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Re: MMA

Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 02:46
by p4p1
Bispings team are saying that a deal is almost reached with GSP. It better be fornicating bullshit! Romero and Jacare don't deserve to be fucked over again. GSP is probably desperate for the Bisping fight because he knows Romero will take his head off and Jacare will either knock him out or submit him and both will beat Bisping if they get him first.

Re: MMA

Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 09:40
by Impractical Poster
p4p1 wrote:Bispings team are saying that a deal is almost reached with GSP. It better be effing bullshit! Romero and Jacare don't deserve to be fucked over again. GSP is probably desperate for the Bisping fight because he knows Romero will take his head off and Jacare will either knock him out or submit him and both will beat Bisping if they get him first.
Bisping is desperate as hell for that money fight. Everyone including himself understands that he is not going to be any type of dominate champion. Trying to get it while he can. However, I will be surprised if GSP actually takes it. He'll have to defend against one of the monsters after he beats Bisping anyhow. So, even though an undeserved title shot for him may be an easy night's work, the defense would be a lot tougher than the fight I thought he lost against Big Rigg.

Re: MMA

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 09:50
by Impractical Poster
Just read this from Bisping.
“Odds are it’s going to be Yoel Romero, my next fight,” Bisping said Monday on The MMA Hour. “That’s what I’m assuming. I’ve had no further dialogue with the UFC, but I know that Georges (St-Pierre), his trainer (Jorge Blanco) told me recently that they’re pretty much at an agreement with the UFC, so the deal is almost done and he wants to fight me. I am the fight that they’re targeting, so it’s not beyond the realm of possibility. As of right now, I would assume that Yoel is my next opponent, but there’s always that wild card.”

Re: MMA

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 12:06
by p4p1
Impractical Poster wrote:
p4p1 wrote:Bispings team are saying that a deal is almost reached with GSP. It better be effing bullshit! Romero and Jacare don't deserve to be fucked over again. GSP is probably desperate for the Bisping fight because he knows Romero will take his head off and Jacare will either knock him out or submit him and both will beat Bisping if they get him first.
Bisping is desperate as hell for that money fight. Everyone including himself understands that he is not going to be any type of dominate champion. Trying to get it while he can. However, I will be surprised if GSP actually takes it. He'll have to defend against one of the monsters after he beats Bisping anyhow. So, even though an undeserved title shot for him may be an easy night's work, the defense would be a lot tougher than the fight I thought he lost against Big Rigg.
I thought he lost against Hendricks as well. I hope he doesn't get an immidiate shot at WW or MW upon his return, both divisions have guys who deserve and have earned their shot. Divisions being held up for money fights is getting really old. At 36 and having been inactive for 3 1/2 years he should have a tuneup to earn a shot.

Re: MMA

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 13:16
by punchoutsb
Impractical Poster wrote:Just read this from Bisping.
“Odds are it’s going to be Yoel Romero, my next fight,” Bisping said Monday on The MMA Hour. “That’s what I’m assuming. I’ve had no further dialogue with the UFC, but I know that Georges (St-Pierre), his trainer (Jorge Blanco) told me recently that they’re pretty much at an agreement with the UFC, so the deal is almost done and he wants to fight me. I am the fight that they’re targeting, so it’s not beyond the realm of possibility. As of right now, I would assume that Yoel is my next opponent, but there’s always that wild card.”
Obviously GSP makes so much more sense for Bisping than either Romero or Jacare, I'm sure that's the fight they will push for and I will not blame the Count one bit. If Jacare and Yoel get screwed it's the UFCs fault...but again it is a business...

Doesn't it suck when fans of a sport have to try and defend these big money mobsters for screwing fighters and fans out of the fights that should be happening?

Re: MMA

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 13:35
by Impractical Poster
punchoutsb wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:Just read this from Bisping.
“Odds are it’s going to be Yoel Romero, my next fight,” Bisping said Monday on The MMA Hour. “That’s what I’m assuming. I’ve had no further dialogue with the UFC, but I know that Georges (St-Pierre), his trainer (Jorge Blanco) told me recently that they’re pretty much at an agreement with the UFC, so the deal is almost done and he wants to fight me. I am the fight that they’re targeting, so it’s not beyond the realm of possibility. As of right now, I would assume that Yoel is my next opponent, but there’s always that wild card.”
Obviously GSP makes so much more sense for Bisping than either Romero or Jacare, I'm sure that's the fight they will push for and I will not blame the Count one bit. If Jacare and Yoel get screwed it's the UFCs fault...but again it is a business...

