PredatorHayds wrote: ↑27 May 2020, 09:33
Stracey-Napoles.
Stracey does well to survive a first round were he gets put down.
Stracey gets his jab off in the second and quickly starts busting Napoles up.
Stracey was naughty on the inside left the head in and generally made himself the boss.
Great performance from Stracey. Survived the hostile crowd, altitude and the knockdown to beat one of the greats.
One of the best displays of the jab in British boxing history here. It’s incredible throughout.
He even does an Ali shuffle in the 3rd.
I loved this fight ....Stracey cooked up one of Britain's best performances at that time....
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 28 May 2020, 04:50
by evrenb
I've been watching a lot of early Bruno fights...takes me back..Harry carpenter, royal Albert hall or Wembley, great atmosphere....
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 28 May 2020, 06:05
by handsofstone
Firat Arslan vs Virgil Hill
Arslan beats Hill via UD to become World Cruiserweight champion, only 20 odd minutes available which is just as well as it was pure shite, both men were way past their best and looked like it was in slow motion, they did kind of meet head on with the lack of legs from both guys but it was still a poor spectacle
Arslan won wide on 2 cards but he never looked that much better than Hill, he just forced things, landed some southpaw left crossed to jerk Hill back, Hill threw pity patty combos which had little effect, Arslan walking forward was what effectively won him thr fight because as far as landing meaningful punches both were dreadful
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 28 May 2020, 07:16
by milpool
Barry Michael v Rocky Lockridge
Rocky Lockridge relieves Aussie Michael of his IBF super featherweight crown after pounding him into submission after 8 rounds. The American commentators were quick to point out before the fight that Michael hadn't faced anyone of the class of Lockridge and although Barry gave it a good go, the constant pressure from Lockridge was enough to eventually retire Michael with a broken nose and perforated eardrum after eight completed rounds.
Lockridge never looked like putting Michael down and looked to have punched himself out around the fifth, but he found a second wind and continued his assault. Michael was well behind on points at the point of his retirement and winning by stoppage looked very unlikely.
I knew that this fight took place in a nightclub in Windsor, what I didn't realise is that just before they were due to come out, the place needed to be evacuated because of a bomb scare. Lockridge left the venue but Michael stayed in his dressing room.
Michael announced his retirement in his post fight interview and unlike many others, he stuck to it and never fought again.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 31 May 2020, 05:55
by handsofstone
Evander Holyfield vs Henry Tillman
Holyfield stops Tillman in the 7th to retain his World Cruiserweight title, had him down 4 times in all, Tillman had a decent 1st and you could see he was a well schooled fighter but Holyfield is a machine and just walked through him and busted him up pretty bad, Tillman was down in the 2nd after a 1/2 from Holyfield, Tillman wa hurt pretty bad and never done much for next couple rounds as Holyfield blasted away
Tillman tried to duke it out with Holyfield realising he couldn't box him but again Tillman came off second best, Holyfield bullied him up close,. landing left hook, right hands and uppercuts through the middle, Tillman was down 3 times in the 7th, first two knockdowns came from left hook/right hands and both times Tillman bravely got up in on shaky legs, Holyfield then blew him away with a 2 punch combination, left hooks doing thr real damage to floor Tillman for a fourth time to end things
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 01 Jun 2020, 04:00
by milpool
Micky Ward v Emanuel Augustus
This was an absolute slugfest. It had less skill than the Ward/Gatti trilogy, Augustus is no Arturo Gatti, but it was all action from begining to end.
Ward won a comfortable decision but the scoring was dubious to say the least. The commentators agreed that Ward probably shaded it, mainly due to the knockdown he scored in round 8, however, the 96-91 and 98-90 scorecards were scandalous. If you believe the compubox stats, Augustus was a lot busier and far more successful with shots landed but the fight was so frenetic it was difficult to see who was getting the upper hand.
Referee Steve Smoger rarely had to get involved and risked getting a couple of whacks himself when he had to prise them apart at the end of each round.
I didn't score the fight, but I might watch it again and score it. I did think that Augustus was the aggressor for the most part and probably suffered from a bit of home cooking. However, he didn't complain when the scores were read out.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 01 Jun 2020, 06:26
by NoScoutingReports
milpool wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 04:00
Micky Ward v Emanuel Augustus
This was an absolute slugfest. It had less skill than the Ward/Gatti trilogy, Augustus is no Arturo Gatti, but it was all action from begining to end.
