Classic American West Coast Boxing

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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Man, I love this song. It's funny but it is so true. It happens in my house too. All in good fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr22czd6mFY

Randy :lol:
Funny song Randy, never heard it before.... :lol:
Frank, the original was by Lalo Guerrero. The funny thing about it is that it is so true. I don't know how many times I've said to Jeri "Hey, where's my tortillas?" and she has answered back word for word, just like the song " There's no tortillas, there's only bread!" Only in a Chicano household! :lol:

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Randy, Connie used to make me tortillas every day for years then she stopped, I'll tell you the story later, tomorrow.

Guerrero had a nite club about 3 blocks from my house when I used to live in E.L.A. in the early 1960s, you know where I spent my free time... :lol:
Randy, about the tortillas Connie used to make for me.

From the first day we go married, Connie used to make home made tortillas everyday, until my dad had a talk with her, he asked Connie.
"Connie, do you still make tortillas for KiKi everyday?
"Yes, other wise he won't eat"
"If he won't eat, he won't eat, tell him if he wants tortillas to go buy'em"
Connie took my dad's advice and stopped making tortillas, so now its all store bought tortillas for me.

Now, why would my dad ruin a good thing for me?.
My mom had stopped making tortillas for him, so when I asked him why he said that to Connie, he tells me.
"Mijo, if I can't have home tortillas, neither can you".... :witzend:

This all happened in the late 1970s.

Thats ok Pops, I still love you.... :bow:
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Just had huevo con chorizo... :bow: (Eggs with chorizo for you honkies) for breakfast, and you guess it, with store bought tortillas... :witzend:
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Hey guys, been awhile since I scribbled anything. Got back from the annual Canadian fishing trip earlier in the week and still catching up on things around the house and at work. We did outstanding up North and Pops was a trooper as usual, but it's getting a bit difficult for him up there. Regardless, we enjoyed ourselves, ate as much walleye as we could, drank as much Lablatt's Blue as I could and then back to reality. Just had to wlecome Rene onboard, you'll love it here, Rene and say what a bummer to hear of the passing of Alexis Arguello and Johnny Caldwell. Caldwell really had the deck stacked against him when he flew to Brazil to fight Jofre. There couldn't have been anyone outside Johnny's tight group that actually thought he could pull out a win, despie him holding a fraction of the title, but good luck to him, he gave it a go.

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I'm hearing that Arturo Gatti has died, I hope its not true... :witzend:

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kikibalt wrote:I'm hearing that Arturo Gatti has died, I hope its not true... :witzend:
He was found dead inside his beach-front flat in Brazil. There was a head injury, suspect foul play.


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Hi everyone,

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Frank, I have you beat. I had authentic breakfast burritos from Del Taco this morning. Top that! :DD


I also just read about Arturo Gatti. Very sad
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The real deal wrote:Hi everyone,

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Frank, I have you beat. I had authentic breakfast burritos from Del Taco this morning. Top that! :DD


I also just read about Arturo Gatti. Very sad
Del Taco!?, come on Rene, no self respecting Mexican eats at Del Taco.... :witzend: :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:
The real deal wrote:Hi everyone,

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Frank, I have you beat. I had authentic breakfast burritos from Del Taco this morning. Top that! :DD


I also just read about Arturo Gatti. Very sad
Del Taco!?, come on Rene, no self respecting Mexican eats at Del Taco.... :witzend: :lol:
LOL!!
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No self respecting Mexican drinks Jose Cuervo Tequila either.... :witzend:

My choice of Tequila is Patron, good stuff.... :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:No self respecting Maxican drinks Jose Cuervo Tequila either.... :witzend:

My choice of Tequila is Patron, good stuff.... :TU:
I concur! :TU:
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Arturo Gatti Killed!!
July 11, 2009 by James Allen

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Several boxing websites are reporting fan favorite Arturo Gatti has been found dead in a condo he was renting in Brazil. Apparently he was there with his wife and he spends time in the country. Rumors also suggest he may have had head trauma when found dead by his wife.

ESPN is reporting — Police in Brazil say former boxing champion Arturo Gatti has been found dead in a hotel room in the northeastern state of Pernambuco.

Police investigator Edislon Alves told The Associated Press that the body of the former junior welterweight champ was discovered Saturday morning in the posh seaside resort of Porto de Galinhas, where he arrived on Friday with his wife and 1-year-old son.

Alves said police were investigating. It was unclear how the 37-year-old Canadian died.

A spokeswoman for the public safety department said Gatti’s wife and son were unhurt.

