Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Randyman]

Roberto Clemente

What a great piece of work as well as a great ballplayer.

Rog, I'm really looking forward to your exhibit this year at the hall of fame. All your pals here are proud of you!

Randy

[Rick Farris]

This photo was sent to me by one of my cousins that I "discovered" while researching our family tree. Actually, we discovered each other on a message board similar to this one but geared for genealogy. She recently came into possession of this photo and sent it to me. I cannot describe how important this photograph is to me. I find it unbelievable. I thought that I would never see a photo of my greatgrandfather. I had already seen one photo each of my great grandmother and my great aunt Gregoria but I thought a photo of Rafael would elude me forever. This is monumental to me.

The photo is of my great Grandparents Rafael and Margarita De La O with their daughter, Gregoria. I'm just guessing but this photo was probably taken at the old Rancho De La O, in Dona Ana, New Mexico, which the family was still in possession of at the time. Rafael De la O was born in 1840 and passed away on March 19, 1914.

Randy

Amazing family history, Randy.
I love this kind of thing.

-Rick

[Rick Farris]

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[raylawpc]

This photo was sent to me by one of my cousins that I "discovered" while researching our family tree. Actually, we discovered each other on a message board similar to this one but geared for genealogy. She recently came into possession of this photo and sent it to me. I cannot describe how important this photograph is to me. I find it unbelievable. I thought that I would never see a photo of my greatgrandfather. I had already seen one photo each of my great grandmother and my great aunt Gregoria but I thought a photo of Rafael would elude me forever. This is monumental to me.

The photo is of my great Grandparents Rafael and Margarita De La O with their daughter, Gregoria. I'm just guessing but this photo was probably taken at the old Rancho De La O, in Dona Ana, New Mexico, which the family was still in possession of at the time. Rafael De la O was born in 1840 and passed away on March 19, 1914.

Randy

Amazing family history, Randy.
I love this kind of thing.

-Rick

That's a cool picture. In recent years, I've picked up some photos like that, including a "tin type" of my great-great grandmother and her second husband, circa 1870 in Kentucky.

[kikibalt]

One new thing we're doing at the Golden State Boxer's weekly luncheon's is show videos of old fights.

[kikibalt]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. involve in a shooting?
August 24, 2009 by Edgar Gonzalez

Police in Las Vegas say they’re searching boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s Rolls-Royce at his home after witnesses reported it was involved in a shooting outside an ice skating rink.

Lt. Patrick Charoen said Monday that police obtained a warrant to search the vehicle at one of Mayweather’s Las Vegas-area homes after the shooting late Sunday night outside the Crystal Palace Skating Center.

Charoen (shar OHN’) says no one was hurt in the shooting, but a vehicle was hit with several bullets between 10 p.m. and 11 p.m.

Mayweather isn’t named as a suspect. Charoen says witnesses only identified his vehicle, which drove away.

The 32-year-old Mayweather is scheduled to fight a welterweight bout Sept. 19 against Juan Manuel Marquez.

[Rick Farris]

Woody Winslow . . .

While doing some research on the late trainer, Duke Holloway (whom many of us knew personally), I discovered a boxer he trained during the 1950's, Woody Winslow.
I knew that Duke had worked with Joe Louis briefly after WW2, and Harold Dade, among others. However, when I saw the name Woody Winslow, it was for the first time.

I had to investigate, and I found that Winslow started out in N.Y. in the 40's and eventually worked himself West.
In his last bout, in 1960, he lost a majority decision to middleweight contender, Joey Giambra.
I also discovered he dropped a ten rounder to Art Aragon at the San Diego Coliseum in 1957.
He fought Charley "Tombstone" Smith at the Olympic.

As I looked thru his career record in reverse, I was checking to see if he had fought at the Hollywood Legion Stadium during his career, specificly the late 40's-mid 50's.
I believe it was in 1952, the year I was born, Woody Winslow fought Charley Sawyer at the Legion. Hap Navarro must have made the match.

Hap, or Frank, do you remember Woody Winslow?


-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

One new thing we're doing at the Golden State Boxer's weekly luncheon's is show videos of old fights.

