Hypothetical Match-Up Game

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carbajal in a tough close points win




ken buchanan vs alexis arguello
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boxerbob wrote:carbajal in a tough close points win




ken buchanan vs alexis arguello
Arguello dominates and wins by wide decision.

Marciano vs Valuev
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
boxerbob wrote:carbajal in a tough close points win




ken buchanan vs alexis arguello
Arguello dominates and wins by wide decision.

Marciano vs Valuev
Marciano is far ahead in class, KO 9

Oscar De La Hoya vs Jermain Taylor @ 158
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I am going to for Jermain Taylor on a points decision as I don't feel that being at 160lbs was the best weight for the Golden Boy in my opinion as he laboured to a 12 round decision against Felix Sturm and got sliced in half by Bernard Hopkins when he was trailing on the cards by 6 rounds and 4 rounds respectively.

Next match up.

Tommy Hearns v Oscar De La Hoya: 12 rounds Welterweight.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:I am going to for Jermain Taylor on a points decision as I don't feel that being at 160lbs was the best weight for the Golden Boy in my opinion as he laboured to a 12 round decision against Felix Sturm and got sliced in half by Bernard Hopkins when he was trailing on the cards by 6 rounds and 4 rounds respectively.

Next match up.

Tommy Hearns v Oscar De La Hoya: 12 rounds Welterweight.
I'm a Hearns fan, but I think this would be a lot closer than a lot of people think. Hearns wins by decision after a scare in the last three rounds.

Hearns (that beat Duran) vs McCallum (who beat Curry) @ 154.
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Hearns outboxes McCallum leading to a semi-wide UD.

Zab Judah vs Roger Mayweather @ 140
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chucktaylor wrote:Hearns outboxes McCallum leading to a semi-wide UD.

Zab Judah vs Roger Mayweather @ 140
:lol:

Judah busts Mayweather up and knocks him out by about round 5. He was more than quick enough to catch Roger with almost everything and evasive enough to blunt much of the return fire early.

Israel Vazquez vs. Naseem Hamed PrimevPrime
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Though I am not a Vazquez fan per se, he has my respect & admiration, which is why it pains me to say I see him getting bombed big-time by the larger Hamed. A relatively-crude, face-first brawler like Vazquez, especially giving up some size, would be knocked our sooner or later by Hamed's awkward angles & heavy hands.

I think Hamed gets it done in about seven. Would be hoping I'm wrong, though.

Haven't seen this one yet, so...

Flash Elorde vs. Erik Morales! 12 rounds...
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:Though I am not a Vazquez fan per se, he has my respect & admiration, which is why it pains me to say I see him getting bombed big-time by the larger Hamed. A relatively-crude, face-first brawler like Vazquez, especially giving up some size, would be knocked our sooner or later by Hamed's awkward angles & heavy hands.

I think Hamed gets it done in about seven. Would be hoping I'm wrong, though.

Haven't seen this one yet, so...

Flash Elorde vs. Erik Morales! 12 rounds...
Since Morales has the benefit of the modern weight-drain I'm going to use the young Super Bantam version of him, since that was the point at which he'd be about equal in size to Elorde on fight night.

Anyway, I see a very fun fight that resembles Erik's (how'd he get such a Viking-ish name anyway?) fight with In-jin Chi, only more competitive. Morales pulls out a fairly close decision in a fun fight where Morales really tests Elorde's chin and Flash tests Morales' skills.

Here's an interesting one...

Ricardo Lopez vs. Jorge Arce at 112. :twisted:
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Diamond WEAPON wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Though I am not a Vazquez fan per se, he has my respect & admiration, which is why it pains me to say I see him getting bombed big-time by the larger Hamed. A relatively-crude, face-first brawler like Vazquez, especially giving up some size, would be knocked our sooner or later by Hamed's awkward angles & heavy hands.

I think Hamed gets it done in about seven. Would be hoping I'm wrong, though.

Haven't seen this one yet, so...

Flash Elorde vs. Erik Morales! 12 rounds...
Since Morales has the benefit of the modern weight-drain I'm going to use the young Super Bantam version of him, since that was the point at which he'd be about equal in size to Elorde on fight night.

Anyway, I see a very fun fight that resembles Erik's (how'd he get such a Viking-ish name anyway?) fight with In-jin Chi, only more competitive. Morales pulls out a fairly close decision in a fun fight where Morales really tests Elorde's chin and Flash tests Morales' skills.

Here's an interesting one...

Ricardo Lopez vs. Jorge Arce at 112. :twisted:
Lopez wins by decision

Next: Nigel Benn (that beat McCLellan) vs Julian Jackson (that beat Herol Graham)
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Benn climbs of the deck to stop the powerful Jackson late in this one. Benn TKO11.

Napoles vs Hearns @ WW
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Hearns on a tight points decision as Napoles's smooth boxing style and elusiveness frustrates the Motor City Cobra and Napoles rocks him a few times, but Hearns cuts Napoles over the left eye.

Next up....
Oscar Bonavena v David Tua 12 rounds Heavyweight.
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Bonavena eeks out a decision.

Prime Antonio Cervantes vs. Aaron Pryor...
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Pryor still wins, but by a close decision.