“There were no bullet or stab wounds on his body, but police did find blood stains on the floor,” the spokeswoman said.

Gatti won the United States Boxing Association junior lightweight title and International Boxing Federation’s world junior lightweight title.

Gatti (40-9, 31 KOs) was best known for his all-action style, which was epitomized in his classic trilogy with Micky Ward in 2002 and 2003.

It’s why Gatti was a fixture at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., where he drew huge crowds and fought many times, including the final nine fights of his career.

In his first fight after the Ward trilogy — which Gatti won 2-1 — he captured a world title in his second division, outpointing Gianluca Branco for the vacant WBC junior welterweight title.

Gatti made two defenses before losing it to Floyd Mayweather Jr. via sixth-round TKO in June 2005. He returned to defeat Thomas Damgaard but lost his final two bouts, a ninth-round TKO in a challenge to then-welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir in July 2006 followed by a one-sided beating from former “Contender” star Alfonso Gomez in July 2007.

In the dressing room following the seventh-round knockout loss to Gomez, Gatti announced his retirement.

He had been working in real estate in Montreal following his retirement, but still attended fights, as he did in April for the Timothy Bradley-Kendall Holt junior welterweight unification bout at the Bell Centre in Montreal.

ESPN.com boxing writer Dan Rafael and The Associated Press contributed to this report
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The real deal wrote:
kikibalt wrote:No self respecting Maxican drinks Jose Cuervo Tequila either.... :witzend:

My choice of Tequila is Patron, good stuff.... :TU:
I concur! :TU:
You have good taste on Tequila....but Del Taco?.... :roll: :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:
The real deal wrote:
kikibalt wrote:No self respecting Maxican drinks Jose Cuervo Tequila either.... :witzend:

My choice of Tequila is Patron, good stuff.... :TU:
I concur! :TU:
You have good taste on Tequila....but Del Taco?.... :roll: :lol:
I'm working on it.
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I'm sure you will work it out, Rene.... :TU:
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OSCAR ” SHOTGUN ” ALBARADO
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He was a hard banger and a crowd pleaser that battled some of the best welterweights of his era. Eventually he would move up to 154 pounds and win a world title in that division. He thrilled crowds in his home state of Texas and would also become a popular draw on the West Coast. His name was Oscar Albarado and they called him ” Shotgun “.

Born in 1948, Oscar turned professional in 1966 and reeled off 25 straight victories. He suffered his first loss via a decision to the highly touted Hedgemon Lewis in 1969. He came back in 1970 with two wins over Youngstown, Ohio veteran L.C.Morgan. Oscar would then drop verdicts to rated contenders Adolph Pruitt and ” Have Mercy Mr. Percy ” Pugh.

Albarado bounced back with five straight wins including a decision over rugged Raul Soriano. He was then upset over ten rounds by Manuel Fierro. In May of 1971 Oscar met then undefeated Armando Muniz and the two battled to a draw in an action packed bout. Oscar would then lose a decision to top contender Ernie ” Red ” Lopez. Albarado would win seven in a row but in 1973 he was surprised in one round by Dino Del Cid. Oscar came right back to stop Del Cid in the second round of a rematch.

In June of 1974 Oscar traveled to Tokyo, Japan take on world junior middleweight king Koichi Wajima. In a tough battle Albarado rallied to halt Wajima at 1:57 of the fifteenth round to capture the crown. Oscar would return to Japan to defend against Wajima’s countryman Ryu Sorimachi. Albarado retained his title with a seventh round stoppage. It was back to Tokyo again to face Wajima in a rematch. This time Wajima paced himself and fought a smart fight in regaining his title by decision. There would be no rubber match.

It would be over five years before Oscar boxed again and it was obvious he was no longer the same fighter. He did find himself matched with some pretty good fighters though. In 1981 Bobby Czyz and Bernard “Superbad” Mays kayoed him. In 1982 Louis Arcaries and John Collins took him out. Finally Ayub Kalule stopped him in two rounds in his last fight.

