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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 10 Jul 2009, 22:33
by Randyman
Chuck1052 wrote:It is true that a lot of the boxing history books do not have too much about what took place in California boxing during the period from 1914 to about 2000. But it is a different story in regards to the period from the 1880s to about 2000, a time when many of the most important bouts took place in California and a staggering of the top boxers were Californians or had quite a few bouts in the state.

Boxing was illegal or severely restricted in most of the United States from the 1880s to 1914, which meant that California was an important boxing state at the time largely by default. This is despite the fact that California had a relatively small population at the time.

- Chuck Johsnton
Chuck, I appreciate your succinct but always historical perspective on boxing, especially when it comes to California.

Today I finally got around to ordering two Boxing in the Los Angeles Area 1880-2005. I'm really looking forward to reading it. (the check's in the mail)

Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 10 Jul 2009, 23:06
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:
Chuck1052 wrote:It is true that a lot of the boxing history books do not have too much about what took place in California boxing during the period from 1914 to about 2000. But it is a different story in regards to the period from the 1880s to about 2000, a time when many of the most important bouts took place in California and a staggering of the top boxers were Californians or had quite a few bouts in the state.

Boxing was illegal or severely restricted in most of the United States from the 1880s to 1914, which meant that California was an important boxing state at the time largely by default. This is despite the fact that California had a relatively small population at the time.

- Chuck Johsnton
Chuck, I appreciate your succinct but always historical perspective on boxing, especially when it comes to California.

Today I finally got around to ordering two Boxing in the Los Angeles Area 1880-2005. I'm really looking forward to reading it. (the check's in the mail)

Randy
Randy, check the Baltazar's on page 139, I think its 139, on the book.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 10 Jul 2009, 23:18
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Had lunch with a new friend, Rene Ramirez, know him from the CBZ, hopefully he'll join us here at the West Coast thread, Rene is a nice guy and knows his boxing, he and his wife will also be sitting at one of my tables at the CBHOF luncheon, so guys when he shows up welcome him with open arms... :TU:
Count on it Frank. Looking forward to meeting him. :TU:

Randy
Thanks Randy, I met Rene face to face for the first time today, we had talk on the phone a few times, I found Rene to be a nice person, the kind that I think would fit right in here with us, now its up to him if he want to join us.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 10 Jul 2009, 23:20
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
Chuck1052 wrote:It is true that a lot of the boxing history books do not have too much about what took place in California boxing during the period from 1914 to about 2000. But it is a different story in regards to the period from the 1880s to about 2000, a time when many of the most important bouts took place in California and a staggering of the top boxers were Californians or had quite a few bouts in the state.

Boxing was illegal or severely restricted in most of the United States from the 1880s to 1914, which meant that California was an important boxing state at the time largely by default. This is despite the fact that California had a relatively small population at the time.

- Chuck Johsnton
Chuck, I appreciate your succinct but always historical perspective on boxing, especially when it comes to California.

Today I finally got around to ordering two Boxing in the Los Angeles Area 1880-2005. I'm really looking forward to reading it. (the check's in the mail)

Randy
Randy, check the Baltazar's on page 139, I think its 139, on the book.
You know I will!!

Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 10 Jul 2009, 23:32
by Randyman
Man, I love this song. It's funny but it is so true. It happens in my house too. All in good fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr22czd6mFY

Randy :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 10 Jul 2009, 23:39
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:Man, I love this song. It's funny but it is so true. It happens in my house too. All in good fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr22czd6mFY

Randy :lol:
Funny song Randy, never heard it before.... :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 10 Jul 2009, 23:44
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:Man, I love this song. It's funny but it is so true. It happens in my house too. All in good fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr22czd6mFY

Randy :lol:
Funny song Randy, never heard it before.... :lol:
Frank, the original was by Lalo Guerrero. The funny thing about it is that it is so true. I don't know how many times I've said to Jeri "Hey, where's my tortillas?" and she has answered back word for word, just like the song " There's no tortillas, there's only bread!" Only in a Chicano household! :lol:

Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 10 Jul 2009, 23:45
by kikibalt
Its late for this old man, so nite, nite.... :witzend: :box:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 10 Jul 2009, 23:45
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:Its late for this old man, so nite, nite.... :witzend: :box:
Me too. Good night.

Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 10 Jul 2009, 23:52
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:Man, I love this song. It's funny but it is so true. It happens in my house too. All in good fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr22czd6mFY

Randy :lol:
Funny song Randy, never heard it before.... :lol:
Frank, the original was by Lalo Guerrero. The funny thing about it is that it is so true. I don't know how many times I've said to Jeri "Hey, where's my tortillas?" and she has answered back word for word, just like the song " There's no tortillas, there's only bread!" Only in a Chicano household! :lol:

Randy
Randy, Connie used to make me tortillas every day for years then she stopped, I'll tell you the story later, tomorrow.