Doesn't it suck when fans of a sport have to try and defend these big money mobsters for screwing fighters and fans out of the fights that should be happening?
Absolutely! I am huge on keeping the integrity of the sport intact. While I feel that 2016 may have been the best year MMA has ever seen, I don't quite like the direction it is shifting to with the dealings of some of these fighters. I am all for paying the fighters what they deserve. But, it should be clear that the fighters do not call the shots. I don't care how popular they are (Conor). You are still an employee and the UFC gave you this platform. I just hope this sport doesn't end up in the same rut as boxing.

Re: MMA

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 14:26
by p4p1
Bisping could well beat GSP. He has pretty solid TDD, good striking and movement and cardio for days. However he is a better match up than Yoel who is just a beast everywhere and would rag doll GSP if he chose to. Then you have Jacare who has power on his feet and GSP wouldn't want to put him on his back because well he's Jacare. He would be a hard guy to jab to a decision with no real threat of a TD. To beat either of those guys GSP would have to tire them first but I'm not sure how he would do that to either guy without putting himself in real danger.

Re: MMA

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 14:38
by SaadOffTheDeck
punchoutsb wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:Just read this from Bisping.
“Odds are it’s going to be Yoel Romero, my next fight,” Bisping said Monday on The MMA Hour. “That’s what I’m assuming. I’ve had no further dialogue with the UFC, but I know that Georges (St-Pierre), his trainer (Jorge Blanco) told me recently that they’re pretty much at an agreement with the UFC, so the deal is almost done and he wants to fight me. I am the fight that they’re targeting, so it’s not beyond the realm of possibility. As of right now, I would assume that Yoel is my next opponent, but there’s always that wild card.”
Obviously GSP makes so much more sense for Bisping than either Romero or Jacare, I'm sure that's the fight they will push for and I will not blame the Count one bit. If Jacare and Yoel get screwed it's the UFCs fault...but again it is a business...

Doesn't it suck when fans of a sport have to try and defend these big money mobsters for screwing fighters and fans out of the fights that should be happening?
Gsp deserves what he wants. Bisping does too. Thank God they did bisping/hendo. They're doing it right.

Re: MMA

Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 14:55
by Impractical Poster
The Hendo fight was OK as I understand Bisping wanted to avenge the worst loss of his career. But, it's time to let a deserving challenger fight for the title. GSP had the title and voluntarily relinquished it after a controversial win some years back. If he wants it back, he needs to get in line... Or at least let a deserving, active contender get a shot first, then let GSP come on in and have his hand in the current climate.

As I stated before, I am not a big fan of these exceptions and holding up of a division. Let's keep the sport legit and give the guys next in line their proper shot.

Re: MMA

Posted: 16 Feb 2017, 00:00
by Impractical Poster
Looking forward to Lombard/Hendricks on Sunday.

Re: MMA

Posted: 16 Feb 2017, 04:51
by p4p1
I'm finding it hard to get too excited about 2 guys on losing streaks fighting. I'm sure it's going to be an entertaining round though so I'll definitely catch it.

Next month is where it's at though, 209 is going to be awesome and GGG vs Jacobs.

Re: MMA

Posted: 16 Feb 2017, 10:34
by Impractical Poster
p4p1 wrote:I'm finding it hard to get too excited about 2 guys on losing streaks fighting. I'm sure it's going to be an entertaining round though so I'll definitely catch it.

Next month is where it's at though, 209 is going to be awesome and GGG vs Jacobs.
Yeah, I know the losing streaks suck, but they are still relatively top skilled fighters who are extremely exciting.

I watched the AFC card on Fight Pass last night. It really put the sport in perspective for me. I can't remember ever watching a promotion on that level before. It makes me appreciate the level of skill the UFC and even Bellator rosters have. So, even though fighters like Hendricks and Lombard are on losing streaks, they are still better than 95% of the mixed martial artists in the world.

Regarding UFC 209, can't wait!! Ferguson/Khabab is one of the best match-ups in the entire sport. For some reason I'm not too pumped for Woodley/Wonderboy. Overeem/Hunt should be exciting while it lasts. Expecting Hunt to win that one. He'll probably show off with another walk away KO.

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 13:30
by TheGman
Holly holm gor ripped off on saturday,there is no way she lost that fight

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 15:02
by Impractical Poster
thechump wrote:Holly holm gor ripped off on saturday,there is no way she lost that fight
It was a close fight.

