldn't really expect Fisher to win, but he could, he's a big strong guy and Adelaye can be hurt.
But that will be the pot of gold at the end of the confidence builder rainbow for Hearns boy

I think when Wardley stopped Adelaye it was volume that did it and he even stuck his tongue out when he was on the canvas and wasn't doing the chicken dance like Fisher was tonight, in a gunfight between the two I'd picked Adelayes chin to hold up better .

Coco wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:24

rd350lc wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:21

Coco wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:17

I think Adelaye or TKV are reasonable fights for Fisher after some confidence builders

Adelaye would fancy that I think.
Will Fisher be damaged goods and gun-shy now ?

I wouldn't really expect Fisher to win, but he could, he's a big strong guy and Adelaye can be hurt.
But that will be the pot of gold at the end of the confidence builder rainbow for Hearns boy

I'd watch that.

Fisher needs to probably go back to blazing windmills with a few confidence fights under his belt and he can probably still go a bit further. But he got splattered tonight quite easily it seemed. should probably stay away from crafty types!

he's found his level. now he needs to find his mojo.

very curious to see who Allen fights next. he sounds like Ronnie O'Sullivan sometimes talking about his sport. maybe he needs a sports psychologist

gregregegg wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:29 How long till big John claims the KO was after the bell (by 1 nanosecond)…

Fisher pushing the ref away was an error, ref was probably trying to give him a nice 15 second evaluation with 15 seconds left in the round …

definitely

"Confidence builders" now for a guy who can't beat Dave Allen.

They will try to milk the last few quid out of Fisher and they will be very very selective with the opponents. He just looks like a really poor mans Hughie in there. At the stage now of getting over some Latvian cabbies and bouncers to build him up for a Nick Webb fight

Glad Eddie didn't turn up in his PE kit tonight. Looked smart in his whistle.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:44 "Confidence builders" now for a guy who can't beat Dave Allen.

They will try to milk the last few quid out of Fisher and they will be very very selective with the opponents. He just looks like a really poor mans Hughie in there. At the stage now of getting over some Latvian cabbies and bouncers to build him up for a Nick Webb fight

i mean yeah. it'll be Latvian cabbies for confidence builders, for sure.

then maybe Hughie and Fisher

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:44 "Confidence builders" now for a guy who can't beat Dave Allen.

They will try to milk the last few quid out of Fisher and they will be very very selective with the opponents. He just looks like a really poor mans Hughie in there. At the stage now of getting over some Latvian cabbies and bouncers to build him up for a Nick Webb fight

As it should be. I don’t see anything wrong with it as long as while they are doing it him and his team arnt claiming to be the best ever…

If I were him I would take a long break from sparring and fighting for the brain… then 2026 come back at sub area level for 5 or 6 back to back to back wins and then work through area, English, and Mabey if he is good enough back to brittish levle…

It’s a luxury 99% don’t have but with fishers following and given he has already made some good money he could slow everything down get well back in the wins and come again…

The domestic scene is probably at it's all time low right now to have Adeleye and TKV fighting for the Brit title. Keep in mind Sokolowski won every round against Adeleye and got robbed.

I don't rate Adeleye at all. He was getting outboxed by TKV but he does have power. He shuts down when punches are coming back and simply won't throw back. He was lucky to land there in a clinch. TKV won't come in shape himself and is a basic plodder who lost to some random Brazilian. I think Allen would be competitive with them. I'd definitely pick him over Adeleye, who is near Fishers level. TKV would probably beat Allen but he's a poor fighter himself. So Allen has a path to the British title believe it or not.

It's harder to take Fisher to beat Adeleye but I can see an argument although he probably falls apart under pressure. I think TKV would bully him. That's a bad style matchup for Fisher. I think we just have a very low level at the top of the domestic scene right now. Even with that said, Fisher doesn't seem to have the chin or stamina to get to the British title. His skills are very basic and he needs a lot of time and space to do basic boxing and win fights that way.

Frazer Clarke can probably beat them but he has been very disappointing as a pro.

If I was managing Fisher, I'd be hoping Adeleye loses to TKV which he should and then they can both meet after they both have "confidence builders". Although if I was close to Fisher I'd be advising him to pack it in as he is not looking great when hes shipping punches. That's twice now we've seen his nervous system go into shutdown. Healthwise that will catch up to you later in life.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:44 "Confidence builders" now for a guy who can't beat Dave Allen.

They will try to milk the last few quid out of Fisher and they will be very very selective with the opponents. He just looks like a really poor mans Hughie in there. At the stage now of getting over some Latvian cabbies and bouncers to build him up for a Nick Webb fight

The state of heavyweight boxing is so bad that they could have easily fed Fisher more and more uber drivers and foreign guys with local padded records for the next 2-3 years and continued the hype train...

Thank god they agreed to fight Dave Allen and got that reality check over and done with.