Guerrero had a nite club about 3 blocks from my house when I used to live in E.L.A. in the early 1960s, you know where I spent my free time... :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 00:29
by The real deal
kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Had lunch with a new friend, Rene Ramirez, know him from the CBZ, hopefully he'll join us here at the West Coast thread, Rene is a nice guy and knows his boxing, he and his wife will also be sitting at one of my tables at the CBHOF luncheon, so guys when he shows up welcome him with open arms... :TU:
Count on it Frank. Looking forward to meeting him. :TU:

Randy
Thanks Randy, I met Rene face to face for the first time today, we had talk on the phone a few times, I found Rene to be a nice person, the kind that I think would fit right in here with us, now its up to him if he want to join us.
Hello everyone!

first off, I have to say that Frank B. is class act all the way. We had roughly a 3 hour lunch today that seemed like it only lasted 20mins. I was in boxing heaven today as I heard stories about frank and his days a trainer. The time seemed to fly by. It was a true pleasure spending time with the man. Thanks Frank!

Well...I looking forward to spending time here posting with all of you. Frank told me that it was a great atmosphere over here and that you all are a great bunch of guys. Thanks again for inviting me here Frank, and I look forward to posting with all of you for a long time to come.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 03:55
by bennie
kikibalt wrote:Image
Vazquez was a 'gimmee' challenger for Watt but not every opponent can be a big one. Watt ground him down in seven or eight rounds. I've been to the Kelvin Hall a few times (flying from Birmingham) and it's a grand old venue. You guys would like it.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 04:05
by bennie
A hearty welcome, Rene, from across the water in the UK. It's raining here but we did have a hot spell a week or so ago (well, a sticky spell without an ounce of a breeze).
I tend to prefer the rain.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 09:32
by dagosd2000
THE RINGING OF THE BELL

In the oldest quarter of the oldest city in Europe life s oldest profession is to be found. Beneath the cathedral in Cadiz,hidden from the tourists,the girls stand in dark corners smoking cigarrettes looking away from the glances. If interested,approach.The bodegas are open till the chirping of the birds signals the meseros to close the doors. The girls go to sleep as the sun starts to rise above the bahia.People begin to go to work. There s movement in the streets. The women sweep in front of the shops. The sanitation workers hose off the sidewalks.The church bell of the big cathedral rings.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 09:35
by kikibalt
The real deal wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Had lunch with a new friend, Rene Ramirez, know him from the CBZ, hopefully he'll join us here at the West Coast thread, Rene is a nice guy and knows his boxing, he and his wife will also be sitting at one of my tables at the CBHOF luncheon, so guys when he shows up welcome him with open arms... :TU:
Count on it Frank. Looking forward to meeting him. :TU:

Randy
Thanks Randy, I met Rene face to face for the first time today, we had talk on the phone a few times, I found Rene to be a nice person, the kind that I think would fit right in here with us, now its up to him if he want to join us.
Hello everyone!

first off, I have to say that Frank B. is class act all the way. We had roughly a 3 hour lunch today that seemed like it only lasted 20mins. I was in boxing heaven today as I heard stories about frank and his days a trainer. The time seemed to fly by. It was a true pleasure spending time with the man. Thanks Frank!

Well...I looking forward to spending time here posting with all of you. Frank told me that it was a great atmosphere over here and that you all are a great bunch of guys. Thanks again for inviting me here Frank, and I look forward to posting with all of you for a long time to come.
Welcome Rene, the guys here are great, hope you'll fine a home here like I did, just watch out for uncle John.... :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 09:37
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:THE RINGING OF THE BELL

In the oldest quarter of the oldest city in Europe life s oldest profession is to be found. Beneath the cathedral in Cadiz,hidden from the tourists,the girls stand in dark corners smoking cigarrettes looking away from the glances. If interested,approach.The bodegas are open till the chirping of the birds signals the meseros to close the doors. The girls go to sleep as the sun starts to rise above the bahia.People begin to go to work. There s movement in the streets. The women sweep in front of the shops. The sanitation workers hose off the sidewalks.The church bell of the big cathedral rings.
Roger, what were you doing in the oldest quarter of the city?..... :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 11:13
by bennie
Former world bantamweight champion Johnny Caldwell of Belfast has passed away, aged 71. Johnny took on the great Eder Jofre, of course.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 11:27
by kikibalt
bennie wrote:Former world bantamweight champion Johnny Caldwell of Belfast has passed away, aged 71. Johnny took on the great Eder Jofre, of course.
Bennie, sorry to hear of Johnny Caldwell death, my condolensces to Caldwell family and friends.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 11:55
by Rick Farris
Hello everyone!

first off, I have to say that Frank B. is class act all the way. We had roughly a 3 hour lunch today that seemed like it only lasted 20mins. I was in boxing heaven today as I heard stories about frank and his days a trainer. The time seemed to fly by. It was a true pleasure spending time with the man. Thanks Frank!

