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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 10:06
by kikibalt
For Rick... :TU:

Image

This is the legendary El Monte Legion Stadium in El Monte, California. Photographed here in the early 1970s, just before it was razed. In the late '50s and up through the '60s it was the venue for Art Laboe's dances and shows. Top west coast performers and groups were featured. In the days preceding a show local radio would feature loud commercials trumpeting the event. "Hello, I'm Art Laboe" was the usual intro, followed by a recitation of the featured performers. Near the end listeners were admonished to "Be there, or be square". And finally there was this warning: "And remember, no khakis or capris please", a not so subtle reminder that gang attire was frowned on. This last bit was perfectly understandable as one has only to look at this picture to realize that EMLS was a really classy place!

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 11:00
by kikibalt
Johnny Otis Biography

Image

Born John Veliotes, December 28, 1921, in Vallejo, California, the son of Greek immigrants; married; wife's name, Phyllis; children: John, Jr. (Shuggie); Nicky; Daryl Jon; Janice; and Laura. Addresses: Office--7105 Baker Ln., Sebastopol, CA 95472.

Johnny Otis, son of Greek immigrants, grew up in an ethnically mixed neighborhood in Vallejo, California during the 1920s. Even before falling in love with the black musical traditions, Otis identified with the culture of his black childhood friends and came to think of himself as black. As he wrote in the preface to his 1968 book Listen to the Lambs--penned largely in reaction to the Watts riots of 1965--"I reacted to the way of life, the special vitality, the atmosphere of the black community. . . this difficult to describe quality. . . popularly known as 'soul.'"

Johnny Otis lived the life of soul at the center of black music for starting in the 1940s. In 1939, having quit high school, Otis heard Count Basie at the San Francisco World's Fair and became interested in music. After taking up the drums, Otis played boogie-woogie and blues with a local Berkeley band, gradually moving on to regional bands and playing throughout the west. By this time he had married a black woman named Phyllis Walker, a sweetheart since high school and in 1943, Otis organized a group named after himself and partner Preston Love, the Otis Love Band.

The Otis Love Band worked at a club in Nebraska for a while but Otis soon left to play drums for Harlan Leonard at Los Angeles' Club Alabam. By 1945, Otis formed his first big band (sixteen pieces) to serve as the club's house ensemble. Otis also worked as a studio drummer, making recordings with various artists including Lester Young and Charles Brown. In 1946 Otis had his first hit record with a version of Earle Hagen's "Harlem Nocturne." That same year Otis' big band toured the country with the Inkspots.

By the time Otis' band returned home in 1947, the hey-day of the big band had already passed while audiences rushed to listen to the blues. Otis, losing no time, trimmed down his crew to a smaller combo but kept the trombone, trumpet, and two saxes. "What you had was a small big band playing blues and that sound became R&B," Otis stated in an interview for the Encyclopedia of Pop, Rock & Soul. In 1948, Otis' band opened the Barrel House Club in the Watts section of Los Angeles. From the many black R&B acts at that club, Johnny Otis put together what eventually became known as "The Johnny Otis Show." This group, on the power of singers like Little Esther Phillips, Mel Walker, Devonia "Lady Dee" Williams and others, hit the R&B top forty charts an impressive 15 times between 1950 and 1952.

Otis' knowledge of R&B music, his connections and his popularity made him a natural promoter of the music he loved. Prompted by his desire to spend more time with his family, Otis quit touring in 1955. He became a Los Angeles disc jockey with an immensely popular radio show which led to a television show, and later started his own record label, Dig Records. He ran both the television and radio show out of an office building where, as George Lipsitz noted in an introduction to Otis' 1993 book Upside Your Head, Otis "continued to record hit records himself and to serve as a talent scout for other labels such as Don Robey's Peacock Records from Houston."

As the racial climate of the 1950s and the aversion to rock and roll began to merge in Los Angeles, rock and roll shows were eventually forced from the city by police pressure. The El Monte Legion Stadium, outside the city limits, became the site of a series for legendary rock and roll concerts by Otis and other performers. But in the overtly racist and frightened atmosphere of the times, this too proved intolerable to the powers that be; they revoked a stadium dance license granted to Otis' then partner Hal Zeiger, only relenting thanks to pressure from the ACLU and the NAACP.