Ward won a comfortable decision but the scoring was dubious to say the least. The commentators agreed that Ward probably shaded it, mainly due to the knockdown he scored in round 8, however, the 96-91 and 98-90 scorecards were scandalous. If you believe the compubox stats, Augustus was a lot busier and far more successful with shots landed but the fight was so frenetic it was difficult to see who was getting the upper hand.
Referee Steve Smoger rarely had to get involved and risked getting a couple of whacks himself when he had to prise them apart at the end of each round.
I didn't score the fight, but I might watch it again and score it. I did think that Augustus was the aggressor for the most part and probably suffered from a bit of home cooking. However, he didn't complain when the scores were read out.
Barnstormer of a fight!
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 02 Jun 2020, 03:27
by handsofstone
Evander Holyfield vs Carlos De Leon
Holyfield stops De Leon on his feet in the 8th to unify and become undisputed World Cruiserweight champion, brave stand from De Leon who never went down but took some big shots and was rocked several times throughout, De Leon spent pretty much all fight backed up against the ropes where Holyfield teed off on him with short compact punches from both hands
De Leon was hurt as early as the 2nd but showed mettle to hand around until round 8, the writing was always in the wall though and Holyfield managed to find the punches to force the ref to step in after Holyfield snapped De Leon's head back with lefts and straight rights
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 03 Jun 2020, 18:42
by Counter-puncher
chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2019, 13:08
Lupe Pintor-Alberto Davila II
Excellent match. Davila, with his beautiful skills and combination punching got off toe a great start and shook up Pintor a little. Pintor gradually worked his way into the fight and was the stronger of the two and edged it out with a strong rally. It was a close fight and competitive all the way with both guys showing a lot of quality.
I’m just watching this for the second time in a week, I *think* I saw it or at least some of it some months ago. I must have been pretty fucken drunk not to remember what a superb fight this was. Not the fireworks of Gomez-Pintor, in terms of the explosive flurries, but constant back and forth even as one fighter controls certain parts of the fight
Brilliant style clash, great tactical adjustments by Pintor, who’s a better and more versatile boxer than I have given him credit for, offsetting Davila’s lovely cute skills not just with his extra power and stoic, constant wearing pressure, but his variety in setting up attacks and his way of negating Davila’s attacks (which became more rare as the fight went on) and then his counters too. Even though Davila really looked the technician in the ring early in this fight I think his technical adaptation to Davila was a big part of the win.
Thanks for the recommendation
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 03:53
by handsofstone
Evander Holyfield vs James Tillis
Holyfield stops Tillis after 5 rounds of a non title Heavyweight fight, Tillis pulled out on his stool before the 6th, one sided beatdown from Holyfield really, Tillis never done much and was constantly backed up by Holyfield who pressured from the opening bell
Holyfield marched forward but was happy to fight midrange and hit Tillis with solid left jabs and hard straight rights and he'd let the punches go when he did get up close on the inside, in the 5th Tillis was hurt and sagging on the ropes as Holyfield banged him with hard left hooks and rights, he just about made the round without getting stopped but after the 5th ended the fight was stopped
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 03:54
by margaret thatcher
Holy really battered guys when he was younger, unhealthy guy to fight
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 07 Jun 2020, 04:12
by handsofstone
Evander Holyfield vs Pinklon Thomas
Holyfield stops Thomas after 7 rounds in a non title Heavyweight fight, another one sided beatdown from Holyfield, it wasnt explosive it was more methodical, round after round Holyfield pressured, hard strong jabs crashing into the face of Thomas then bullying up close with short clubbing punches, Thomas tried to jab Holyfield but Holyfield was too strong and walked through anything that came back at him
At the end of 7th Holyfield had Thomas hurt and sagging on the ropes battering him with lefts and rights but the bell saved him from getting KO'd, still the corner had seen enough and pulled their man
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 07 Jun 2020, 22:37
by Scypion
Gavilan-Bratton III
Just watched that fight on You Tube. Johnny Bratton was a good fighter and could hit(32 KO's). In 86 fights, Bratton was only stopped 3 times, so he had a good chin.
Bratton was welterweight champion (NBA version I think) winning that title after Ray Robinson had vacated the world welterweight title. His first defense was against Kid Gavilan, who had lost to Robinson in a 15 round decision for the Welterweight Championship in 1949.