Well...I looking forward to spending time here posting with all of you. Frank told me that it was a great atmosphere over here and that you all are a great bunch of guys. Thanks again for inviting me here Frank, and I look forward to posting with all of you for a long time to come.[/quote]
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, Rene. This is a great thread, and I look forward to your joining us.

-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 11:56
by Randyman
The real deal wrote:
Hello everyone!

first off, I have to say that Frank B. is class act all the way. We had roughly a 3 hour lunch today that seemed like it only lasted 20mins. I was in boxing heaven today as I heard stories about frank and his days a trainer. The time seemed to fly by. It was a true pleasure spending time with the man. Thanks Frank!

Well...I looking forward to spending time here posting with all of you. Frank told me that it was a great atmosphere over here and that you all are a great bunch of guys. Thanks again for inviting me here Frank, and I look forward to posting with all of you for a long time to come.
Welcome to this thread Rene, you won't find a better group of guys. Being on this thread is an education. I'm looking forward to reading your posts.

Randy :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 11:56
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Former world bantamweight champion Johnny Caldwell of Belfast has passed away, aged 71. Johnny took on the great Eder Jofre, of course.
Bennie, sorry to hear of Johnny Caldwell death, my condolensces to Caldwell family and friends.
I remember Johnny Calwell. Rest in Peace, Champion.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 11:58
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Former world bantamweight champion Johnny Caldwell of Belfast has passed away, aged 71. Johnny took on the great Eder Jofre, of course.
Bennie, sorry to hear of Johnny Caldwell death, my condolensces to Caldwell family and friends.
Same here Bennie, sorry about the bad news. It's been a tough year. My condolences to family and friends.
Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 12:00
by Randyman
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:THE RINGING OF THE BELL

In the oldest quarter of the oldest city in Europe life s oldest profession is to be found. Beneath the cathedral in Cadiz,hidden from the tourists,the girls stand in dark corners smoking cigarrettes looking away from the glances. If interested,approach.The bodegas are open till the chirping of the birds signals the meseros to close the doors. The girls go to sleep as the sun starts to rise above the bahia.People begin to go to work. There s movement in the streets. The women sweep in front of the shops. The sanitation workers hose off the sidewalks.The church bell of the big cathedral rings.
Roger, what were you doing in the oldest quarter of the city?..... :lol:
.....I think we all know the answer to that! :lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 12:09
by kikibalt
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:THE RINGING OF THE BELL

In the oldest quarter of the oldest city in Europe life s oldest profession is to be found. Beneath the cathedral in Cadiz,hidden from the tourists,the girls stand in dark corners smoking cigarrettes looking away from the glances. If interested,approach.The bodegas are open till the chirping of the birds signals the meseros to close the doors. The girls go to sleep as the sun starts to rise above the bahia.People begin to go to work. There s movement in the streets. The women sweep in front of the shops. The sanitation workers hose off the sidewalks.The church bell of the big cathedral rings.
Roger, what were you doing in the oldest quarter of the city?..... :lol:
.....I think we all know the answer to that! :lol:
Same ol' Roger, Randy

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 11 Jul 2009, 12:22
by Rick Farris
dagosd2000 wrote:THE RINGING OF THE BELL

In the oldest quarter of the oldest city in Europe life s oldest profession is to be found. Beneath the cathedral in Cadiz,hidden from the tourists,the girls stand in dark corners smoking cigarrettes looking away from the glances. If interested,approach.The bodegas are open till the chirping of the birds signals the meseros to close the doors. The girls go to sleep as the sun starts to rise above the bahia.People begin to go to work. There s movement in the streets. The women sweep in front of the shops. The sanitation workers hose off the sidewalks.The church bell of the big cathedral rings.
He'll Be Back . . .

Reading the above pulled me across the map for a moment, to a place I've never visited in person, but I was there for a few moments this morning.
Thanks for the short vacation, Rog. We look forward to your return this week.
It's odd, but when you, or Randy, or Pug, or whoever is away for awhile, we feel the void.
It's like when one of the kids are at summer camp.

You'll be back this week. We look forward to hearing about the trip, and Amanda's Flamenco, etc.
Monica wants to shoe me Barcelona. She enjoys different languages, and speaks several.
She tells me she loves Spain because in different regions they mix-languages. In Galicia they combine Spanish with Portugese.
She tells me in Cataluna, they combine Spanish & French.


-Rick Farris