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The whole situation pisses me off. GSP isnt going to return until the end of the year. GSP has no chance against either Jacare or Romero so they just have Bisping sit out for over a year. GSP isn't fighting any of the real top MWs including Anderson. By the time GSP or Bisping fight a legit contender the MW division would've been on ice for 2 years while the top 2 contenders will be 40. GSP will fight former LHW Bisping but refused the smaller Anderson because he was too big.

The rise of Conor and Bisping beating Rockhold are the worst thing to happen to MMA in a long time. Anybody who thinks this fight is a good thing for MMA is a fornicating moron.
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p4p1 wrote:The whole situation pisses me off. GSP isnt going to return until the end of the year. GSP has no chance against either Jacare or Romero so they just have Bisping sit out for over a year. GSP isn't fighting any of the real top MWs including Anderson. By the time GSP or Bisping fight a legit contender the MW division would've been on ice for 2 years while the top 2 contenders will be 40. GSP will fight former LHW Bisping but refused the smaller Anderson because he was too big.

The rise of Conor and Bisping beating Rockhold are the worst thing to happen to MMA in a long time. Anybody who thinks this fight is a good thing for MMA is a effing moron.
Agreed 100%... The LW and MW divisions are on freeze right now. Completely unfair.
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I'm glad gsp is coming back and he absolutely would have a chance against Romero or jacare.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm glad gsp is coming back and he absolutely would have a chance against Romero or jacare.
He or the UFC doesn't seem to think so. Otherwise they wouldn't be keeping Bisping on ice until the end of the year.

I'm happy to see the GSP back but not at the expense of those who have clearly earned there shot but we're already passed over for an embarrassing opponent.
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Impractical Poster wrote:
p4p1 wrote:The whole situation pisses me off. GSP isnt going to return until the end of the year. GSP has no chance against either Jacare or Romero so they just have Bisping sit out for over a year. GSP isn't fighting any of the real top MWs including Anderson. By the time GSP or Bisping fight a legit contender the MW division would've been on ice for 2 years while the top 2 contenders will be 40. GSP will fight former LHW Bisping but refused the smaller Anderson because he was too big.

The rise of Conor and Bisping beating Rockhold are the worst thing to happen to MMA in a long time. Anybody who thinks this fight is a good thing for MMA is a effing moron.
Agreed 100%... The LW and MW divisions are on freeze right now. Completely unfair.
Don't forget that the FW division was on ice for over a year as well.
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p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm glad gsp is coming back and he absolutely would have a chance against Romero or jacare.
He or the UFC doesn't seem to think so. Otherwise they wouldn't be keeping Bisping on ice until the end of the year.

I'm happy to see the GSP back but not at the expense of those who have clearly earned there shot but we're already passed over for an embarrassing opponent.
Bisping is a much bigger fight financially. That's why he'll be on ice. The other fights would be totally carried by gsp and obviously tougher match ups.Anybody who considers Dan Henderson an embarrassment should be arrested.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I'm glad gsp is coming back and he absolutely would have a chance against Romero or jacare.
He or the UFC doesn't seem to think so. Otherwise they wouldn't be keeping Bisping on ice until the end of the year.

I'm happy to see the GSP back but not at the expense of those who have clearly earned there shot but we're already passed over for an embarrassing opponent.
Bisping is a much bigger fight financially. That's why he'll be on ice. The other fights would be totally carried by gsp and obviously tougher match ups.
But it's bad for the sport, the thing that separated MMA from boxing was the best fighting the best all the time but it's not been happening lately. Just like Hendo getting his shot was bad for the sport so is this. If it was a GSP/Anderson/Jones/Aldo situation where he had cleaned out the division then sure. But he hasn't fought the top 5 guys in his division and I haven't met any fans that believe he could beat those 4-5 guys. I think GSP is going to struggle with Bisping TBH, he's bigger has great movement and TDD and endless cardio.