Gavilan won their first fight for the title and in their 2nd bout, a non-title bout, they fought to a draw in Bratton's home town of Chicago. Gavilan should have gotten the decision IMO, but the Kid didn't seem to fight as hard in non-title fights. He still won as far as I am concerned.
The 3rd fight turned into a slaughter with Johnny Bratton taking a terrible beating. Why the fight wasn't stopped is a mystery to me. It should have been stopped in the 8th round when the Cuban Hawk seemed to land about 50 hard punches to Bratton's head.
Again, it is on You Tube, so if you want to see why Kid Gavilan is considered as great as he was, see it for yourself.
milpool wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 04:00
Micky Ward v Emanuel Augustus
This was an absolute slugfest. It had less skill than the Ward/Gatti trilogy, Augustus is no Arturo Gatti, but it was all action from begining to end.
Ward won a comfortable decision but the scoring was dubious to say the least. The commentators agreed that Ward probably shaded it, mainly due to the knockdown he scored in round 8, however, the 96-91 and 98-90 scorecards were scandalous. If you believe the compubox stats, Augustus was a lot busier and far more successful with shots landed but the fight was so frenetic it was difficult to see who was getting the upper hand.
Referee Steve Smoger rarely had to get involved and risked getting a couple of whacks himself when he had to prise them apart at the end of each round.
I didn't score the fight, but I might watch it again and score it. I did think that Augustus was the aggressor for the most part and probably suffered from a bit of home cooking. However, he didn't complain when the scores were read out.
Barnstormer of a fight!
Great fight could have went either way. I had Augustus winning. One scorecard was a disgrace
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 08 Jun 2020, 19:52
by oogiebe
Ike Ibeabuchi vs Chris Byrd.
Was in the mood for a slugger vs mover with decent action.
Notes: Should have put Byrd down for goofiest styles. So awkward to watch but elusive as hell. Ike had better feet than I remembered. Was able to square up every time Byrd ducked and moved away. Also consistantly kept his front foot outside Byrd's taking some of the usual issues away from fighting a southpaw. Ike finishing combos with Left hooks was very effective. Early on Ike was wildly missing big shots to the head, but by round 3 was really effective to the body and then the head by the end of the round. Ike was a really good fighter. Too bad he was a lunatic.
RD 1 - Even
RD 2 - Ike
RD 3 - Ike (really started to land the right)
RD4 - Ike
RD 5 - TKO. A hybrid left hook/uppercut almost took Byrd's head off. Fight stopped. Byrd argued, but it was a good stoppage.
These guys threw more punches in 5 rounds than an entire HW fight today. Fun watch.
Final Punchstats after the stoppage:
Ike: 91/289
Byrd: 84/208
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 09 Jun 2020, 13:25
by handsofstone
Evander Holyfield vs Michael Dokes
Holyfield KOs Dokes in the 10th of a non title Heavyweight scrap, good fight, Dokes had moments of success, sharp puncher especially the left hook to the body, Holyfield tough and game as ever got up close roughed Dokes up, drilled uppercuts up through the middle then nailed Dokes with hard left hooks on the follow up, some great action
By the 8th Dokes was tiring and although he was still dangerous, Holyfield was looking strong still then in the 10th out of nowhere, Holyfield rocked Dokes with a left uppercut, Holyfield followed up and Dokes tried to fight his way out of trouble, Holyfield banged him with another hard left and as Dokes bounced off the ropes a massive right from Holyfield dropped Dokes to the canvas as the ref stopped it
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 09 Jun 2020, 16:36
by elmersalsa
handsofstone wrote: ↑09 Jun 2020, 13:25
Evander Holyfield vs Michael Dokes
Holyfield KOs Dokes in the 10th of a non title Heavyweight scrap, good fight, Dokes had moments of success, sharp puncher especially the left hook to the body, Holyfield tough and game as ever got up close roughed Dokes up, drilled uppercuts up through the middle then nailed Dokes with hard left hooks on the follow up, some great action
By the 8th Dokes was tiring and although he was still dangerous, Holyfield was looking strong still then in the 10th out of nowhere, Holyfield rocked Dokes with a left uppercut, Holyfield followed up and Dokes tried to fight his way out of trouble, Holyfield banged him with another hard left and as Dokes bounced off the ropes a massive right from Holyfield dropped Dokes to the canvas as the ref stopped it
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That fight was the fight that made me believe in the great Evander Holyfield if he was about to fight the great Mike Tyson in 1990 or 1991. He showed lots of grit, heart and determination.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 10 Jun 2020, 03:48
by AntonioMartin
Ricardo Lopez title winning effort versus Ohashi (I think)...Japanese very brave and determined but Lopez gave a boxing lesson.