Frank . . . I don't go into work tomorrow until mid-afternoon. I'll try to make it.


-Rick

[Rick Farris]

Woody Winslow

division middleweight
nationality United States
alias Winslow Woodard
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
won 21 (KO 10) + lost 34 (KO 14) + drawn 9 = 65
rounds boxed 382 : KO% 15.38


1960-01-19 162 Joey Giambra 159 57-5-2
Memorial Auditorium, Fresno, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Frank Manfredo 92-99 | judge: Johnny Reno 92-99 | judge: Pete Morelli 93-99 ~

1959-05-04 158 Dave Johnson 158¼ 21-5-5
Fairground Exhibition Hall, Merced, California, United States D PTS 10 10
1959-03-02 155 Willie Moon 160 1-10-1
Fairground, Merced, California, United States W KO 1 10
1958-04-26 Jimmy Martinez 85-30-10
San Diego, California, United States L PTS 10 10
1958-04-11 Karl Heinz Guder 22-6-1
San Diego, California, United States D PTS 10 10
1958-01-21 Paulo De Jesus 26-2-1
Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo, Brazil L DQ 4
1957-12-20 155 Art Aragon 154 76-16-5
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States L PTS 10 10
~ referee: Dick Young 87-100 ~

1957-11-29 Carlton Lincoln 12-5-0
Portland, Oregon, United States L PTS 6 6
1957-09-09 Ramon Hernandez 9-3-0
Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1956-10-22 158½ Eusebio Hernandez 157½ 46-23-5
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico L KO 5 10
1956-01-05 154 Charley 'Tombstone' Smith 149½ 12-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 52-58 | judge: Jack McDonald 52-58 | judge: Reggie Gilmore 51½-58½ ~

1955-10-27 149½ Art Aragon 151 67-16-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 10 10
~ time: 0:28 | referee: Dynamite Jackson ~
Winslow was knocked down once in the 9th and 10th round.

1955-09-03 146 Don Jordan 144 21-3-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore 51½-58½ | judge: Russ Bradford 52½-57½ | judge: Charley Randolph 54-56 ~
Winslow was knocked down in the 8th round.

1955-08-18 151 Ramon Tiscareno 146½ 46-10-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 3 10
~ time: 2:28 | referee: Lee Grossman ~
Tiscareno was knocked down six times in the 3rd round.

1955-05-05 160 Don Jose 158 5-1-0
Ryan's Auditorium, Fresno, California, United States D PTS 8 8
~ referee: Frank Manfredo ~

1955-01-25 161½ Sonny Gill 154½ 16-1-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States L TKO 7 10
~ time: 2:42 | referee: Tommy Hart ~

1954-12-04 162½ Petey Servin 161½ 30-23-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 8 10
~ time: 2:14 | referee: Mushy Callahan ~
Winslow was knocked down twice in the 7th, and once in the 8th round.

1954-08-07 158 Harvey Taylor 161¾ 13-2-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 6 6
1954-06-26 158 Bob Ross 158 6-3-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 6 6
1954-02-11 151½ Lou Gage 152 7-1-0
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States L PTS 6 6
Winslow was knocked down twice in the 1st round.

1953-12-08 Reno Abellira 12-2-0
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L KO 8 10
~ time: 2:08 ~

1953-09-21 149 Vinnie DeCarlo 151¼ 17-5-0
Arena, South Gate, California, United States L KO 2 10
~ referee: Tommy Hart ~

1953-08-25 152 Eddie Williams 150 28-18-6
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
Williams was knocked down in the 5th round.

1953-07-06 147 Oscar Reyes 147¾ 20-8-5
Arena, South Gate, California, United States L UD 10 10
Winslow was knocked down for an eight-count in the 7th round.

1953-05-26 Ernie Dickson 14-13-4
Civic Auditorium, Stockton, California, United States W KO 3
1953-03-17 Edgar Jones 4-9-1
Stockton, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1952-08-06 151 Jimmy McCoy 14-4-0
Municipal Auditorium, Eureka, California, United States W TKO 4 8
Bout stopped due a badly cut eye suffered by McCoy.