At the same time attempts were made to crush the live performances, major labels recognized the profit potential and moved into the R&B arena. Otis succumbed to the money offered and signed with Capitol Records. There he recorded the song "Willie and the Hand Jive" in 1958, possibly the biggest hit of his career. Yet Otis professed to be generally unhappy with this move to Capitol, having abandoned his black roots in favor of making "contrived rock and roll shit" as he told Lipsitz. Other forces, namely that of the British rock invasion, spelled the end of the R&B era.

During the subsequent decade, Otis served his chosen community in non-musical ways. For ten years he acted as deputy chief of staff to a politician named Mervin Dymally. Dymally served in the California State legislature and eventually U.S. Congress. Otis also ministered, via his nondenominational Landmark Community Church, in south central Los Angeles. This church would remain active until the mid-1980s. In the late 1960s Otis, together with his guitar-playing son Johnny Jr. (called "Shuggie"), began making records again starting with Cold Shot. During the 1970s Otis also continued to produce, efforts of this time including albums of Louis Jordan and T-Bone Walker.

The late 1980s and early 1990s found Otis as active as ever: selling an organic line of fruit juice, making radio broadcasts, and painting and sculpting works that reflected his love of African American culture. Further, Otis continued to tour with a 13 person band whose attraction was no doubt in part nostalgic. A revival of interest in 1950s R&B prompted Capitol Records to reissue Otis' work for that label, and Arhoolie, a record company long-interested in preserving American music, put out Otis' Spirit of the Black Territory Bands in 1993. Through this album, listeners may get a sense of Otis' music during the 1940s and visit a vanished era.

by Joseph M. Reiner

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 11:07
by kikibalt
Johnny Otis, Marie Adams and the Three Tons of Joy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txz9ncZJMA4
"Goody Goody"

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 11:09
by kikibalt
The Three Tons of Joy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPcDIbKzGO4
"Ma he's making eyes at me"

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 11:17
by kikibalt
Big mama Thornton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y5SPFDMQ_I

In 1952 Big Mama Thornton recorded the original version of 'Hound Dog', made famous four years later by Elvis Presley. Elvis' version was very good but Big Mama's is great! Real soul, rhythm and blues at it's best.
Willie Mae 'Big Mama' Thornton also did the original version of 'Ball and Chain' made famous by Janis Joplin.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 11:19
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:Image
La Puente, Ca.
:lol:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 11:21
by kikibalt

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 11:50
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:Johnny Otis Biography

Image

Born John Veliotes, December 28, 1921, in Vallejo, California, the son of Greek immigrants; married; wife's name, Phyllis; children: John, Jr. (Shuggie); Nicky; Daryl Jon; Janice; and Laura. Addresses: Office--7105 Baker Ln., Sebastopol, CA 95472.

Johnny Otis, son of Greek immigrants, grew up in an ethnically mixed neighborhood in Vallejo, California during the 1920s. Even before falling in love with the black musical traditions, Otis identified with the culture of his black childhood friends and came to think of himself as black. As he wrote in the preface to his 1968 book Listen to the Lambs--penned largely in reaction to the Watts riots of 1965--"I reacted to the way of life, the special vitality, the atmosphere of the black community. . . this difficult to describe quality. . . popularly known as 'soul.'"

Johnny Otis lived the life of soul at the center of black music for starting in the 1940s. In 1939, having quit high school, Otis heard Count Basie at the San Francisco World's Fair and became interested in music. After taking up the drums, Otis played boogie-woogie and blues with a local Berkeley band, gradually moving on to regional bands and playing throughout the west. By this time he had married a black woman named Phyllis Walker, a sweetheart since high school and in 1943, Otis organized a group named after himself and partner Preston Love, the Otis Love Band.

The Otis Love Band worked at a club in Nebraska for a while but Otis soon left to play drums for Harlan Leonard at Los Angeles' Club Alabam. By 1945, Otis formed his first big band (sixteen pieces) to serve as the club's house ensemble. Otis also worked as a studio drummer, making recordings with various artists including Lester Young and Charles Brown. In 1946 Otis had his first hit record with a version of Earle Hagen's "Harlem Nocturne." That same year Otis' big band toured the country with the Inkspots.

