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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 05 Sep 2026, 18:48
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 05 Sep 2026, 18:48
No idea tbh, maybe just because it’s always been that way, a bit like female tennis players only playing 3 sets instead of 5rd350lc wrote: ↑Yesterday, 18:07Dangerous in what way?Controversial wrote: ↑Yesterday, 17:46Think it was deemed too dangerous although I think a few female fighters want 3 minute rounds.
Am I missing something? They hit so lightly but OK for men to get absolutely banjoed around the ring.
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 05 Sep 2026, 19:36
I just could'nt be bothered waste of time getting up to watch , did'nt enjoy the bout , and Smith getting on my nerves so , i went back to bed , good nights sleep ruined
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 05 Sep 2026, 20:40
Last weekend, Caroline Dubois defended her world title against an opponent with only four professional fights.
Katie Taylor unified the super-lightweight division by beating an opponent with only 12 fights (with the fighters she beat failing to win 91 of their bouts). It was a mismatch.
A few weeks ago, Claressa Shields won the WBC middleweight title from an opponent with only five wins. That fighter had also failed to win her previous two bouts before claiming the vacant belt.
Women’s boxing is in a terrible state right now.
Katie Taylor is an all time great in terms of her impact on women’s boxing, but she competed in an era where the overall talent pool of female fighters was exceptionally shallow (statistically and also in terms of fundamental boxing skills).
Katie Taylor unified the super-lightweight division by beating an opponent with only 12 fights (with the fighters she beat failing to win 91 of their bouts). It was a mismatch.
A few weeks ago, Claressa Shields won the WBC middleweight title from an opponent with only five wins. That fighter had also failed to win her previous two bouts before claiming the vacant belt.
Women’s boxing is in a terrible state right now.
Katie Taylor is an all time great in terms of her impact on women’s boxing, but she competed in an era where the overall talent pool of female fighters was exceptionally shallow (statistically and also in terms of fundamental boxing skills).
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 05 Sep 2026, 22:22
Just got back in after a night of carnage. Instead of re-running this back I ll try and coach this bird to use both hands and end this nightmare with some spurting dignity
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 05 Sep 2026, 23:01
Actually, women's boxing is in the best state it's ever been in.Eolaithe wrote: ↑Yesterday, 20:40 Last weekend, Caroline Dubois defended her world title against an opponent with only four professional fights.
Katie Taylor unified the super-lightweight division by beating an opponent with only 12 fights (with the fighters she beat failing to win 91 of their bouts). It was a mismatch.
A few weeks ago, Claressa Shields won the WBC middleweight title from an opponent with only five wins. That fighter had also failed to win her previous two bouts before claiming the vacant belt.
Women’s boxing is in a terrible state right now.
Katie Taylor is an all time great in terms of her impact on women’s boxing, but she competed in an era where the overall talent pool of female fighters was exceptionally shallow (statistically and also in terms of fundamental boxing skills).
And also, both your statement and mine are true.
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 03:29
Totally agree, they couldn't give tickets away to some really good match ups last weekend with proper fights.Eolaithe wrote: ↑Yesterday, 20:40 Last weekend, Caroline Dubois defended her world title against an opponent with only four professional fights.
Katie Taylor unified the super-lightweight division by beating an opponent with only 12 fights (with the fighters she beat failing to win 91 of their bouts). It was a mismatch.
A few weeks ago, Claressa Shields won the WBC middleweight title from an opponent with only five wins. That fighter had also failed to win her previous two bouts before claiming the vacant belt.
Women’s boxing is in a terrible state right now.
Katie Taylor is an all time great in terms of her impact on women’s boxing, but she competed in an era where the overall talent pool of female fighters was exceptionally shallow (statistically and also in terms of fundamental boxing skills).
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 03:42
I got sick of hearing a few quotes last night.
Can someone give me credible answers and evidence to these 2 points.
Katie Taylor changed boxing. How and when?
Katie Taylor changed people's lives forever. How and when?
Can someone give me credible answers and evidence to these 2 points.
Katie Taylor changed boxing. How and when?
Katie Taylor changed people's lives forever. How and when?
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 05:46
Female boxing was illegal in Ireland, she boxed pretending to be a boy and later lobbied the IABA to drop the female ban, she took part in the first female sanctioned fight in Ireland. She also was instrumental in getting female boxing added into the Olympic Games, showcasing her talents to Olympic officials which ultimately allowed for females to take part. She won gold in 2012 Olympics which was first Olympics females were allowed to box in. First female to get real major backing from a top promotor. First female to headline at MSG. Instrumental in getting huge influx of females taking up boxing. Fought for better pay for female boxers. Good role model.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 05:54
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 06:03
The first one you could start with Taylor being the highest profile amateur fighter in her time, and the one who was pushing hardest to get it into the Olympics, without her that may not have happened nearly as soon as it did (if at all).
