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Is Cabellero just a limited fighter with freakish size for the weight like i heard?

Shades of McGuigan v Pedroza, right place right time.

Barney Eastwood was hailed a genius for the matchmaking so well done Brian Peters.

re Caballero - Well let's see, in one or two fights he didn't look so hot. But he stoped Molitor in Canada, Sitchatchawal in Thailand, outslugged Ponce de Leon in California (PDL adopted home). He's a unified champ and is in the Ring top 10 p4p. If he was "just" a big guy I don't think he would have done that much. He can make hard work of things but when he's put in a hard situation he really shows that elite level quality.

The one interesting thing linking Dunne and Caballero - Caballero also won the "regular" title, also. Took him a long time to be able to get hold of the proper WBA champ.

Dunne - talented, popular, etc. Perfect fighter for Caballero to come over and smash in his hometown. This is what CC does in his sleep, beat up the home boy who calls himself champ. Wonder if the Dunne fans would want to see that fight!

Props to Dunne. Has learned to survive and get the win.

Autobarn wrote:re Caballero - Well let's see, in one or two fights he didn't look so hot. But he stoped Molitor in Canada, Sitchatchawal in Thailand, outslugged Ponce de Leon in California (PDL adopted home). He's a unified champ and is in the Ring top 10 p4p. If he was "just" a big guy I don't think he would have done that much. He can make hard work of things but when he's put in a hard situation he really shows that elite level quality.

The one interesting thing linking Dunne and Caballero - Caballero also won the "regular" title, also. Took him a long time to be able to get hold of the proper WBA champ.

Dunne - talented, popular, etc. Perfect fighter for Caballero to come over and smash in his hometown. This is what CC does in his sleep, beat up the home boy who calls himself champ. Wonder if the Dunne fans would want to see that fight!

Props to Dunne. Has learned to survive and get the win.

I doubt Dunne would last 5 rouns with Caballero - but you never know!

Fantastic performance from Dunne - shocked that he stopped Cordoba. I have to say though - the commentating was atrocious!

WOW amazing - well done to bernard, esp after rd 5. That will keep him in good stead for the future. clawing back after the jaws of defeat - he really did his homework after kiko martinez.

I for one, didnt think he had a world title in him, but as a proud irishman I'm glad i was wrong.

Peters now will make him serious cash - the irish love a bandwagon.

and remember......

it will be all hunky dory

PS. Why do RTE insist on jimmy magee for commentating - he called the fight over when cordoba slipped

he is a silly man

Autobarn wrote: The one interesting thing linking Dunne and Caballero - Caballero also won the "regular" title, also. Took him a long time to be able to get hold of the proper WBA champ.

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wrong. cabellero beat somsak for the proper wba title without any of this super title bullshit being involved.
dunne isnt a world champion and he should not be referred to as such - all he has done is win an eliminator against cordoba.

Well lets hope we see Dunne v Monroe

Brian Peters 1-0 Frank Maloney

Well done Ireland! A great night.

lowersmiths wrote:

Autobarn wrote: The one interesting thing linking Dunne and Caballero - Caballero also won the "regular" title, also. Took him a long time to be able to get hold of the proper WBA champ.

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wrong. cabellero beat somsak for the proper wba title without any of this super title bullshit being involved.
dunne isnt a world champion and he should not be referred to as such - all he has done is win an eliminator against cordoba.

Hopefully he can defend his eliminator in the near future so......

BigEars wrote:

lowersmiths wrote:

Autobarn wrote: The one interesting thing linking Dunne and Caballero - Caballero also won the "regular" title, also. Took him a long time to be able to get hold of the proper WBA champ.

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wrong. cabellero beat somsak for the proper wba title without any of this super title bullshit being involved.
dunne isnt a world champion and he should not be referred to as such - all he has done is win an eliminator against cordoba.

Hopefully he can defend his eliminator in the near future so......

sucker

lowersmiths wrote:

Autobarn wrote: The one interesting thing linking Dunne and Caballero - Caballero also won the "regular" title, also. Took him a long time to be able to get hold of the proper WBA champ.

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wrong. cabellero beat somsak for the proper wba title without any of this super title bullshit being involved.
dunne isnt a world champion and he should not be referred to as such - all he has done is win an eliminator against cordoba.

it's still the WBA splitting their title to get more sanctioning fees.

agreed, dunne's not a world champion - not really. but he will have to defend vs some of caballero's top contenders.

however this "eliminator against cordoba" will allow dunne to call himself world champ, to headline some big main events, to defend the WBA strap. he will be treated like a world champ proper in ireland.

The splitting of the title is pretty much justified...it means Cabballero can participate in super-fights without being stripped, I dont fall out with it at all...

Dunne is A world champion, just not THE world champion!!!

how is it justfied in any way, shape or form? it is blatant profiteering with absolutely no respect for the sport

Well it was a performance of a champion against a world class operator and thats what counts for me.

I thought Cordoba was winning the fight comfortably for the first 2 rounds, then Dunne caught him with a peach - but it looked like a minor blip as Cordoba controlled the fourth and dominated the 5th. I was sure they fight wasn't going to see the 7th round, and I was preparing to write "Game but outclassed" on the post fight thread... but then, Dunne found away and dominated the last half of the fight. I think the fight was very close on the cards at the end, but Dunne made sure of it.

were are you now frank ? lets get rendell in there with dunne in the 02 in dublin . what a night that would be and hopefully the munroe fans will all shut up then

Cracking night, cracking atmosphere, easily the best fight I have ever seen live, the only downside was paying 6.50 euros for a pint

lowersmiths wrote:
sucker

Not really, I do agree with you in a way.

