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Posted: **15 Oct 2010, 03:47**

Goodnight, Irene wrote:^^^Any contract stipulation which puts Valuev's life at stake suits me down to the ground

I wouldn't wish death on him but say he was rendered incapable of boxing for all eternity, I'd be ok with such an outcome. As for the Ali - Robinson matchup, let's say Ali would be forced to come in at 500lbs and Robinson at 100lbs, the plot thickens..

Posted: **15 Oct 2010, 10:19**

I'd willingly watch Valuev every weekend if Dirrell never fights again. Truth be told, I can't bother to watch any Heavyweights. With Haye & Holyfield being the notable exceptions. I wouldn't dare watch a second of vitali sissy slapping Briggs until he is so tired he can't lift his arms anymore.

Posted: **15 Oct 2010, 10:27**

Jaywheel wrote:Davey Hilton jr. (1985) vs Andre Berto (2008)

Posted: **15 Oct 2010, 11:25**

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'd willingly watch Valuev every weekend if Dirrell never fights again. Truth be told, I can't bother to watch any Heavyweights. With Haye & Holyfield being the notable exceptions. I wouldn't dare watch a second of vitali sissy slapping Briggs until he is so tired he can't lift his arms anymore.

You would truly still watch Holyfield fight?

Posted: **15 Oct 2010, 16:34**

He is my second favorite fighter of all time. I can't help myself. When matched properly his fights are still entertaining. As long as his opponent can't move.

Posted: **15 Oct 2010, 20:44**

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He is my second favorite fighter of all time. I can't help myself. When matched properly his fights are still entertaining. As long as his opponent can't move.

Fair play.

I must say I haven't really watched him since about 2003. I think it was James Toney who convinced me this guy was all done.

Posted: **17 Oct 2010, 18:39**

NEXT:

Margarito vs. Hearns at 147

Posted: **17 Oct 2010, 22:15**

Hearns in less than 3 rounds. That speed combined with that punching power has the very easy to hit Margarito tasting canvas early and often.

Staying at welterweight, Hearns and Pernell Whitaker cross paths...

Posted: **18 Oct 2010, 04:04**

Gotta go with Hearns on points. Hearns is going to land some heavy shots at some point and that would slow Pernell down.

Next:

Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye

Posted: **18 Oct 2010, 04:13**

keithmoonhangover wrote:Gotta go with Hearns on points. Hearns is going to land some heavy shots at some point and that would slow Pernell down.

Next:

Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye

I win by not watching. Haye succeeds in the fight itself.

Joel Casamayor vs...

Danny Lopez
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Naseem Hamed
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao

All at 130...

Posted: **20 Oct 2010, 18:31**

Goodnight, Irene wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Gotta go with Hearns on points. Hearns is going to land some heavy shots at some point and that would slow Pernell down.

Next:

Alexander Povetkin vs David Haye
I win by not watching. Haye succeeds in the fight itself.

Joel Casamayor vs...

Danny Lopez
Erik Morales
Marco Antonio Barrera
Naseem Hamed
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao

All at 130...

Thats a lot of fights(good one's though)! Maybe people have been letting this thread wait until someone else took care of it. Here we go...

Casa>Lopez KO
Morales>Casa DE
Barrera>Casa DE
Casa>Hamed DE
Mayweather>Casa DE
Pacman>Casa KO

Pacquiao comes off his W to challenge Pernell Whitaker @ 135...

Posted: **20 Oct 2010, 19:50**

...& it's a horrible match-making mistake on Roach's part. This was Whitaker's best weight, & he's stylistically horrible for Pacquiao. There are some fireworks & exchanges early, but the virtually KO-proof Whitaker of his pomp sweeps the back-half of the fight, for an 8-3-1 verdict.

Jack Sharkey & Max Baer...

Posted: **21 Oct 2010, 03:58**

Goodnight, Irene wrote:...& it's a horrible match-making mistake on Roach's part. This was Whitaker's best weight, & he's stylistically horrible for Pacquiao. There are some fireworks & exchanges early, but the virtually KO-proof Whitaker of his pomp sweeps the back-half of the fight, for an 8-3-1 verdict.

Jack Sharkey & Max Baer...

I agree with you Irene.
But if it was the 80's Pacquiao would have been promoted by Don King, Richard Steele would be the referee and the judges would be paid. Therefore, Manny by decision.

Posted: **21 Oct 2010, 09:27**

Assuming his head was there, Max by mid round KO while down on the cards.

Frankie Liles vs Lucian Bute

Posted: **25 Oct 2010, 16:38**

Bute with a stoppage win with his superior handspeed and body punching grinds down Liles to stop him.

Next up.

Floyd Mayweather v Julio Cesar Chavez Sr 12 rounds Light Welter

Posted: **25 Oct 2010, 19:16**

Chavez at his best at 140 has just enough closing speed and stamina to grind down Mayweather into the corners. Floyd's potshotting would score him a lot of points but Chavez' activity and body work would win him a very close and possibly controversial decision.

Chavez by razor-thin decision.