Miguello wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 19:27

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 18:44 "Confidence builders" now for a guy who can't beat Dave Allen.

They will try to milk the last few quid out of Fisher and they will be very very selective with the opponents. He just looks like a really poor mans Hughie in there. At the stage now of getting over some Latvian cabbies and bouncers to build him up for a Nick Webb fight

The state of heavyweight boxing is so bad that they could have easily fed Fisher more and more uber drivers and foreign guys with local padded records for the next 2-3 years and continued the hype train...

Thank god they agreed to fight Dave Allen and got that reality check over and done with.

Difficult to do that after matching him against Babic, technically Allen was a step back after that.

Fisher can get wins against smaller, weaker guys.

To be brought forward he really needs to be carefully matched.

Then Hearns too often go too easy, then in at the deep end.

Fast Car needs to talk to Uncle Frank about how to do it

Fisher is a proper cash cow

well, let's see how enthusiastic the fisher support is now and if hes still cash cowing after he's been flattened

people are fickle. it may be that he has a built in 5,000 or so who will always be crazy for him no matter what, but a bad loss like this is a test of it

my guess, is that he's the type of fighter who once cracked is especially at risk of his career falling fast. like a kownacki.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 21:12 well, let's see how enthusiastic the fisher support is now and if hes still cash cowing after he's been flattened

people are fickle. it may be that he has a built in 5,000 or so who will always be crazy for him no matter what, but a bad loss like this is a test of it

my guess, is that he's the type of fighter who once cracked is especially at risk of his career falling fast. like a kownacki.

5k crowd at 50 quid a pop generates 250k

ya it's also assuming he takes no hit at all from being brutally ko'd to lose his 0. lets see if his support is the same moving ahead after being flattened, my guess is it's not so enthusiastic, doubt he'll be headlining next either

He is going to have to step way back. So 5000 is impossible.

The real question is can he get a few hundred to go watch him fight arsen fosso, dobvechenko, Hammer, wach…. And can he be happy with that.

Needs a long rest then a long rebuild… shouldent be in a real fight that could sell over 1000 tickets within 12-18 months I don’t think…

The knockout sequence was pretty funny.

Hopefully now, that's the last we see of Fisher and his family.

The crowd reacted like Allen was their man so maybe there were a lot of neutrals in the bottom tier visible on tv.

Is that a knock on from the move to Saudi ? Maybe there's a real pent up demand here for live big night boxing.

i am surprised so many thought Fisher was gonna beat Allen this time round. Fisher is shit. He's been facing a carousel of bums and lost to Allen the first time round anyway. It was obvious Allen now realised he could actually beat Fisher and so was going to come in better prepared and better motivated than last time where he was just after a pay day until the knockdown, when he actually realised he could hurt Fisher and win.

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 23:34 Hopefully now, that's the last we see of Fisher and his family.

Wishful thinking, Big John is a man absolutely starving for attention, he isn't going anywhere!

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 02:19 i am surprised so many thought Fisher was gonna beat Allen this time round. Fisher is shit. He's been facing a carousel of bums and lost to Allen the first time round anyway. It was obvious Allen now realised he could actually beat Fisher and so was going to come in better prepared and better motivated than last time where he was just after a pay day until the knockdown, when he actually realised he could hurt Fisher and win.

Well it's Dave Allen. You can't trust him to do anything. In hindsight, if Fisher couldn't beat the fat late notice Allen who had to fly to Saudi for the fight then he was probably not going to beat the same Allen in the UK. If anything Allen came in poorer shape but the fact that Fisher couldn't budge him in the first fight should have counted towards predictions. Fisher is not exactly a guy who can improve. He just is what he is. He'll have even less confidence and be more gunshy now that he has had the faceplant KO. Allen was much better this time when he had Fisher going.

I'm well miserable to be honest had Dave to KO Fisher @ 25/1 ..Stuck £30 on him .. Watched the fight and saw the Devisting Ko to be told it's a TKO by the bookie ffs

scrinja wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 04:01 I'm well miserable to be honest had Dave to KO Fisher @ 25/1 ..Stuck £30 on him .. Watched the fight and saw the Devisting Ko to be told it's a TKO by the bookie ffs

Geez.

It’s very tough to get a proper KO. The ref has to count to 10 so even if he waves it off mid count I still think it goes down as a TKO.

On this one the towel came in and there was no need for a count.

I’d never bet on KO only. Too many variables.

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 02:19 i am surprised so many thought Fisher was gonna beat Allen this time round. Fisher is shit. He's been facing a carousel of bums and lost to Allen the first time round anyway. It was obvious Allen now realised he could actually beat Fisher and so was going to come in better prepared and better motivated than last time where he was just after a pay day until the knockdown, when he actually realised he could hurt Fisher and win.

Allen knew he had the beating of Fisher before the first fight, he said it multiple times on his social media.