1952-05-03 146 Charlie Sawyer 147 13-4-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 6 6
1952-04-21 Ernie Greer 14-10-9
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1952-04-14 148 Earl Turner 154½ 52-26-10
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States W TKO 5 8
1952-03-25 Joe Gonzales 7-5-5
San Jose, California, United States W PTS 8 8
1952-03-18 Sonny Green 1-2-0
Stockton, California, United States L KO 6
1952-02-26 Sonny Green 1-1-0
Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1952-02-16 151 Ernie Greer 145 13-10-7
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States D PTS 6 6
1951-09-18 147½ Clifton Lester 148 31-21-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 2 6
1951-05-14 Rudy Martinez 9-5-0
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1950-11-13 Ernie Greer 10-4-4
Eureka, California, United States W KO 2
1950-10-30 145 Bob Burgess 144 20-14-15
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States D PTS 6 6
1950-03-29 143 Junius Washington 146½ 7-1-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L TKO 4 6
~ referee: Frankie Carter ~

1950-03-08 143 Junius Washington 147 7-1-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States NC ND 4 8
~ referee: Jack Downey ~
Both boxers were thrown out of the ring for stalling.

1949-12-20 Nick Diaz 20-10-4
Merced, California, United States W PTS 10 10
1949-11-01 144 Dick Wolfe 148 15-9-8
Auditorium, Portland, Oregon, United States L PTS 10 10
1949-09-07 Bob Burgess 16-14-14
Fresno, California, United States D PTS 10 10
1949-01-24 135½ Ray Lewis 141 28-6-2
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States D PTS 8 8
1948-11-04 142 Benny Black 148 18-0-1
Ryan's Auditorium, Fresno, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1948-10-25 Dave Linder 2-3-0
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1948-10-21 145 Dick Lee 147 8-6-2
Ryan's Auditorium, Fresno, California, United States W TKO 3 6
~ time: 2:55 | referee: Frank Manfredo ~

1948-09-21 Lawrence Brown 19-20-4
Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 6 6
1948-07-20 139 Jimmy Carter 133 32-6-5
Jerome Stadium, Bronx, New York, United States D PTS 8 8
"..Carter..appeared to have outfought his heavier borough rival.." (, October 1948, page 41)

1948-07-06 141 Tommy Mills 141½ 32-52-4
MacArthur Stadium, Brooklyn, New York, United States W KO 4 6
1947-06-20 139 Ernest Dennis 141 2-0-0
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States L PTS 4 4
1947-04-19 Eli DeLoach 14-9-0
Ridgewood Grove, Brooklyn, New York, United States D PTS 6 6
1947-03-25 138 Willard Hogan 141 15-2-3
Westchester County Center, White Plains, New York, United States L PTS 6 6
1947-02-25 139 Ross Anzalone 139 11-1-0
Park Arena, Bronx, New York, United States W PTS 6 6
1946-08-12 139½ Frankie Palermo 135½ 12-3-0
Sterling Oval, Bronx, New York, United States L PTS 6 6
Billed as Woody Windsor. New York Times

1946-07-30 136½ Tony LaRocca 139½ 10-0-0
Dexter Park Arena, Woodhaven, Queens, New York, United States L KO 3 6
1946-07-16 138 Charlie Kid Grant 143 2-15-2
Dexter Park Arena, Woodhaven, Queens, New York, United States W PTS 4 4
1946-02-05 138½ Walter Stevens 140 27-3-0
Park Arena, Bronx, New York, United States L KO 4 6
1946-01-25 138 Joey Carkido 137 18-1-0
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States L KO 1 6
~ time: 1:51 ~

1946-01-21 139 Al Baltieri 144 13-6-0
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States W KO 1 4
1946-01-14 140½ Jasper O'Hanley 144½ 1-1-0
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States W KO 3 4
~ time: 2:06 ~

1945-12-18 142 Johnny Vann 141½
Broadway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States L KO 4 4
~ time: 2:13 ~

1945-12-10 Mike DeCosmo 1-3-0
Laurel Garden, Newark, New Jersey, United States L KO 1
1945-07-24 Billy Hurd 6-3-4
Union City, New Jersey, United States L PTS 6 6
1944-09-05 Nick Restano 3-3-2
Roosevelt Stadium, Union City, New Jersey, United States L PTS 4 4

[kikibalt]

Woody Winslow . . .