The Olympic profile was very important for building many female pro fighters careers after.
When she turned pro, Matchroom/Sky gave her far more media attention than any female boxer in Ireland/UK had ever gotten by a considerable distance.
There's no question this would have helped inspire young female boxers, and also Taylor was earning better purses than the vast majority of female fighters had.
That also helped break a glass ceiling for the concept of paying female fighters decent purses.
Now maybe some here would feel better if it wasn't this way, but without her we wouldn't be seeing nearly as much professional female boxing on TV as we do, and that quantity of coverage and money is bringing the standard of female boxing up all the time.
For example Shannen Courtenay wouldn't have a hope of winning a World title now, but waltzed into one just a few short years ago.
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 06:06
Results
Main card
Katie Taylor def. Flora Pili by unanimous decision (100-90, 98-91, 100-90)
Dave Allen vs. Thomas Carty – No Contest (doctor stoppage, R1, 1:22)*
Paddy Donovan def. Tyrone McKenna by TKO (R4, 2:33)
Taylor Bevan def. Emmet Brennan by TKO (R6, 0:36)
Prelims
Molly McCann def. Sylwia Doligala by unanimous decision (79-73, 80-72, 80-73)
Joe McGrail def. Matthew Boreland by KO (R5, 3:03)
Bobbi Flood def. Jack Swallow by points (40-36)
Adam Olaniyan def. Matej Hudak by KO (R1, 3:00)
Paul Ryan def. Paddy Gallagher by points (58-55)
*Carty fell out of the ring and was unable to continue.
Main card
Katie Taylor def. Flora Pili by unanimous decision (100-90, 98-91, 100-90)
Dave Allen vs. Thomas Carty – No Contest (doctor stoppage, R1, 1:22)*
Paddy Donovan def. Tyrone McKenna by TKO (R4, 2:33)
Taylor Bevan def. Emmet Brennan by TKO (R6, 0:36)
Prelims
Molly McCann def. Sylwia Doligala by unanimous decision (79-73, 80-72, 80-73)
Joe McGrail def. Matthew Boreland by KO (R5, 3:03)
Bobbi Flood def. Jack Swallow by points (40-36)
Adam Olaniyan def. Matej Hudak by KO (R1, 3:00)
Paul Ryan def. Paddy Gallagher by points (58-55)
*Carty fell out of the ring and was unable to continue.
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 06:22
Germany had Regina Halmich, Susi Kentikian and later Christina Hammer long before Taylor turned pro, and they were genuinely popular.
But boxing in Germany was big in general back then. Now the sport is basically dead here and you don't see anything comparable, male or female. So I do wonder how much of their success was simply being in the right place at the right time.
Could be partly the same with Taylor with Matchroom behind her and the whole UK/Ireland boxing boom around her.
But boxing in Germany was big in general back then. Now the sport is basically dead here and you don't see anything comparable, male or female. So I do wonder how much of their success was simply being in the right place at the right time.
Could be partly the same with Taylor with Matchroom behind her and the whole UK/Ireland boxing boom around her.
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 06:24
Yep, as much as they try and push female boxing the fact of the matter the standard is generally poor. If you are half decent you will probably win a title. In the mens sport you can be a great fighter and still never win a title.Eolaithe wrote: ↑Yesterday, 20:40 Last weekend, Caroline Dubois defended her world title against an opponent with only four professional fights.
Katie Taylor unified the super-lightweight division by beating an opponent with only 12 fights (with the fighters she beat failing to win 91 of their bouts). It was a mismatch.
A few weeks ago, Claressa Shields won the WBC middleweight title from an opponent with only five wins. That fighter had also failed to win her previous two bouts before claiming the vacant belt.
Women’s boxing is in a terrible state right now.
Katie Taylor is an all time great in terms of her impact on women’s boxing, but she competed in an era where the overall talent pool of female fighters was exceptionally shallow (statistically and also in terms of fundamental boxing skills).
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 06:26
I guess you can say this about lots of people, often things are down to luck and timing.Heldenjaeger wrote: ↑Today, 06:22 So I do wonder how much of their success was simply being in the right place at the right time.
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 07:06
The big problem Taylor has had was the Kinahan feud. She should have spent the majority of her career headlining in Ireland with Croke Park being an annual event in the summer.