Roberto Duran vs. Bernard Hopkins at 160

Posted: **25 Oct 2010, 22:51**

Tough, but Mayweather by DE
They were both great at 135. Mayweather would be wiser than Leonard and not square up with Duran. He might be shocked early and have to make some adjustments and Roger would say "Box this MuthaF*cka!" but soon enough he would be giving his favorite advise "Keep doing what you're doing!" Great foot work is the enemy of Duran and Mayweather would use it if he's smart. Mayweather was no light puncher at 135 either, not that he would be going for the KO.
Sonny Liston vs Ray Mercer

Posted: **26 Oct 2010, 00:29**

chucktaylor wrote:Tough, but Mayweather by DE
They were both great at 135. Mayweather would be wiser than Leonard and not square up with Duran. He might be shocked early and have to make some adjustments and Roger would say "Box this MuthaF*cka!" but soon enough he would be giving his favorite advise "Keep doing what you're doing!" Great foot work is the enemy of Duran and Mayweather would use it if he's smart. Mayweather was no light puncher at 135 either, not that he would be going for the KO.
Sonny Liston vs Ray Mercer

Liston clobbers Mercer at range with the jab, & comes on with lefts & rights to either score a convincing TKO, or win wide on points. He just about did everything better than Mercer. Only question would be whether Mercer's iron-jaw would survive Liston's devastating payload. My vote is no, but he'd have a decent chance. Can't see how he'd win the fight, though.

Sandy Saddler vs. Diego Corrales at 135...

Posted: **26 Oct 2010, 00:34**

Ouch, Saddler bounces Corrales off the canvas like a Basketball. After the fifth knockdown chico spits out his mouthpiece and Sandy kicks it out of the ring and then punts Diego's head getting dq'd.

Sorry, my rage for mouthpiece gate will never dissipate. Saddler TKo4 with a bunch of KD's, don't see it being competitive.

Lets go with a couple of great Lightweights against very good Welterweights.

Ike Williams vs Marlon Starling
Benny Leonard vs Carlos Palomino

Posted: **26 Oct 2010, 08:53**

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Lets go with a couple of great Lightweights against very good Welterweights.

Ike Williams vs Marlon Starling
Benny Leonard vs Carlos Palomino

Starling a touch too concerned with defence to beat Williams, who has to survive a flash knockdown on the way to a close, disputed but deserved decision.

Leonard, I'd like to think, would stand Palomino on his head, but if it was the pudgy 35 yr. old post-comeback version he gets battered in about seven or eight rounds.

Oooh, my turn.

Uh... What If? welterweights...

Jose Luis Lopez vs. Felix Trinidad

backed up with Maurice Blocker (Simon Brown fight vintage) vs Ike Quartey

Posted: **26 Oct 2010, 09:01**

Lopez stins and floors Trinidad twice in the early rounds, before Tito has got his balance sorted. Tito gradually comes back into in the patented fashion, Lopez starts looking like he'd rather be on some beach in flipflops smoking weed, and capitulates on his stool after the 9th or 10th

Brown eventually outworks Quartey after falling behind early, letting Ike get into his rythmn with the jab. he begins figuring the puzzle out, negating the jab with just enough lateral movement, to take control winning 3 of the last 4 rounds, and taking a tight 7-5 decision.

next up:

Crimson alert.

Paul Briggs - Jeff Harding at 175. do you like the Aussie with the punch or the Aussie with the chin, here?

Posted: **26 Oct 2010, 09:06**

Harding grinds down Briggs in ten-eleven rounds, slowly overwhelming Paul with steady pressure & an incessant body attack between Briggs' occasional right hand bombs. As the fight was fought at an Aussie rugby ground, rain slickers were handed out beforehand. The first four rows needed these, but only to keep the blood off.

Back atcha:-

Crimson Alert (UK edition):-

Ricky Hatton vs Terry Marsh, 12 rounds.

Posted: **26 Oct 2010, 09:18**

replay of the Eamon magee fight, ish. Marsh's Jim Watt-esque, fundamentally solid style does pretty well matched with Hatton, who has his considerable physical vigour to count against his essential hittability. he doesn't go down, but is now and then slightly flummoxed and frustrated by the stolid style of Marsh. heads come together, both men leaking claret, and Hatton's ability to push and muscle Marsh back against the ropes ultimately means more of the exchanges occur on Hatton's terms rather than Marsh's. judges at the MEN surprise everyone slightly with unanimous 8-4 scoring, while most onlookers think it was much closer than that.

ummm.

best version of Hasegawa vs best version of Nishioka at bantamweight.

Posted: **29 Oct 2010, 06:59**

Counter-puncher wrote:
best version of Hasegawa vs best version of Nishioka at bantamweight.

Fvck me, where's Autobarn when you need him?

Er.... No idea. Nishioka's quicker, Hasegawa's probably technically more sound, I'd give a tiny edge in power to Nishioka, but I think Hasegawa has a better chin (can't imagine Jhonny Gonzalez dropping Hozumi two or three times, & frankly the shot that Montiel broke Hasegawa's jaw with would put any fecker under nine stone in hospital)... TN has the better left cross; Hasegawa the better right hook.

So... Nishioka, hotly disputed split decision.

Yoko Gushiken vs Ricardo Lopez, twelve rounds...

Posted: **29 Oct 2010, 08:30**

Gushiken gives Lopez some pause and trouble early with his skillset and measured blend of offense and defense, but Ricardo quickly turns things in his favor by the 3rd when he realizes Yoko can't really hurt him and utilizes his size and speed advantages to potshot Gushiken as he charges forward. Lopez finally stops a tiring Gushiken in the 9th after throroughly battering him.

Continuing with the little guys, Michael Carbajal vs. Rosendo Alvarez

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