While doing some research on the late trainer, Duke Holloway (whom many of us knew personally), I discovered a boxer he trained during the 1950's, Woody Winslow.
I knew that Duke had worked with Joe Louis briefly after WW2, and Harold Dade, among others. However, when I saw the name Woody Winslow, it was for the first time.

I had to investigate, and I found that Winslow started out in N.Y. in the 40's and eventually worked himself West.
In his last bout, in 1960, he lost a majority decision to middleweight contender, Joey Giambra.
I also discovered he dropped a ten rounder to Art Aragon at the San Diego Coliseum in 1957.
He fought Charley "Tombstone" Smith at the Olympic.

As I looked thru his career record in reverse, I was checking to see if he had fought at the Hollywood Legion Stadium during his career, specificly the late 40's-mid 50's.
I believe it was in 1952, the year I was born, Woody Winslow fought Charley Sawyer at the Legion. Hap Navarro must have made the match.

Hap, or Frank, do you remember Woody Winslow?


-Rick Farris

Rick, I do remember Woody Winslow, seen him fight a few times, don't remember much about his fights though.

[kikibalt]

One new thing we're doing at the Golden State Boxer's weekly luncheon's is show videos of old fights.

Frank . . . I don't go into work tomorrow until mid-afternoon. I'll try to make it.


-Rick

Good!

[kikibalt]

Woody Winslow

division middleweight
nationality United States
alias Winslow Woodard
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
won 21 (KO 10) + lost 34 (KO 14) + drawn 9 = 65
rounds boxed 382 : KO% 15.38


1960-01-19 162 Joey Giambra 159 57-5-2
Memorial Auditorium, Fresno, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Frank Manfredo 92-99 | judge: Johnny Reno 92-99 | judge: Pete Morelli 93-99 ~

1959-05-04 158 Dave Johnson 158¼ 21-5-5
Fairground Exhibition Hall, Merced, California, United States D PTS 10 10

1959-03-02 155 Willie Moon 160 1-10-1
Fairground, Merced, California, United States W KO 1 10

1958-04-26 Jimmy Martinez 85-30-10
San Diego, California, United States L PTS 10 10

1958-04-11 Karl Heinz Guder 22-6-1
San Diego, California, United States D PTS 10 10

1958-01-21 Paulo De Jesus 26-2-1
Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo, Brazil L DQ 4

1957-12-20 155 Art Aragon 154 76-16-5
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States L PTS 10 10
~ referee: Dick Young 87-100 ~

1957-11-29 Carlton Lincoln 12-5-0
Portland, Oregon, United States L PTS 6 6

1957-09-09 Ramon Hernandez 9-3-0
Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico L PTS 10 10

1956-10-22 158½ Eusebio Hernandez 157½ 46-23-5
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico L KO 5 10

1956-01-05 154 Charley 'Tombstone' Smith 149½ 12-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 52-58 | judge: Jack McDonald 52-58 | judge: Reggie Gilmore 51½-58½ ~

1955-10-27 149½ Art Aragon 151 67-16-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 10 10
~ time: 0:28 | referee: Dynamite Jackson ~
Winslow was knocked down once in the 9th and 10th round.

1955-09-03 146 Don Jordan 144 21-3-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore 51½-58½ | judge: Russ Bradford 52½-57½ | judge: Charley Randolph 54-56 ~
Winslow was knocked down in the 8th round.

1955-08-18 151 Ramon Tiscareno 146½ 46-10-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 3 10
~ time: 2:28 | referee: Lee Grossman ~
Tiscareno was knocked down six times in the 3rd round.

1955-05-05 160 Don Jose 158 5-1-0
Ryan's Auditorium, Fresno, California, United States D PTS 8 8
~ referee: Frank Manfredo ~

1955-01-25 161½ Sonny Gill 154½ 16-1-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States L TKO 7 10
~ time: 2:42 | referee: Tommy Hart ~

1954-12-04 162½ Petey Servin 161½ 30-23-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 8 10
~ time: 2:14 | referee: Mushy Callahan ~
Winslow was knocked down twice in the 7th, and once in the 8th round.