It’s a shame that she’s only recently been able to fight in her home country.
It’s a shame that she’s only recently been able to fight in her home country.
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 07:23
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 07:51
Here is a list of world title fights (within the last three years) featuring BoxRec’s top 20 female pound-for-pound boxers against opponents with ten or fewer professional fights:
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Claressa Shields - World Title Opponent: Danielle Perkins (5-0) - Title(s): WBC / IBF / WBA / WBO heavyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Claressa Shields - World Title Opponent: Vanessa Lepage-Joanisse (7-1) - Title(s): WBC heavyweight / WBO light-heavyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Gabriela Fundora - World Title Opponent: Christina Cruz (6-0) - Title(s): IBF flyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Skye Nicolson - World Title Opponent: Raven Chapman (9-0) - Title(s): WBC featherweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Mizuki Hiruta - World Title Opponent: Naomy Cárdenas (9-0) - Title(s): WBO super-flyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Caroline Dubois - World Title Opponent: Amelia Moore (4-0) - Title(s): WBC / WBO lightweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Lauren Price - World Title Opponent: Stephanie Piñeiro (10-0) - Title(s): Unified welterweight titles
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Tiara Brown - World Title Opponent: Hannah Rapp (8-0-1) - Title(s): WBC featherweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Elif Nur Turhan - World Title Opponent: Beatriz Ferreira (8-0) - Title(s): IBF lightweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Elif Nur Turhan - World Title Opponent: Taylah Gentzen (8-1) - Title(s): IBF lightweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Elif Nur Turhan - World Title Opponent: Gabriela Tellez (7-0) - Title(s): IBF lightweight
From the same BoxRec top 20 female pound-for-pound rankings list, these women became recognised world champions after having no more than 10 professional fights:
• Claressa Shields (4-0) - WBC & IBF super-middleweight champion
• Mizuki Hiruta (4-0) - WBO super-flyweight champion
• Katie Taylor (7-0) - WBA lightweight champion
• Ellie Scotney (7-0) - IBF super-bantamweight champion
• Lauren Price (7-0) - WBA welterweight champion
• Skye Nicolson (10-0) - WBC featherweight champion
• Caroline Dubois (10-0) - WBC lightweight champion
It is striking that mainstream media often overlooks two major problems in women’s professional boxing: a serious lack of depth in the talent pool; and poor matchmaking.
The mainstream media pushes female fighters towards fame and becoming world champions far too quickly. At the same time, the sports' governing bodies protect their sanctioning fees by ordering these fast-tracked champions to defend their titles against inexperienced challengers.
Katie Taylor is an all-time great because of her impact on women’s boxing, but her sporting legacy is far weaker than those of her male counterparts, due of the lack of talented females competing in the sport.
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Claressa Shields - World Title Opponent: Danielle Perkins (5-0) - Title(s): WBC / IBF / WBA / WBO heavyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Claressa Shields - World Title Opponent: Vanessa Lepage-Joanisse (7-1) - Title(s): WBC heavyweight / WBO light-heavyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Gabriela Fundora - World Title Opponent: Christina Cruz (6-0) - Title(s): IBF flyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Skye Nicolson - World Title Opponent: Raven Chapman (9-0) - Title(s): WBC featherweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Mizuki Hiruta - World Title Opponent: Naomy Cárdenas (9-0) - Title(s): WBO super-flyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Caroline Dubois - World Title Opponent: Amelia Moore (4-0) - Title(s): WBC / WBO lightweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Lauren Price - World Title Opponent: Stephanie Piñeiro (10-0) - Title(s): Unified welterweight titles
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Tiara Brown - World Title Opponent: Hannah Rapp (8-0-1) - Title(s): WBC featherweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Elif Nur Turhan - World Title Opponent: Beatriz Ferreira (8-0) - Title(s): IBF lightweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Elif Nur Turhan - World Title Opponent: Taylah Gentzen (8-1) - Title(s): IBF lightweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Elif Nur Turhan - World Title Opponent: Gabriela Tellez (7-0) - Title(s): IBF lightweight
From the same BoxRec top 20 female pound-for-pound rankings list, these women became recognised world champions after having no more than 10 professional fights:
• Claressa Shields (4-0) - WBC & IBF super-middleweight champion
• Mizuki Hiruta (4-0) - WBO super-flyweight champion
• Katie Taylor (7-0) - WBA lightweight champion
• Ellie Scotney (7-0) - IBF super-bantamweight champion
• Lauren Price (7-0) - WBA welterweight champion
• Skye Nicolson (10-0) - WBC featherweight champion
• Caroline Dubois (10-0) - WBC lightweight champion
It is striking that mainstream media often overlooks two major problems in women’s professional boxing: a serious lack of depth in the talent pool; and poor matchmaking.