Lennox Lewis vs Larry Holmes
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chucktaylor wrote:Pryor still wins, but by a close decision.

Lennox Lewis vs Larry Holmes
Holmes down in round 5. Holmes wins by late stoppage. Lewis' face is badly damaged.

Next.

Lewis vs Bowe
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Lennox wins by late stoppage after a real war, this would have been one of the great fights of the 90's.

and around we go...
Larry Holmes vs Riddick Bowe
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Tough one to call actually Holmes will look to jab his way in, Bowe is very good on the inside so it is real pick them fight but also Bowe likes a tear up so I am tempted to say Bowe late stoppage as Holmes gets ground with the inside work from Bowe.

next up.

Sonny Liston v Mike Tyson 12 rounds.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:Tough one to call actually Holmes will look to jab his way in, Bowe is very good on the inside so it is real pick them fight but also Bowe likes a tear up so I am tempted to say Bowe late stoppage as Holmes gets ground with the inside work from Bowe.

next up.

Sonny Liston v Mike Tyson 12 rounds.
Liston's reach over Tyson's speed, IMO. Liston in four.

Fernando Vargas (2000) vs. Manny Pacquiao (2010) at Jr. Middle...
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:
IRLangmaid25 wrote:Tough one to call actually Holmes will look to jab his way in, Bowe is very good on the inside so it is real pick them fight but also Bowe likes a tear up so I am tempted to say Bowe late stoppage as Holmes gets ground with the inside work from Bowe.

next up.

Sonny Liston v Mike Tyson 12 rounds.
Liston's reach over Tyson's speed, IMO. Liston in four.

Fernando Vargas (2000) vs. Manny Pacquiao (2010) at Jr. Middle...
Vargas in 3.

NEXT: Leon Spinks (vs Ali) v Valuev (vs Haye)
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Valuev by Decision.

Matthew Hilton that fought Dewitt at 160 vs David Lemieux that fought Camacho jr.
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Lemieux by an early knockout. he would not be able to deal with Lemieux's desire to take his head off...

Here's a good one for you

Sugar Shane Mosley v Oscar De La Hoya.... At Lightweight.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:Lemieux by an early knockout. he would not be able to deal with Lemieux's desire to take his head off...

Here's a good one for you

Sugar Shane Mosley v Oscar De La Hoya.... At Lightweight.
Yes, that is a good one. De La Hoya & Mosley were both heavy-draining monsters at this weight. They both had crippling power at this weight, too. I remember Jesse James Leija, who fought both men & was asked to pick who was better, once said, "I'll tell you the difference...Oscar punches like a Heavyweight."

Nevertheless, Mosley was brutally big & powerful at 135, too. Was he faster than De La Hoya? I believe he was...but, then, I would class De La Hoya as having the more varied arsenal, & array of punches. I think we have scores of 115-113, 115-114 & 114-114, for the winner by majority decision...The Golden Boy, Oscar De La Hooooyaaaaa! Would be a great scrap to watch, too.

Let me throw you a curve ball --- Floyd Patterson (2nd Johansson fight, 1960) vs. Billy Conn (1st Louis fight, 1941) over fifteen rounds at Heavyweight!
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Goodnight, Irene wrote:
IRLangmaid25 wrote:Lemieux by an early knockout. he would not be able to deal with Lemieux's desire to take his head off...

Here's a good one for you

Sugar Shane Mosley v Oscar De La Hoya.... At Lightweight.
Yes, that is a good one. De La Hoya & Mosley were both heavy-draining monsters at this weight. They both had crippling power at this weight, too. I remember Jesse James Leija, who fought both men & was asked to pick who was better, once said, "I'll tell you the difference...Oscar punches like a Heavyweight."

Nevertheless, Mosley was brutally big & powerful at 135, too. Was he faster than De La Hoya? I believe he was...but, then, I would class De La Hoya as having the more varied arsenal, & array of punches. I think we have scores of 115-113, 115-114 & 114-114, for the winner by majority decision...The Golden Boy, Oscar De La Hooooyaaaaa! Would be a great scrap to watch, too.

Let me throw you a curve ball --- Floyd Patterson (2nd Johansson fight, 1960) vs. Billy Conn (1st Louis fight, 1941) over fifteen rounds at Heavyweight!
I'll take Patterson to KO Conn around the 10th, tearing him up on the inside with the left hook. Louis' first fight with Conn was one of Joe's poorer performances and Patterson was in top form for the Johansson rematch. Conn's savvy ring movement might win him some early rounds, but Patterson was fast on his feet and Conn would find it difficult to stay away from inside exchanges with Floyd.

Livingstone Bramble vs Juan Diaz @ 135...
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Juan Diaz on a wide points decision for me.

Next up.

Pernell Whittaker v Oscar De la Hoya... At Lightweight.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:Juan Diaz on a wide points decision for me.

Next up.

Pernell Whittaker v Oscar De la Hoya... At Lightweight.
For me, Whitaker would be too mobile dancing from side to side catching De La Hoya with the jab and right hook not letting ODLH get set to throw his combinations. I would envisage a wide points win for Sweet Pea.
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