1954-08-07 158 Harvey Taylor 161¾ 13-2-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 6 6

1954-06-26 158 Bob Ross 158 6-3-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 6 6

1954-02-11 151½ Lou Gage 152 7-1-0
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States L PTS 6 6
Winslow was knocked down twice in the 1st round.

1953-12-08 Reno Abellira 12-2-0
Honolulu, Hawaii, United States L KO 8 10
~ time: 2:08 ~

1953-09-21 149 Vinnie DeCarlo 151¼ 17-5-0
Arena, South Gate, California, United States L KO 2 10
~ referee: Tommy Hart ~

1953-08-25 152 Eddie Williams 150 28-18-6
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6
Williams was knocked down in the 5th round.

1953-07-06 147 Oscar Reyes 147¾ 20-8-5
Arena, South Gate, California, United States L UD 10 10
Winslow was knocked down for an eight-count in the 7th round.

1953-05-26 Ernie Dickson 14-13-4
Civic Auditorium, Stockton, California, United States W KO 3

1953-03-17 Edgar Jones 4-9-1
Stockton, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1952-08-06 151 Jimmy McCoy 14-4-0
Municipal Auditorium, Eureka, California, United States W TKO 4 8
Bout stopped due a badly cut eye suffered by McCoy.

1952-05-03 146 Charlie Sawyer 147 13-4-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 6 6

1952-04-21 Ernie Greer 14-10-9
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States L PTS 6 6

1952-04-14 148 Earl Turner 154½ 52-26-10
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States W TKO 5 8

1952-03-25 Joe Gonzales 7-5-5
San Jose, California, United States W PTS 8 8

1952-03-18 Sonny Green 1-2-0
Stockton, California, United States L KO 6

1952-02-26 Sonny Green 1-1-0
Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1952-02-16 151 Ernie Greer 145 13-10-7
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1951-09-18 147½ Clifton Lester 148 31-21-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 2 6

1951-05-14 Rudy Martinez 9-5-0
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States L PTS 6 6

1950-11-13 Ernie Greer 10-4-4
Eureka, California, United States W KO 2

1950-10-30 145 Bob Burgess 144 20-14-15
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States D PTS 6 6
1950-03-29 143 Junius Washington 146½ 7-1-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L TKO 4 6
~ referee: Frankie Carter ~

1950-03-08 143 Junius Washington 147 7-1-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States NC ND 4 8
~ referee: Jack Downey ~
Both boxers were thrown out of the ring for stalling.

1949-12-20 Nick Diaz 20-10-4
Merced, California, United States W PTS 10 10

1949-11-01 144 Dick Wolfe 148 15-9-8
Auditorium, Portland, Oregon, United States L PTS 10 10

1949-09-07 Bob Burgess 16-14-14
Fresno, California, United States D PTS 10 10

1949-01-24 135½ Ray Lewis 141 28-6-2
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States D PTS 8 8

1948-11-04 142 Benny Black 148 18-0-1
Ryan's Auditorium, Fresno, California, United States L PTS 6 6

1948-10-25 Dave Linder 2-3-0
Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1948-10-21 145 Dick Lee 147 8-6-2
Ryan's Auditorium, Fresno, California, United States W TKO 3 6
~ time: 2:55 | referee: Frank Manfredo ~

1948-09-21 Lawrence Brown 19-20-4
Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1948-07-20 139 Jimmy Carter 133 32-6-5
Jerome Stadium, Bronx, New York, United States D PTS 8 8
"..Carter..appeared to have outfought his heavier borough rival.." (, October 1948, page 41)

1948-07-06 141 Tommy Mills 141½ 32-52-4
MacArthur Stadium, Brooklyn, New York, United States W KO 4 6

1947-06-20 139 Ernest Dennis 141 2-0-0
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States L PTS 4 4

1947-04-19 Eli DeLoach 14-9-0
Ridgewood Grove, Brooklyn, New York, United States D PTS 6 6

1947-03-25 138 Willard Hogan 141 15-2-3
Westchester County Center, White Plains, New York, United States L PTS 6 6