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 15:25
by TheGman
Impractical Poster wrote:
thechump wrote:Holly holm gor ripped off on saturday,there is no way she lost that fight
It was a close fight.
But holly won it,the ref was awful,id of took at keast 1 point off for hitting after the bell,not just after the bell but well after the bell in 2 rounds it was a joke,holly was rocked after rhe first one. Cyborg will smash anyone in that division anyway

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 16:16
by Impractical Poster
thechump wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:
thechump wrote:Holly holm gor ripped off on saturday,there is no way she lost that fight
It was a close fight.
But holly won it,the ref was awful,id of took at keast 1 point off for hitting after the bell,not just after the bell but well after the bell in 2 rounds it was a joke,holly was rocked after rhe first one. Cyborg will smash anyone in that division anyway
I don't think Holly won in any clear type of way. It could have been 48-47 either way. Now, had a point been taken away from de Randamie, as it should have been, it would have been a draw. Another outcome I would not have disputed.

I do agree that Cyborg would toy with anyone in the division. But she's also more of a brute than 95% of guys I know.

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 16:22
by punchoutsb
I agree 145 will be Cyborgs as soon as shes able to fight again.

Personally I hope we've seen the end of Rousey, but now that there's a 145 I can really see the UFC try to lure Gina back for a fight with Rousey. I haven't really heard any rumors about it, but it just seems like something that they would do to try and cash out Ronda one last time. I don't think anyone is interested in seeing her fight a no-name, but she can't beat the tip top at 35 anymore, and she can't beat any of the three I know of at 45. Gina could probably make 45 relatively easily and Ronda may not shite herself at the thought of fighting again since Gina's been out so long.

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 16:31
by jamesmcdonnell
Impractical Poster wrote:
thechump wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote: It was a close fight.
But holly won it,the ref was awful,id of took at keast 1 point off for hitting after the bell,not just after the bell but well after the bell in 2 rounds it was a joke,holly was rocked after rhe first one. Cyborg will smash anyone in that division anyway
I don't think Holly won in any clear type of way. It could have been 48-47 either way. Now, had a point been taken away from de Randamie, as it should have been, it would have been a draw. Another outcome I would not have disputed.

I do agree that Cyborg would toy with anyone in the division. But she's also more of a brute than 95% of guys I know.
Cyborg is either intergender, or she's roided to the hilt, the jaw, the voice, the build smacks of very high testosterone levels, either natural or synthetic.

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 19:50
by Impractical Poster
Thought Bellator was on tonight. Looks like a Saturday night Bellator card. Not the best, but not too shabby for Bellator. A few UFC vets..

Fedor Emelianenko / Matt Mitrione
Josh Thomson / Patricky Freire
Cheick Kongo / Oli Thompson
Josh Koscheck / Mauricio Alonso

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 20:00
by p4p1
Cyborg has been cleared.

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 20:01
by Impractical Poster
p4p1 wrote:Cyborg has been cleared.
I'll bet the whole Cyborg camp just passed out. :lol:

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 20:04
by p4p1
Impractical Poster wrote:
p4p1 wrote:Cyborg has been cleared.
I'll bet the whole Cyborg camp just passed out. :lol:
I bet de Randamie did as well :lol:

Re: MMA

Posted: 17 Feb 2017, 21:25
by SaadOffTheDeck
p4p1 wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:
p4p1 wrote:Cyborg has been cleared.
I'll bet the whole Cyborg camp just passed out. :lol:
I bet de Randamie did as well :lol:
She thinks Holm should get an immediate rematch.

Re: MMA

Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 03:28
by TheGman
Impractical Poster wrote:
thechump wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote: It was a close fight.
But holly won it,the ref was awful,id of took at keast 1 point off for hitting after the bell,not just after the bell but well after the bell in 2 rounds it was a joke,holly was rocked after rhe first one. Cyborg will smash anyone in that division anyway
I don't think Holly won in any clear type of way. It could have been 48-47 either way. Now, had a point been taken away from de Randamie, as it should have been, it would have been a draw. Another outcome I would not have disputed.

I do agree that Cyborg would toy with anyone in the division. But she's also more of a brute than 95% of guys I know.
So how do u score a fight,punches landed? Take down attempts? Wether someone has rocked someone? The only thing randamie done that holly holm never done was press the fight and be the aggresser. The only time holm got rocked was with an illegal punch. It is all about opinion but my opinion is holm won that fightand woukd of won it by a healthy margin had the ref done his job properly

Re: MMA

Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 03:31
by TheGman
See de radamie's face when she was asked about cyborg? She looked the colour of boiled sh1te,"iv got to have an operation on my hand" WHAT? it was ok for holm but not for cyborg? smells like chicken