By the time Otis' band returned home in 1947, the hey-day of the big band had already passed while audiences rushed to listen to the blues. Otis, losing no time, trimmed down his crew to a smaller combo but kept the trombone, trumpet, and two saxes. "What you had was a small big band playing blues and that sound became R&B," Otis stated in an interview for the Encyclopedia of Pop, Rock & Soul. In 1948, Otis' band opened the Barrel House Club in the Watts section of Los Angeles. From the many black R&B acts at that club, Johnny Otis put together what eventually became known as "The Johnny Otis Show." This group, on the power of singers like Little Esther Phillips, Mel Walker, Devonia "Lady Dee" Williams and others, hit the R&B top forty charts an impressive 15 times between 1950 and 1952.

Otis' knowledge of R&B music, his connections and his popularity made him a natural promoter of the music he loved. Prompted by his desire to spend more time with his family, Otis quit touring in 1955. He became a Los Angeles disc jockey with an immensely popular radio show which led to a television show, and later started his own record label, Dig Records. He ran both the television and radio show out of an office building where, as George Lipsitz noted in an introduction to Otis' 1993 book Upside Your Head, Otis "continued to record hit records himself and to serve as a talent scout for other labels such as Don Robey's Peacock Records from Houston."

As the racial climate of the 1950s and the aversion to rock and roll began to merge in Los Angeles, rock and roll shows were eventually forced from the city by police pressure. The El Monte Legion Stadium, outside the city limits, became the site of a series for legendary rock and roll concerts by Otis and other performers. But in the overtly racist and frightened atmosphere of the times, this too proved intolerable to the powers that be; they revoked a stadium dance license granted to Otis' then partner Hal Zeiger, only relenting thanks to pressure from the ACLU and the NAACP.

At the same time attempts were made to crush the live performances, major labels recognized the profit potential and moved into the R&B arena. Otis succumbed to the money offered and signed with Capitol Records. There he recorded the song "Willie and the Hand Jive" in 1958, possibly the biggest hit of his career. Yet Otis professed to be generally unhappy with this move to Capitol, having abandoned his black roots in favor of making "contrived rock and roll poop" as he told Lipsitz. Other forces, namely that of the British rock invasion, spelled the end of the R&B era.

During the subsequent decade, Otis served his chosen community in non-musical ways. For ten years he acted as deputy chief of staff to a politician named Mervin Dymally. Dymally served in the California State legislature and eventually U.S. Congress. Otis also ministered, via his nondenominational Landmark Community Church, in south central Los Angeles. This church would remain active until the mid-1980s. In the late 1960s Otis, together with his guitar-playing son Johnny Jr. (called "Shuggie"), began making records again starting with Cold Shot. During the 1970s Otis also continued to produce, efforts of this time including albums of Louis Jordan and T-Bone Walker.

The late 1980s and early 1990s found Otis as active as ever: selling an organic line of fruit juice, making radio broadcasts, and painting and sculpting works that reflected his love of African American culture. Further, Otis continued to tour with a 13 person band whose attraction was no doubt in part nostalgic. A revival of interest in 1950s R&B prompted Capitol Records to reissue Otis' work for that label, and Arhoolie, a record company long-interested in preserving American music, put out Otis' Spirit of the Black Territory Bands in 1993. Through this album, listeners may get a sense of Otis' music during the 1940s and visit a vanished era.

by Joseph M. Reiner

Frank
When I was a kid,I remember Johnny Otis taking his show down to San Diego to the El Cortez Hotel. I never got a chance to see him(something I regret),but the fellas' that went said he was terrific. Mal Walker and I think Little Esther was with him at that time. Also he had a tenor sax player who made a few recordings. There was also a skinny woman piano player. Their names escape me. Do you know?

I always thought Johnny Otis exemplified LA. blues better than anyone. Rog

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 11:56
by dagosd2000
kikibalt wrote:Big Mama Thornton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSAOHwQhPcQ
"Ball-N-Chain'"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwlTOspKNh8
"Summertime"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhyjFfZTGHk
"Down Home Shakedown"

Frank
I can see how Black artists enjoyed performing in Europe,especially France. They were treated as equals back then. Jazz and the blues is still very popular in Europe. Many Black musicians relocated there. Sidney Bechet,Josephine Baker,and Dexter Gordon for examples.