1947-02-25 139 Ross Anzalone 139 11-1-0
Park Arena, Bronx, New York, United States W PTS 6 6

1946-08-12 139½ Frankie Palermo 135½ 12-3-0
Sterling Oval, Bronx, New York, United States L PTS 6 6
Billed as Woody Windsor. New York Times

1946-07-30 136½ Tony LaRocca 139½ 10-0-0
Dexter Park Arena, Woodhaven, Queens, New York, United States L KO 3 6

1946-07-16 138 Charlie Kid Grant 143 2-15-2
Dexter Park Arena, Woodhaven, Queens, New York, United States W PTS 4 4

1946-02-05 138½ Walter Stevens 140 27-3-0
Park Arena, Bronx, New York, United States L KO 4 6

1946-01-25 138 Joey Carkido 137 18-1-0
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States L KO 1 6
~ time: 1:51 ~

1946-01-21 139 Al Baltieri 144 13-6-0
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States W KO 1 4

1946-01-14 140½ Jasper O'Hanley 144½ 1-1-0
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States W KO 3 4
~ time: 2:06 ~

1945-12-18 142 Johnny Vann 141½
Broadway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States L KO 4 4
~ time: 2:13 ~

1945-12-10 Mike DeCosmo 1-3-0
Laurel Garden, Newark, New Jersey, United States L KO 1

1945-07-24 Billy Hurd 6-3-4
Union City, New Jersey, United States L PTS 6 6

1944-09-05 Nick Restano 3-3-2
Roosevelt Stadium, Union City, New Jersey, United States L PTS 4 4

[Dongee]

Rick:
I restarted Woody's ring career after he had been away for awhile. Good boxer, not a heavy hitter, but what impressed the most was his elaborate use of the English language. In fact, John Hall, writing for the LA Mirror, did a feature on his elocuent answer to a simple question I had asked him when I signed him for a fight. A good looker, talkative, and could fight some.

hap navarro

[Rick Farris]

Rick:
I restarted Woody's ring career after he had been away for awhile. Good boxer, not a heavy hitter, but what impressed the most was his elaborate use of the English language. In fact, John Hall, writing for the LA Mirror, did a feature on his elocuent answer to a simple question I had asked him when I signed him for a fight. A good looker, talkative, and could fight some.

hap navarro

Hap . . . Thanks for the great memory. I don't know why the name struck an interest, however, something told me an intersting tale might surface.
Great stuff about Winslow's elaborate use of Engish, the fact that you restarted his career, the John Hall story, etc. This is what I appreciate knowing.

To me, boxing and boxers are about more than jabs and hooks. And it's also about boxers from champs to prelim kids. They all played a part.
I know Woody Winslow was not a winning fighter, but he took some good guys the full route.
I fought in several of the same buildings he did. Different eras, same buildings, and a lot of the same people were still working corners, like Duke Holloway.


-Rick Farris

[kikibalt]

[kikibalt]

[Rick Farris]

Frank . . . Do you remember a guy who used to hang out around the Main Street Gym, maybe Teamsters (?).
He's been dead a long time, his name was Ralph Gutierrez. I don't know if he handled fighters, or what? But my dad told me he had some involvment.
I know that he was related to my father's wife, an uncle or something?

I used to see him once in awhile, but didn't know the guy. I saw he and my dad talk briefly.
Did you know him?


-Rick Farris

[kikibalt]

Frank . . . Do you remember a guy who used to hang out around the Main Street Gym, maybe Teamsters (?).
He's been dead a long time, his name was Ralph Gutierrez. I don't know if he handled fighters, or what? But my dad told me he had some involvment.
I know that he was related to my father's wife, an uncle or something?

I used to see him once in awhile, but didn't know the guy. I saw he and my dad talk briefly.
Did you know him?


-Rick Farris

Sure did Rick, he and Johnny Cabrera stole Frankie Duarte and Johnny Jensen from Louie J from the Teamsters, hell, they tried to steal me from Louie, wanted to book me a pro fight in Hawaii, I told them I didn't want to fight pro, that was just before I called it quits in 1964

[kikibalt]

[kikibalt]

Rick, Rafael Gutierrez handle by Martin Zuniga out of the Main St. Gym, did you know Zuniga?