Albarado ended his 72-fight career with a record of 58-13-1. He scored 43 knockouts. He was stopped seven times but six of those stoppages came after his five-year layoff. In his prime he was a game and durable fighter with a lethal punch.
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kikibalt wrote:
The real deal wrote:Hi everyone,

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Frank, I have you beat. I had authentic breakfast burritos from Del Taco this morning. Top that! :DD


I also just read about Arturo Gatti. Very sad
Del Taco!?, come on Rene, no self respecting Mexican eats at Del Taco.... :witzend: :lol:
Maybe no self-respecting Mexican eat at a Del Taco, but every self-respecting Swede eats at Taco Bell. :TU: :TU: Welcome to the board, Rene, from a Missouri Swede.
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Arturo Gatti, former boxing champion, found dead in hotel

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Kirk McKoy / Los Angeles Times

Artuto Gatti, a Canadian who became an adopted son of New Jersey while fighting out of Atlantic City, won his first title in 1995.
One of the most exciting fighters of his generation was 37 years old. Police says it's unclear how he died.

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July 11, 2009
SAO PAULO -- Former boxing champion Arturo Gatti, whose epic trilogy with Micky Ward branded him one of the most exciting fighters of his generation, was found dead in a hotel room in the posh seaside resort of Porto de Galihnas early Saturday.

Police investigator Edilson Alves told the Associated Press that the body of the former junior welterweight champ was discovered in his room at the tourist resort, where Gatti had arrived on Friday with his Brazilian wife Amanda and 1-year-old son.

Alves said police were investigating and it was unclear how the 37-year-old Canadian died.

"It is still too early to say anything concrete, although it is all very strange," Alves said. He declined to provide any additional details.

A spokeswoman for the state public safety department said Gatti's wife and son were unhurt. The woman declined to give a name in keeping with department policy.

"There were no bullet or stab wounds on his body, but police did find blood stains on the floor," she said.

Brazilian boxer and four-time world champion Acelino "Popo" Freitas told the G1 website of Brazil's largest TV network Globo that he was a close friend of Gatti and his wife, and that he "knew they were having some sort of problem and were about to separate."

Known for his straightforward punching and granite-like chin, Gatti captured the junior welterweight title in 1995, when he defeated Tracy Harris Patterson in Atlantic City, N.J. His brawling style and natural charisma made him a fan favorite, and he became one of New Jersey's adopted sons while fighting some of his most memorable battles on the Boardwalk.

"I never saw a crowd show so much love for someone like the way that the crowds flocked to Arturo's fights in Atlantic City," said referee Randy Neumann, who officiated Gatti's last fight against Alfonso Gomez two years ago. "I mean, they were so into him and the crowds were electric. He just fought his heart out every fight."

Gatti continued to keep a home in New Jersey after he retired in 2007, with a career record of 40-9 and 31 knockouts.

"His entire boxing career he fought with us, we've known him since he was 17," Kathy Duva of promoter Main Events told The Associated Press. "It's just an unspeakable tragedy. I can't even find words. It's a horror."

Gatti defended his title three times before moving up in weight and getting stopped by Angel Manfredy in 1997. He lost twice more before running off four straight wins, setting up a big payday against Oscar De La Hoya.

Although Gatti was knocked out in the fifth round of a lopsided fight, his almost cult-like following never wavered in its support.

"He just captured the imagination of so many people," Duva said. "We used to joke it was a crowd like the Grateful Dead's, it was the same people every time."

Gatti would later lose to big names like Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Carlos Baldomir, but it was his three-fight series against Ward that left an indelible impression on fight fans.

The first time they met, in May 2002, the 140-pounders traded devastating blows for 10 rounds before leaving it up to the judges to decide a winner. Ward earned the mixed decision, by one point on one scorecard and two points on another, in what Ring Magazine called "Fight of the Year."

The rematch was just as brutal, with Gatti knocking Ward down in the third round with a big right. Ward not only recovered from the blow, which broke Gatti's hand, but managed to go the distance. This time, Gatti earned a clear unanimous decision.

Gatti and Ward had their rubber match at Boardwalk Hall in June 2003, and it was again called "Fight of the Year" by Ring Magazine. Ward knocked Gatti to the floor in the sixth round, but despite fighting with his right hand broken again, Gatti managed to win the decision.

"I was sitting him at the post-fight press conference -- I can't remember which one -- and I looked at his hand and it was three times the normal size," Duva said. "He gave me this goofy grin and he said, 'Yeah, I know. We'll party tonight and I'll go to the hospital tomorrow."'

Gatti attempted a comeback in July 2007, getting knocked out in seven rounds by Gomez. Afterward, with his legion of fans cheering for him in the arena, Gatti announced his retirement in the dressing room at Boardwalk Hall.

Neumann said it was tough for him to end that fight, simply because of Gatti's incredible ability to come back in fights.

"I couldn't stop that fight, simply because he was Arturo Gatti," Neumann said. "He was much more dignified to go out that way. He had to be counted out. When he fought, you never knew if he could come back. He looked beaten and still came back."