The African American soldiers under Pershing were the first Americans to go into combat against the Germans in WWI. France never forgot that. We lost a great Black band leader over there in combat by the name of James Europe. He would have been as famous as Ellington if he'd lived.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:05
by dagosd2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYT0U9lzHkI

Double Crossing Blues

Mal Walker,Little Esther,Johnny Otis

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:09
by dagosd2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ty0GbH8w6c

Far Away Christmas Blues

Little Esther,Mal Walker,Johnny Otis

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:13
by dagosd2000
dagosd2000 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ty0GbH8w6c

Far Away Christmas Blues

Little Esther,Mal Walker,Johnny Otis

Frank
I can listen to this all day and night. That backup with the band is haunting. The vibes,the horns. That's LA. blues that doesn't get any better. To be on South Central Avenue during that time. Man that must have been a gas :TU:

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:13
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:For Rick... :TU:

Image


This is the legendary El Monte Legion Stadium in El Monte, California. Photographed here in the early 1970s, just before it was razed. In the late '50s and up through the '60s it was the venue for Art Laboe's dances and shows. Top west coast performers and groups were featured. In the days preceding a show local radio would feature loud commercials trumpeting the event. "Hello, I'm Art Laboe" was the usual intro, followed by a recitation of the featured performers. Near the end listeners were admonished to "Be there, or be square". And finally there was this warning: "And remember, no khakis or capris please", a not so subtle reminder that gang attire was frowned on. This last bit was perfectly understandable as one has only to look at this picture to realize that EMLS was a really classy place!
El Monte . . .

Frank . . . Thanks for posting this one. Between 1968-69, Sammy Saunders put on some great amateur cards at El Monte Legion.
Boxing had been there in previous years, but Sammy was the last to bring it the building known as "The Pink Elephant".
I read that when they brought in the wrecking ball to dismantle the Legion, it hit the thick cement and bounced off like a hand ball.
They eventually took her down, it's been nearly forty years.

Today when I drive thru El Monte on the San Bernardino Fwy, at the Valley Blvd. exit, I look north to where the building once stood.
A few months back I attended an amateur card in El Monte with Frank, Frankie Jr., El Gato, Bobby Chacon and others.
The fights were held in night club type venue. The bouts were pretty weak, not like what was going on at the Legion four decades past.
Boxers Sammy featured were Armando Muniz, Jimmy Robertson,Danny Alameda, Petey Vital, "Irish" Mike Flynn, Kit Boursse, Clay Hodges, and more.

I remember before the bouts started, a scratched record of the National Anthem was played over the PA system.
An American flag hanging above the stage was illuminated by a small light, blowing in the wind of small fan turned on as the music played.
It was cheesy, but part of the show. I recall it playing as I stood in the ring awaiting my opening bout to begin one evening.
I remember how I felt listening to the National Anthem as I stood in the ring that particular night.
A few days earlier, my family had been notified that my closest cousin, a 22-year-old Army Captain, Mike Woodside, had been killed in Viet Nam.

It was 1969, Viet Nam was hot and heavy. The Beatles had just released there last album, I remember it featured the song, "Something".
In a few months Neil Armstrong would walk on the moon. I drove an old '55 Ford pick-up, was a junior in high school, a year from turning pro.
A few months later, it was the dawn of a new decade- the 70's.

The El Monte Legion Stadium would not be part of the future, but she didn't just lay down when they came to take her apart.
When they swung that wrecking ball, she stood her ground, like the fighters that once fought within her walls.
Eventually, they took her down, but she didn't go easy.

The El Monte Legion Stadium :bow:


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:19
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:Johnny Otis Biography

Image

Born John Veliotes, December 28, 1921, in Vallejo, California, the son of Greek immigrants; married; wife's name, Phyllis; children: John, Jr. (Shuggie); Nicky; Daryl Jon; Janice; and Laura. Addresses: Office--7105 Baker Ln., Sebastopol, CA 95472.

Johnny Otis, son of Greek immigrants, grew up in an ethnically mixed neighborhood in Vallejo, California during the 1920s. Even before falling in love with the black musical traditions, Otis identified with the culture of his black childhood friends and came to think of himself as black. As he wrote in the preface to his 1968 book Listen to the Lambs--penned largely in reaction to the Watts riots of 1965--"I reacted to the way of life, the special vitality, the atmosphere of the black community. . . this difficult to describe quality. . . popularly known as 'soul.'"