And Callejas-Stecca 2..great fight, Stecca was winning until Luvi scored one of the greatest knockouts in history in round six.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 03:51
by handsofstone
Evander Holyfield vs Bert Cooper
Holyfield stops Cooper in 7 to retain his World Heavyweight title, excellent scrap, both men down, plenty exchanges where both men just stood toe to toe and slugged away landing bombs on each other, Holyfield had Cooper down in the 1st from a left to the body but in the 3rd Cooper had Holyfield down for the first time in his career, rocked him with a huge right then a barrage follow up had Holyfield collapsing into the ropes, he got up though and by the end of the round was teeing off on Cooper
Holyfield had Cooper reeling again in the 5th but his tape came loose and it was nearly 2 minutes before it was fixed letting Cooper off the hook, Cooper was still dangerous and catching Holyfield flush but Holyfield was landing more , especially the right uppercuts ,time and again he nailed Cooper clean with big shots, Cooper showed insane chin to stay on his feet
It got too much in the 7th for Cooper though, another barrage from Holyfield had him reeling again and he was taking too many clean punches, again the uppercuts nearly taking Cooper's head clean off, the ref seen enough and stepped in to save Cooper from getting badly hurt, incredible fight, pure war
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 09:04
by handsofstone
Evander Holyfield vs Michael Moorer 1+2
Moorer beats Holyfield by close MD to become World Heavyweight champion, deserved win for Moorer who outboxed Holyfield from the outside, landing sharp southpaw jabs and straight lefts to the body, he hurt Holyfield a couple times downstairs and had him backing up, Holyfield looked flat, wasn't as tenacious as usual, he tried to outbox Moorer but took too long to get his punches off, he did deck Moorer in round 2 with a right hand/left hook but after that he looked flat and gassed by midway point as Moorer continued to work him up and down
Moorer faded late and Holyfield finished strong down the stretch, working in bursts to rough Moorer up close, Moorer had a good 12th though to seal the deal
Holyfield stops Moorer after 8 rounds in the rematch to unify the Heavyweight titles putting him down 5 times, after a competitive first few rounds Holyfield took over and was landing some big shots which were visibly hurting Moorer, he had Moorer down in the 5th, a left hook then a right hand smashed into Moorer's face sending to the canvas, in the 7th a Holyfield right uppercut had Moorer down then a left right had him down for second time in the round, Moorer was on borrowed time and after Holyfield had him down twice more in the 8th from combinations, Moorer was pulled out before the 9th
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 14:05
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Toney v peter 1
Great fight. Toney countering as always but old enough he was getting hit with peters clubbing shots
I thought toney won this. It was his last hurrah as he was ruined after this one.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 15:00
by PredatorHayds
Curtis Cokes - Jose Napoles first fight.
A changing of the guard at Welterweight.
Napoles was outstanding and controlled the fight throughout.
I do think this version of Napoles gives every Welterweight in History a fight.
He made Cokes look ordinary.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 15:34
by Counter-puncher
PredatorHayds wrote: ↑13 Jun 2020, 15:00
I do think this version of Napoles gives every Welterweight in History a fight..
Indeed
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 03:59
by Woldemar
James Shuler vs Sugar Ray Seales
Very good fight.Shuler outwork,outbox Seales and got unanimous decision.Shuler's work in the ring was good.Hard punches, changing racks from
right-handed to left-
handed,speed and footwork.Seales showed durability.His chin withstood many hard punches.
Re: Classic fights I've watched recently
Posted: 17 Jun 2020, 03:14
by handsofstone
Evander Holyfield vs Ray Mercer
Holyfield pounds out a 10 round UD over Mercer in a non title Heavyweight contest, wasnt a great fight to watch, most of the fight fought on the outside and it was a battle of the jabs mainly, Holyfield started off quicker and was picking up the first few rounds against flat footed Mercer but in the middle rounds Mercer began to get on his toes and get on his own jab clawing things back, it was an even fight when in the 8th Holyfield put Mercer down with a left hook, caught him sweet, delayed reaction before Mercer took a knee, another left from Holyfield helped Mercer on his way, this seemed to spark Holyfield and help him cruise to the finish to get a points win