With that loss, Gatti acknowledged the end of all his travails and triumphs.

"I remember walking away from his last fight, and somebody walked up to him in the casino late at night and congratulated him," Duva said. "And he said, 'Why did he congratulate me?' And I said, 'He was excited to meet you.' And he kind of looked very surprised by that.

"He had no idea what an icon he was or how much he meant to people."
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raylawpc wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
The real deal wrote:Hi everyone,

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Frank, I have you beat. I had authentic breakfast burritos from Del Taco this morning. Top that! :DD


I also just read about Arturo Gatti. Very sad
Del Taco!?, come on Rene, no self respecting Mexican eats at Del Taco.... :witzend: :lol:
Maybe no self-respecting Mexican eat at a Del Taco, but every self-respecting Swede eats at Taco Bell. :TU: :TU: Welcome to the board, Rene, from a Missouri Swede.
Taco Bell works for me, English-Irish. :DD
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raylawpc wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
The real deal wrote:Hi everyone,

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Frank, I have you beat. I had authentic breakfast burritos from Del Taco this morning. Top that! :DD


I also just read about Arturo Gatti. Very sad
Del Taco!?, come on Rene, no self respecting Mexican eats at Del Taco.... :witzend: :lol:
Maybe no self-respecting Mexican eat at a Del Taco, but every self-respecting Swede eats at Taco Bell. :TU: :TU: Welcome to the board, Rene, from a Missouri Swede.
Tom, when you come out to the coast, I'm going to take you to eat some real home made Mexican food in E. L.A, after that you won't want to eat at Del Taco.... :TU:
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Regarding Gatti:

This is just so sad, Gatti was only 37 and had a baby who probably has just been taking first steps. Arturo had great heart and seemingly just a great person. I'm thinkin about givin' up reading. Every day it's another case of the blues. And from the first reports this is going to have a gruesome side.

May god rest his soul and may his family somehow find peace in the wake of this heartbreaking tragedy.
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Rick Farris wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
The real deal wrote:Hi everyone,

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Frank, I have you beat. I had authentic breakfast burritos from Del Taco this morning. Top that! :DD


I also just read about Arturo Gatti. Very sad
Del Taco!?, come on Rene, no self respecting Mexican eats at Del Taco.... :witzend: :lol:

Maybe no self-respecting Mexican eat at a Del Taco, but every self-respecting Swede eats at Taco Bell. :TU: :TU: Welcome to the board, Rene, from a Missouri Swede.
Taco Bell works for me, English-Irish. :DD
I don't know what I'm going to do with you Gabachos... :witzend:
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Tom, when you come out to the coast, I'm going to take you to eat some real home made Mexican food in E. L.A, after that you won't want to eat at Del Taco.... :TU:
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Frank . . .

Pug also wants real Mexican food when he comes to L.A.
When it comes to Mexican Cuisine, I defer to you & Randy.
Maybe Brian needs a little dose of ELA?

If left to me, he's going to El Cholo, where I take everybody else. What do you expect from a Gabacho? :DDD
So we need your guidance here.


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I like good Mexican food. Of course, I like good ANY food.
Ive always heard there was great Mexican food in L.A. There are some places here in Chicago that have it, but lately there seems to be a trend to want to "dress it up". Make it too fancy or something.
My wife and I went to this little place recently and it wasnt the same. We used to like the good solid basics. Now its song and dance.
One thing though, I like fried ice cream.They have that out there? Somebody at the Mexican resteraunt by my house here said it was a mexican dessert. Maybe it isnt authentic. I dont know . Im just a cement headed Irishman. :D
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It was shocking to hear about Arturo Gatti. Gatti was a warrior in anyone's book. His fights with both Micky Ward and Ivan Robinson were fight of the year stuff. He was only 37. My condolences to his wife and child and to the rest of his family and friends. Rest in peace Champ!

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Expug wrote:I like good Mexican food. Of course, I like good ANY food.
Ive always heard there was great Mexican food in L.A. There are some places here in Chicago that have it, but lately there seems to be a trend to want to "dress it up". Make it too fancy or something.
My wife and I went to this little place recently and it wasnt the same. We used to like the good solid basics. Now its song and dance.
One thing though, I like fried ice cream.They have that out there? Somebody at the Mexican resteraunt by my house here said it was a mexican dessert. Maybe it isnt authentic. I dont know . Im just a cement headed Irishman. :D
Fried Ice Cream? I've heard of it but have never had it. I don't think it's Mexican but I could be wrong.

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