Johnny Otis lived the life of soul at the center of black music for starting in the 1940s. In 1939, having quit high school, Otis heard Count Basie at the San Francisco World's Fair and became interested in music. After taking up the drums, Otis played boogie-woogie and blues with a local Berkeley band, gradually moving on to regional bands and playing throughout the west. By this time he had married a black woman named Phyllis Walker, a sweetheart since high school and in 1943, Otis organized a group named after himself and partner Preston Love, the Otis Love Band.

The Otis Love Band worked at a club in Nebraska for a while but Otis soon left to play drums for Harlan Leonard at Los Angeles' Club Alabam. By 1945, Otis formed his first big band (sixteen pieces) to serve as the club's house ensemble. Otis also worked as a studio drummer, making recordings with various artists including Lester Young and Charles Brown. In 1946 Otis had his first hit record with a version of Earle Hagen's "Harlem Nocturne." That same year Otis' big band toured the country with the Inkspots.

By the time Otis' band returned home in 1947, the hey-day of the big band had already passed while audiences rushed to listen to the blues. Otis, losing no time, trimmed down his crew to a smaller combo but kept the trombone, trumpet, and two saxes. "What you had was a small big band playing blues and that sound became R&B," Otis stated in an interview for the Encyclopedia of Pop, Rock & Soul. In 1948, Otis' band opened the Barrel House Club in the Watts section of Los Angeles. From the many black R&B acts at that club, Johnny Otis put together what eventually became known as "The Johnny Otis Show." This group, on the power of singers like Little Esther Phillips, Mel Walker, Devonia "Lady Dee" Williams and others, hit the R&B top forty charts an impressive 15 times between 1950 and 1952.

Otis' knowledge of R&B music, his connections and his popularity made him a natural promoter of the music he loved. Prompted by his desire to spend more time with his family, Otis quit touring in 1955. He became a Los Angeles disc jockey with an immensely popular radio show which led to a television show, and later started his own record label, Dig Records. He ran both the television and radio show out of an office building where, as George Lipsitz noted in an introduction to Otis' 1993 book Upside Your Head, Otis "continued to record hit records himself and to serve as a talent scout for other labels such as Don Robey's Peacock Records from Houston."

As the racial climate of the 1950s and the aversion to rock and roll began to merge in Los Angeles, rock and roll shows were eventually forced from the city by police pressure. The El Monte Legion Stadium, outside the city limits, became the site of a series for legendary rock and roll concerts by Otis and other performers. But in the overtly racist and frightened atmosphere of the times, this too proved intolerable to the powers that be; they revoked a stadium dance license granted to Otis' then partner Hal Zeiger, only relenting thanks to pressure from the ACLU and the NAACP.

At the same time attempts were made to crush the live performances, major labels recognized the profit potential and moved into the R&B arena. Otis succumbed to the money offered and signed with Capitol Records. There he recorded the song "Willie and the Hand Jive" in 1958, possibly the biggest hit of his career. Yet Otis professed to be generally unhappy with this move to Capitol, having abandoned his black roots in favor of making "contrived rock and roll poop" as he told Lipsitz. Other forces, namely that of the British rock invasion, spelled the end of the R&B era.

During the subsequent decade, Otis served his chosen community in non-musical ways. For ten years he acted as deputy chief of staff to a politician named Mervin Dymally. Dymally served in the California State legislature and eventually U.S. Congress. Otis also ministered, via his nondenominational Landmark Community Church, in south central Los Angeles. This church would remain active until the mid-1980s. In the late 1960s Otis, together with his guitar-playing son Johnny Jr. (called "Shuggie"), began making records again starting with Cold Shot. During the 1970s Otis also continued to produce, efforts of this time including albums of Louis Jordan and T-Bone Walker.

The late 1980s and early 1990s found Otis as active as ever: selling an organic line of fruit juice, making radio broadcasts, and painting and sculpting works that reflected his love of African American culture. Further, Otis continued to tour with a 13 person band whose attraction was no doubt in part nostalgic. A revival of interest in 1950s R&B prompted Capitol Records to reissue Otis' work for that label, and Arhoolie, a record company long-interested in preserving American music, put out Otis' Spirit of the Black Territory Bands in 1993. Through this album, listeners may get a sense of Otis' music during the 1940s and visit a vanished era.

by Joseph M. Reiner

Frank
When I was a kid,I remember Johnny Otis taking his show down to San Diego to the El Cortez Hotel. I never got a chance to see him(something I regret),but the fellas' that went said he was terrific. Mal Walker and I think Little Esther was with him at that time. Also he had a tenor sax player who made a few recordings. There was also a skinny woman piano player. Their names escape me. Do you know?