[Rick Farris]

Frank . . . Do you remember a guy who used to hang out around the Main Street Gym, maybe Teamsters (?).
He's been dead a long time, his name was Ralph Gutierrez. I don't know if he handled fighters, or what? But my dad told me he had some involvment.
I know that he was related to my father's wife, an uncle or something?

I used to see him once in awhile, but didn't know the guy. I saw he and my dad talk briefly.
Did you know him?


-Rick Farris

Sure did Rick, he and Johnny Cabrera stole Frankie Duarte and Johnny Jensen from Louie J from the Teamsters, hell, they tried to steal me from Louie, wanted to book me a pro fight in Hawaii, I told them I didn't want to fight pro, that was just before I called it quits in 1964

My dad never said much about the guy, and didn't seem to know much.
I learned many years later that he was related to my father's wife.
I remember her saying that he was the "black sheep" of her mother's family.
She also said that her father, whose family name was Munoz, would not speak with him.
It seems as if he was a skeleton in the family closet.

Thanks for the heads-up.


-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

Rick, Rafael Gutierrez handle by Martin Zuniga out of the Main St. Gym, did you know Zuniga?

Frank . . I didn't know Martin Zuniga.
I do remember the former Mexican middleweight champ of the 60's, Rafael Gutierrez, who stopped my stablemate Bobby Rye in the first round.
However, that was years after the above Gutierrez fought.


-Rick Farris

[Dongee]

Frank and Rick:

Rafael Gutierrez was a fine looking prospect when he started boxing. I used him in the first show I put on for the Albquerque American Legion in 1952. He boxed the main event versis Glen Hendershot. The Hugh Carlisle Post had called our Legion office for guidance in promoting boxing and our Legion sent me out to do the job. I also provided the semi final bout on that card, driving in with the four fighters and my trainer, Chappie Tierno, all the way from LA.The show was a hit and the local Legionaires kept on showing on their own.

I believe it was Rafael's younger brother, Alvaro, who ended the ring career of Golden Boy Art Aragon around 1960. Hope this helps.

hao navarro

[kikibalt]

Frank and Rick:

Rafael Gutierrez was a fine looking prospect when he started boxing. I used him in the first show I put on for the Albquerque American Legion in 1952. He boxed the main event versis Glen Hendershot. The Hugh Carlisle Post had called our Legion office for guidance in promoting boxing and our Legion sent me out to do the job. I also provided the semi final bout on that card, driving in with the four fighters and my trainer, Chappie Tierno, all the way from LA.The show was a hit and the local Legionaires kept on showing on their own.

I believe it was Rafael's younger brother, Alvaro, who ended the ring career of Golden Boy Art Aragon around 1960. Hope this helps.

hao navarro

Thanks Hap, I didn't know Rafael G and Alvaro G were brothers. My wife and I were sitting ringside for the Aragon fight. Also seen Alvaro in a shoot'em down fight against L.C. Morgan.

[Rick Farris]

WBHOF updates . . .

Just got off the phone with Armando Muniz. We were discussing the the WBHOF's first annual "Johnny Flores Award", which will be awarded to our own Frank Baltazar this year.
We also discussed Roger Esty's Boxing Art exhibition which will take place in the autograph signing/memorabelia show, held between 10am-3pm. the day of the event.
Another discussion was focused on this year's Banquet of Champions Program.
Armando and I are in agreement that without a true museum, the annual event program is the only physical representative of the World Boxing Hall of Fame.
These programs are archived in three major institutions, including a Museum, between here and Washington D.C.
The program must not only be 100% correct in every aspect of history, but punctuaton, spelling, etc.
It must be a cut above the average, something special.
This year we're going showcase a great cover, another example of the Roger Esty art we have come to appreciate here.
I'm responsible for the history, and to make sure everything is correct with regard to "proof reading", I've enlisted the help of an attorney who is a former English teacher.
The proof-reader is our buddy, John Bardelli.

Aside form Roger's art exhibit, I am looking forward to spending a good evening with all my Boxrec friends.
And before that, we have the California HOF annual lunch next month.


-Rick Farris