But to me Caballero isn't much more of a World Champion. Israel Vasquez is the true Super-Bantamweight champion of the World and everyone else is just a contender no matter what they have around their waist. Some contenders are just a bit better than others, Dunne has established himself as a very good contender and due to the nature of modern boxing has a 'World title' to defend.

Yes it is the 'regular' title which shouldn't even exist, but if boxing was right the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO wouldn't exist we'd only have one fornicating belt. But that's life .

BigEars wrote:

lowersmiths wrote:
sucker

Not really, I do agree with you in a way.

But to me Caballero isn't much more of a World Champion. Israel Vasquez is the true Super-Bantamweight champion of the World and everyone else is just a contender no matter what they have around their waist. Some contenders are just a bit better than others, Dunne has established himself as a very good contender and due to the nature of modern boxing has a 'World title' to defend.

Yes it is the 'regular' title which shouldn't even exist, but if boxing was right the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO wouldn't exist we'd only have one effing belt. But that's life .

no it's not life, it's the WBA destroying boxing by creating fake belts.

Dunne is a contender after beating Cordoba (who has never won a world title fight). There is no way Dunne can be considered a world champion after beating a man who was basically given a fake belt for no reason other than cash.

BigEars wrote:

lowersmiths wrote:
sucker

Not really, I do agree with you in a way.

But to me Caballero isn't much more of a World Champion. Israel Vasquez is the true Super-Bantamweight champion of the World and everyone else is just a contender no matter what they have around their waist. Some contenders are just a bit better than others, Dunne has established himself as a very good contender and due to the nature of modern boxing has a 'World title' to defend.

Yes it is the 'regular' title which shouldn't even exist, but if boxing was right the WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO wouldn't exist we'd only have one effing belt. But that's life .

Caballero's a great fighter, but he'll never be given a shot at vazquez as he presents too much risk. He's a worthy champ in his own right IMO, done everything else a fighter could do, winning a title away from home, destroying Molitor in unification, etc. He's considered a top p4p fighter and is a threat to anyone. I feel multiple world champs are just a reality.

Even though Vazquez is the real champ, all his defences came against bantamweights who moved up and he may not even fight at super bantam again.

While I don't really consider Dunne a champ, it looks good for Dunne that he beat a man in Cordoba who beat Caballero. Yes, all very complicated, but in many ways lots of intrigue and possibilities.

TerribleTerry wrote:3 knockdowns in the 11th give Dunne the WBA strap.

Great win for the Dublin man. Cordoba was tough, talented and I thought at the end of the 10th he might pull away from Dunne with his raking body attackes but Dunne sucked it up and brought the title home..

Even Frank Maloney would have to admit that was a fantastic performance from Dunne - he fought like a man possessed!

What a great day for Irish sport

HAVE TO AGREE with you a great great performance i take my hat of to Dunne and Peters for having the balls to make the fight. Also would like to say it was a great day to be in Dublin what with the rugby and Dunnes win.

FtmPress wrote:

TerribleTerry wrote:3 knockdowns in the 11th give Dunne the WBA strap.

Great win for the Dublin man. Cordoba was tough, talented and I thought at the end of the 10th he might pull away from Dunne with his raking body attackes but Dunne sucked it up and brought the title home..

Even Frank Maloney would have to admit that was a fantastic performance from Dunne - he fought like a man possessed!

What a great day for Irish sport

HAVE TO AGREE with you a great great performance i take my hat of to Dunne and Peters for having the balls to make the fight. Also would like to say it was a great day to be in Dublin what with the rugby and Dunnes win.

Cool, I take it then that Dunne-Munroe is imminent 8)

FtmPress wrote:

TerribleTerry wrote:3 knockdowns in the 11th give Dunne the WBA strap.

Great win for the Dublin man. Cordoba was tough, talented and I thought at the end of the 10th he might pull away from Dunne with his raking body attackes but Dunne sucked it up and brought the title home..

Even Frank Maloney would have to admit that was a fantastic performance from Dunne - he fought like a man possessed!

What a great day for Irish sport

HAVE TO AGREE with you a great great performance i take my hat of to Dunne and Peters for having the balls to make the fight. Also would like to say it was a great day to be in Dublin what with the rugby and Dunnes win.

I don't want to sound like a prick, but I hope the humble pie is tasting nice

Last fight of his career.........................

DG. wrote:No dissing Frank Maloney.....

Personally I think Frank cares for his fighters, you only have to see his face and hear the emotion in his voice when hs fighter wins/loses.

Keep up the good work, Frank.

Ps, Fwank Warren might be the biggest promoter in the UK/Europe but in my book he serves up too much rubbish and fully warrants the FWANK title.

PS, also ask him why he clapped when Enzo Macc was hurt in the 3rd round againt Alo Afffllalallalalaalalabbiii!

PPS..Dunne getting MASHED tonight!

Your predictions are getting no better, I see DD

FtmPress wrote:

TerribleTerry wrote:3 knockdowns in the 11th give Dunne the WBA strap.

Great win for the Dublin man. Cordoba was tough, talented and I thought at the end of the 10th he might pull away from Dunne with his raking body attackes but Dunne sucked it up and brought the title home..

Even Frank Maloney would have to admit that was a fantastic performance from Dunne - he fought like a man possessed!

What a great day for Irish sport

HAVE TO AGREE with you a great great performance i take my hat of to Dunne and Peters for having the balls to make the fight. Also would like to say it was a great day to be in Dublin what with the rugby and Dunnes win.

Fair play Frank