I always thought Johnny Otis exemplified LA. blues better than anyone. Rog
Rog, I seen Johnny Otis live at the El Monte Legion, dont know who that shinny woman piano player would be.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:23
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:For Rick... :TU:

Image


This is the legendary El Monte Legion Stadium in El Monte, California. Photographed here in the early 1970s, just before it was razed. In the late '50s and up through the '60s it was the venue for Art Laboe's dances and shows. Top west coast performers and groups were featured. In the days preceding a show local radio would feature loud commercials trumpeting the event. "Hello, I'm Art Laboe" was the usual intro, followed by a recitation of the featured performers. Near the end listeners were admonished to "Be there, or be square". And finally there was this warning: "And remember, no khakis or capris please", a not so subtle reminder that gang attire was frowned on. This last bit was perfectly understandable as one has only to look at this picture to realize that EMLS was a really classy place!
El Monte . . .

Frank . . . Thanks for posting this one. Between 1968-69, Sammy Saunders put on some great amateur cards at El Monte Legion.
Boxing had been there in previous years, but Sammy was the last to bring it the building known as "The Pink Elephant".
I read that when they brought in the wrecking ball to dismantle the Legion, it hit the thick cement and bounced off like a hand ball.
They eventually took her down, it's been nearly forty years.

Today when I drive thru El Monte on the San Bernardino Fwy, at the Valley Blvd. exit, I look north to where the building once stood.
A few months back I attended an amateur card in El Monte with Frank, Frankie Jr., El Gato, Bobby Chacon and others.
The fights were held in night club type venue. The bouts were pretty weak, not like what was going on at the Legion four decades past.
Boxers Sammy featured were Armando Muniz, Jimmy Robertson,Danny Alameda, Petey Vital, "Irish" Mike Flynn, Kit Boursse, Clay Hodges, and more.

I remember before the bouts started, a scratched record of the National Anthem was played over the PA system.
An American flag hanging above the stage was illuminated by a small light, blowing in the wind of small fan turned on as the music played.
It was cheesy, but part of the show. I recall it playing as I stood in the ring awaiting my opening bout to begin one evening.
I remember how I felt listening to the National Anthem as I stood in the ring that particular night.
A few days earlier, my family had been notified that my closest cousin, a 22-year-old Army Captain, Mike Woodside, had been killed in Viet Nam.

It was 1969, Viet Nam was hot and heavy. The Beatles had just released there last album, I remember it featured the song, "Something".
In a few months Neil Armstrong would walk on the moon. I drove an old '55 Ford pick-up, was a junior in high school, a year from turning pro.
A few months later, it was the dawn of a new decade- the 70's.

The El Monte Legion Stadium would not be part of the future, but she didn't just lay down when they came to take her apart.
When they swung that wrecking ball, she stood her ground, like the fighters that once fought within her walls.
Eventually, they took her down, but she didn't go easy.

The El Monte Legion Stadium :bow:


-Rick Farris
Rick, I fought my last fight at the legion in 1964.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:26
by Rick Farris
Mike Stewart . . .

Hey Frank, do you remember little Mike Stewart, who fought for Sammy Saunders?
I used to see Mike at the Main Street Gym and junior matches, when we were kids.
A few years later he'd turn pro and fight some ten rounders.


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:26
by dagosd2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al86Na20Sx0

Have Love Will Travel


Richard Berry

Frank
This guy was with Johnny Otis.Sang Louie Louie before anyone else. I think the piano player was Dee Brown. I know Clean Head Vinson was with Johnny,but it ain't the name I'm searching for. Gee Frank I wish I could have been with you.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:35
by kikibalt
Image

Rick, thats Ll' Mike Stuart with the black hat.
1973 L.A. Nat. Glove Gloves team, Boston, Ma.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:36
by dagosd2000

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:38
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:For Rick... :TU:

Image


This is the legendary El Monte Legion Stadium in El Monte, California. Photographed here in the early 1970s, just before it was razed. In the late '50s and up through the '60s it was the venue for Art Laboe's dances and shows. Top west coast performers and groups were featured. In the days preceding a show local radio would feature loud commercials trumpeting the event. "Hello, I'm Art Laboe" was the usual intro, followed by a recitation of the featured performers. Near the end listeners were admonished to "Be there, or be square". And finally there was this warning: "And remember, no khakis or capris please", a not so subtle reminder that gang attire was frowned on. This last bit was perfectly understandable as one has only to look at this picture to realize that EMLS was a really classy place!
El Monte . . .