The mainstream media pushes female fighters towards fame and becoming world champions far too quickly. At the same time, the sports' governing bodies protect their sanctioning fees by ordering these fast-tracked champions to defend their titles against inexperienced challengers.
Katie Taylor is an all-time great because of her impact on women’s boxing, but her sporting legacy is far weaker than those of her male counterparts, due of the lack of talented females competing in the sport.
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 07:57
Mainstream media doesn’t give a toss about boxing generally, but covering the women gives them an easy opportunity to show how enlightened they are with equal rights. And boxing promoters like it because it’s sellable to broadcasters as a novelty and frankly it’s cheap because the purses are so low in comparison to the men.
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 08:10
Yeah brilliant Dave, a “professional” sportsman making light of being out of shape.
I realise this is just part of his everyman shtick, a variant of his “I’m just a fat bloke down the pub who can handle himself” attitude but boxing is a serious business. I expect his lack of commitment to his fitness will cause him to have some regrets as he gets older
Re: Round-by-Round: Katie Taylor vs. Flora Pili | DAZN - 5 September 2026
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 09:18
There's no question female boxing has only a fraction of the depth of their male equivalents, and you can't consider Taylor's accomplishments in the same category as a Male who's done the same.Eolaithe wrote: ↑Today, 07:51 Here is a list of world title fights (within the last three years) featuring BoxRec’s top 20 female pound-for-pound boxers against opponents with ten or fewer professional fights:
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Claressa Shields - World Title Opponent: Danielle Perkins (5-0) - Title(s): WBC / IBF / WBA / WBO heavyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Claressa Shields - World Title Opponent: Vanessa Lepage-Joanisse (7-1) - Title(s): WBC heavyweight / WBO light-heavyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Gabriela Fundora - World Title Opponent: Christina Cruz (6-0) - Title(s): IBF flyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Skye Nicolson - World Title Opponent: Raven Chapman (9-0) - Title(s): WBC featherweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Mizuki Hiruta - World Title Opponent: Naomy Cárdenas (9-0) - Title(s): WBO super-flyweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Caroline Dubois - World Title Opponent: Amelia Moore (4-0) - Title(s): WBC / WBO lightweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Lauren Price - World Title Opponent: Stephanie Piñeiro (10-0) - Title(s): Unified welterweight titles
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Tiara Brown - World Title Opponent: Hannah Rapp (8-0-1) - Title(s): WBC featherweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Elif Nur Turhan - World Title Opponent: Beatriz Ferreira (8-0) - Title(s): IBF lightweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Elif Nur Turhan - World Title Opponent: Taylah Gentzen (8-1) - Title(s): IBF lightweight
• Pound-for-Pound Fighter: Elif Nur Turhan - World Title Opponent: Gabriela Tellez (7-0) - Title(s): IBF lightweight
From the same BoxRec top 20 female pound-for-pound rankings list, these women became recognised world champions after having no more than 10 professional fights:
• Claressa Shields (4-0) - WBC & IBF super-middleweight champion
• Mizuki Hiruta (4-0) - WBO super-flyweight champion
• Katie Taylor (7-0) - WBA lightweight champion
• Ellie Scotney (7-0) - IBF super-bantamweight champion
• Lauren Price (7-0) - WBA welterweight champion
• Skye Nicolson (10-0) - WBC featherweight champion
• Caroline Dubois (10-0) - WBC lightweight champion
It is striking that mainstream media often overlooks two major problems in women’s professional boxing: a serious lack of depth in the talent pool; and poor matchmaking.
The mainstream media pushes female fighters towards fame and becoming world champions far too quickly. At the same time, the sports' governing bodies protect their sanctioning fees by ordering these fast-tracked champions to defend their titles against inexperienced challengers.
Katie Taylor is an all-time great because of her impact on women’s boxing, but her sporting legacy is far weaker than those of her male counterparts, due of the lack of talented females competed in the sport.
But it's not her fault the depth wasn't there in her era, and she's one of the main reasons the depth is improving.
As I mentioned previously, Shannon Courtenay was a World champion 5 years ago, and whatever about the decline in her own ability, if you take the fighter she was 5 years ago, I don't know if that'd be enough to win a Female British title now.
The depth is improving quite quickly, particularly in the Bantamweight-Welterweight weight classes.