Hendo getting a shot over Romero(who's on one of the most impressive runs in MW history)or Jacare when he was 46 and 3-6 in his last 9 is an embarrassment no matter which way you slice it.
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Nothing was bad about hendo getting his shot. Great for him, great fight, great for the sport. Two in a row is something you can complain about. With one title, there will be waits and with a 4 billion dollar sale you're absolutely going to have to deal with gsp and his ilk getting their shots. It's at least 5 times more profitable. I care about good fights, most everything you bitch about fits that criteria so we'll never agree.
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Bisping and Hendo had plenty of time to have their rematch but waited until the worst time. Bisping knew he wasn't getting past Jacare, Romero, Weidman or Rockhold(again) so pushed the UFC for what should have been a gimme. It was a good fight but the UFC champion went life and death with a 46 year old man who's on a real slide since his steriods got taken away from him. Which to me is just all the more reason for Bisping to keep ducking real contenders. I don't care if champions take fights like this but it's totally ridiculous when there are guys who are on serious tears aren't getting their shots.
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A steroids crack? While campaigning for Romero? Lmao. Bisping/hendo might be the best middleweight title fight in UFC history. That's never bad.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:A steroids crack? While campaigning for Romero? Lmao. Bisping/hendo might be the best middleweight title fight in UFC history. That's never bad.
Romero was essentially proved innocent by USADA as tests on supplements he was taking proved to have sterioids in them but weren't mentioned on the product information. He also never popped while he was having full Olympic testing. Hardly the same as getting a bullshit exemption so you can inject yourself. Something he had used all the way back to his pride days.

Bisping vs Romero would've been just as good except Romero would've been able to follow up and finish Bisping.
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:lol:
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote::lol:
Is there something i said that was wrong? Nope everything I stated is correct. This is your standard reply when you've got nothing.
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p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote::lol:
Is there something i said that was wrong? Nope everything I stated is correct. This is your standard reply when you've got nothing.
You said Romero/bisping would be just as good. I can't call it wrong buti find it extremely unlikely and it made me laugh. It's my standard response when I find something funny or not worth arguing. It's whatever, keep complaining.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote::lol:
Is there something i said that was wrong? Nope everything I stated is correct. This is your standard reply when you've got nothing.
You said Romero/bisping would be just as good. I can't call it wrong buti find it extremely unlikely and it made me laugh. It's my standard response when I find something funny or not worth arguing. It's whatever, keep complaining.
The only reason why Romero wouldn't have been as good of a fight is when he hit Bisping he would actually be able to finish him. Otherwise it would've more or less been a similar fight Bisping using activity and Romero like Hendo looking for one big shot.
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Well I say it would've been the same except for the fact Romero is better everywhere than Hendo is or ever was.
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Yeah, a first round blowout is always as good as a 5 round war. :roll:
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Of course, you're so all over the place now you've covered everything but saying you're wrong. And lmao that Romero is better than hendo.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Of course, you're so all over the place now you've covered everything but saying you're wrong. And lmao that Romero is better than hendo.
Name one area where Hendo is or ever was better than Romero it's certainly not in striking or wrestling.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yeah, a first round blowout is always as good as a 5 round war. :roll:
It's always fun to see Bisping finished the guys a piece of shit.

Even then why the fornicate is there title fights between guys who aren't the best or even top 4 in the division?
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p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Of course, you're so all over the place now you've covered everything but saying you're wrong. And lmao that Romero is better than hendo.
Name one area where Hendo is or ever was better than Romero it's certainly not in striking or wrestling.
Punching power, stamina, heart. Romero has far superior athleticism, that's his only clear advantage.
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p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yeah, a first round blowout is always as good as a 5 round war. :roll:
It's always fun to see Bisping finished the guys a piece of poo.

Even then why the eff is there title fights between guys who aren't the best or even top 4 in the division?
:lol:
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Of course, you're so all over the place now you've covered everything but saying you're wrong. And lmao that Romero is better than hendo.
Name one area where Hendo is or ever was better than Romero it's certainly not in striking or wrestling.
Punching power, stamina, heart. Romero has far superior athleticism, that's his only clear advantage.
Punching power? Stamina sure, heart is totally unknown Romero has never been in a war likely because everyone he catches clean goes to sleep. Punching power is a wash there's really no way to seperate them most guys they hit clean take a nap. That leaves Hendo with better stamina compared to Yoel better wrestling and punching power.
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p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote: Name one area where Hendo is or ever was better than Romero it's certainly not in striking or wrestling.
Punching power, stamina, heart. Romero has far superior athleticism, that's his only clear advantage.
Punching power? Stamina sure, heart is totally unknown Romero has never been in a war likely because everyone he catches clean goes to sleep. Punching power is a wash there's really no way to seperate them most guys they hit clean take a nap. That leaves Hendo with better stamina compared to Yoel better wrestling and punching power.
Yes, punching power. So everything I've refuted/laughed at has been correct.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Punching power, stamina, heart. Romero has far superior athleticism, that's his only clear advantage.
Punching power? Stamina sure, heart is totally unknown Romero has never been in a war likely because everyone he catches clean goes to sleep. Punching power is a wash there's really no way to seperate them most guys they hit clean take a nap. That leaves Hendo with better stamina compared to Yoel better wrestling and punching power.
Yes, punching power. So everything I've refuted/laughed at has been correct.
And how do you know Hendo punches harder?
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