Frank . . . Thanks for posting this one. Between 1968-69, Sammy Saunders put on some great amateur cards at El Monte Legion.
Boxing had been there in previous years, but Sammy was the last to bring it the building known as "The Pink Elephant".
I read that when they brought in the wrecking ball to dismantle the Legion, it hit the thick cement and bounced off like a hand ball.
They eventually took her down, it's been nearly forty years.

Today when I drive thru El Monte on the San Bernardino Fwy, at the Valley Blvd. exit, I look north to where the building once stood.
A few months back I attended an amateur card in El Monte with Frank, Frankie Jr., El Gato, Bobby Chacon and others.
The fights were held in night club type venue. The bouts were pretty weak, not like what was going on at the Legion four decades past.
Boxers Sammy featured were Armando Muniz, Jimmy Robertson,Danny Alameda, Petey Vital, "Irish" Mike Flynn, Kit Boursse, Clay Hodges, and more.

I remember before the bouts started, a scratched record of the National Anthem was played over the PA system.
An American flag hanging above the stage was illuminated by a small light, blowing in the wind of small fan turned on as the music played.
It was cheesy, but part of the show. I recall it playing as I stood in the ring awaiting my opening bout to begin one evening.
I remember how I felt listening to the National Anthem as I stood in the ring that particular night.
A few days earlier, my family had been notified that my closest cousin, a 22-year-old Army Captain, Mike Woodside, had been killed in Viet Nam.

It was 1969, Viet Nam was hot and heavy. The Beatles had just released there last album, I remember it featured the song, "Something".
In a few months Neil Armstrong would walk on the moon. I drove an old '55 Ford pick-up, was a junior in high school, a year from turning pro.
A few months later, it was the dawn of a new decade- the 70's.

The El Monte Legion Stadium would not be part of the future, but she didn't just lay down when they came to take her apart.
When they swung that wrecking ball, she stood her ground, like the fighters that once fought within her walls.
Eventually, they took her down, but she didn't go easy.

The El Monte Legion Stadium :bow:


-Rick Farris
Rick, I fought my last fight at the legion in 1964.
Frank, you stepped out of the ring shortly before I stepped into one.
I know you talk more of your boy's careers than your own, but you spent sixteen years fighting and training with the best.
I wish I'd have had the chance to see you box, but I will never forget the first time I saw Frankie Jr., Tony and Bobby fight!

Damn, I'll say it again, but watching that little Tony level other kids with the whistling left hook was quite a treat.
My mother would attend my fights occasionally, and her favorite "pee-wee" was Tony Baltazar.
Frankie Jr. was always smooth, cool and in control, a classic southpaw that could bang. Memories!

Last Xmas, Monica I were visiting my mother up in Paso Robles. I went to her computor to check out our thread.
I found a recent pic of Tony and one of his daughter. I showed my mother the pretty young lady and told my mom it was Tony's child.
She enjoyed seeing the pictures, and I showed her a few others you've posted of the boys. Time Flys, huh?



-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:42
by kikibalt
dagosd2000 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al86Na20Sx0

Have Love Will Travel


Richard Berry

Frank
This guy was with Johnny Otis.Sang Louie Louie before anyone else. I think the piano player was Dee Brown. I know Clean Head Vinson was with Johnny,but it ain't the name I'm searching for. Gee Frank I wish I could have been with you.
You would to have been born in the mid-30s to have hung around with me back in the day, we would had have fun for sure.... :lol:

I remember Richard Barry and Clean Head real good from back in the days of the El Monte Legion.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:47
by Rick Farris
kikibalt wrote:Image

Rick, thats Ll' Mike Stuart with the black hat.
1973 L.A. Nat. Glove Gloves team, Boston, Ma.

That was a hot team. One future World Champ, two others that challeneged for world titles, and some damn good main eventers, as well. And I almost forgot, one Nat'l GG's champ for L.A. that year- Roy Hollis. A team to be proud of!


-Rick Farris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 12:52
by kikibalt
Rick Farris wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:For Rick... :TU:

Image


This is the legendary El Monte Legion Stadium in El Monte, California. Photographed here in the early 1970s, just before it was razed. In the late '50s and up through the '60s it was the venue for Art Laboe's dances and shows. Top west coast performers and groups were featured. In the days preceding a show local radio would feature loud commercials trumpeting the event. "Hello, I'm Art Laboe" was the usual intro, followed by a recitation of the featured performers. Near the end listeners were admonished to "Be there, or be square". And finally there was this warning: "And remember, no khakis or capris please", a not so subtle reminder that gang attire was frowned on. This last bit was perfectly understandable as one has only to look at this picture to realize that EMLS was a really classy place!
El Monte . . .

Frank . . . Thanks for posting this one. Between 1968-69, Sammy Saunders put on some great amateur cards at El Monte Legion.
Boxing had been there in previous years, but Sammy was the last to bring it the building known as "The Pink Elephant".
I read that when they brought in the wrecking ball to dismantle the Legion, it hit the thick cement and bounced off like a hand ball.
They eventually took her down, it's been nearly forty years.

Today when I drive thru El Monte on the San Bernardino Fwy, at the Valley Blvd. exit, I look north to where the building once stood.
A few months back I attended an amateur card in El Monte with Frank, Frankie Jr., El Gato, Bobby Chacon and others.
The fights were held in night club type venue. The bouts were pretty weak, not like what was going on at the Legion four decades past.
Boxers Sammy featured were Armando Muniz, Jimmy Robertson,Danny Alameda, Petey Vital, "Irish" Mike Flynn, Kit Boursse, Clay Hodges, and more.

I remember before the bouts started, a scratched record of the National Anthem was played over the PA system.
An American flag hanging above the stage was illuminated by a small light, blowing in the wind of small fan turned on as the music played.
It was cheesy, but part of the show. I recall it playing as I stood in the ring awaiting my opening bout to begin one evening.
I remember how I felt listening to the National Anthem as I stood in the ring that particular night.
A few days earlier, my family had been notified that my closest cousin, a 22-year-old Army Captain, Mike Woodside, had been killed in Viet Nam.

It was 1969, Viet Nam was hot and heavy. The Beatles had just released there last album, I remember it featured the song, "Something".
In a few months Neil Armstrong would walk on the moon. I drove an old '55 Ford pick-up, was a junior in high school, a year from turning pro.
A few months later, it was the dawn of a new decade- the 70's.

The El Monte Legion Stadium would not be part of the future, but she didn't just lay down when they came to take her apart.
When they swung that wrecking ball, she stood her ground, like the fighters that once fought within her walls.
Eventually, they took her down, but she didn't go easy.

The El Monte Legion Stadium :bow:


-Rick Farris
Rick, I fought my last fight at the legion in 1964.

Frank, you stepped out of the ring shortly before I stepped into one.
I know you talk more of your boy's careers than your own, but you spent sixteen years fighting and training with the best.
I wish I'd have had the chance to see you box, but I will never forget the first time I saw Frankie Jr., Tony and Bobby fight!

Damn, I'll say it again, but watching that little Tony level other kids with the whistling left hook was quite a treat.
My mother would attend my fights occasionally, and her favorite "pee-wee" was Tony Baltazar.
Frankie Jr. was always smooth, cool and in control, a classic southpaw that could bang. Memories!

Last Xmas, Monica I were visiting my mother up in Paso Robles. I went to her computor to check out our thread.
I found a recent pic of Tony and one of his daughter. I showed my mother the pretty young lady and told my mom it was Tony's child.
She enjoyed seeing the pictures, and I showed her a few others you've posted of the boys. Time Flys, huh?



-Rick Farris
Rick, I spent most of my boxing career training, In all the years that I boxed I only had 17 amateur fights, which I lost most of them, too much of a play-boy I guess... :lol:

Yes, time does fly, it waits for no one.

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 13:07
by kikibalt
Think I posted this one before but, here it is again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Cn2QyLE_Q
"Good Rockin' Tonight"

Wynonie Harris

Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

Posted: 20 Jul 2009, 13:21
by Rick Farris
"Time waits for no one."

Johnny Flores used to say this.
I had the good luck of growing up around a few great story tellers.
Johnny Flores was one of the best. :TU:


-Rick Farris