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fury obviously looked much better on their last showings, but who knows what might happen between now and whenever this fight happens (if it ever does)

that said, fury has more to work with and on recent form you gotta favour him

The battle of the 2 men who can't beat Usyk.

It's still interesting, even if it's somewhere between 5 - 8 years too late.

The only thing is, once they've had the inevitable rematch and possible 3rd fight, what next?

Would anybody be interested in seeing these two against Usyk again?

Syntax Error wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 01:44 The battle of the 2 men who can't beat Usyk.

It's still interesting, even if it's somewhere between 5 - 8 years too late.

The only thing is, once they've had the inevitable rematch and possible 3rd fight, what next?

Would anybody be interested in seeing these two against Usyk again?

No interest in seeing either of them lose to Usyk again. There will be interest in their fight but I'm not really interested. Both coming for a payday now and who cares who wins when Usyk has beaten both of them twice each.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Dec 2024, 20:19 I mean I still wanna see this..

Darn right!
Still a good fight if Fury doesn't blow out.
Amazing how long we have had to wait, and yet I want it.
I can't say the same for Benn/Eubank or the Khan/Brook fight, but this one....

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 01:51

Syntax Error wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 01:44 The battle of the 2 men who can't beat Usyk.

It's still interesting, even if it's somewhere between 5 - 8 years too late.

The only thing is, once they've had the inevitable rematch and possible 3rd fight, what next?

Would anybody be interested in seeing these two against Usyk again?

No interest in seeing either of them lose to Usyk again. There will be interest in their fight but I'm not really interested. Both coming for a payday now and who cares who wins when Usyk has beaten both of them twice each.

Benn and Eubank are still household names whereas Steve Collins is long forgotten.

I think AJ would knock Fury out.

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 04:32 I think AJ would knock Fury out.

Gosh, I think the opposite.
The Fury that showed up against Uysk would beat everyone except Uysk.

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 04:32 I think AJ would knock Fury out.

Me too.

Fury clearly the more naturally gifted, but I feel AJ only needs to land once on Fury to end it.

Eddie and fWank will be doing and saying anything and everything to sell us Fury v AJ next year.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 04:55

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 04:32 I think AJ would knock Fury out.

Gosh, I think the opposite.
The Fury that showed up against Uysk would beat everyone except Uysk.

I agree , AJ just seems more chinny and does'nt want to pull the trigger , a motivated Tyson Fury will go for him and i think stop AJ

coneye wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:28

KiwiRider wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 04:55

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 04:32 I think AJ would knock Fury out.

Gosh, I think the opposite.
The Fury that showed up against Uysk would beat everyone except Uysk.

I agree , AJ just seems more chinny and does'nt want to pull the trigger , a motivated Tyson Fury will go for him and i think stop AJ

Fury is still very good just a bit behind Usyk I think he'll stop AJ fairly easily

I would heavily favour Fury, but AJ can turn a fight with one punch. If he lands clean, it's game on.

Everything in Riyadh Season is realistic.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:44

coneye wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:28

KiwiRider wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 04:55

Gosh, I think the opposite.
The Fury that showed up against Uysk would beat everyone except Uysk.

I agree , AJ just seems more chinny and does'nt want to pull the trigger , a motivated Tyson Fury will go for him and i think stop AJ

Fury is still very good just a bit behind Usyk I think he'll stop AJ fairly easily

When was the last time Fury looked good? Wilder 2? He was gun shy last night and terrified of getting hit. Maybe his chin is gone. I thought he lost vs Ngannu for crying out loud and the shot that dropped him wasn't even worth much. Usyk had no trouble getting punches home last night either.

AJ is rubbish but the guy has massive power and hits clean as a whistle, he'd put Fury's lights out.

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 08:33

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:44

coneye wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:28

I agree , AJ just seems more chinny and does'nt want to pull the trigger , a motivated Tyson Fury will go for him and i think stop AJ

Fury is still very good just a bit behind Usyk I think he'll stop AJ fairly easily

When was the last time Fury looked good? Wilder 2? He was gun shy last night and terrified of getting hit. Maybe his chin is gone. I thought he lost vs Ngannu for crying out loud and the shot that dropped him wasn't even worth much. Usyk had no trouble getting punches home last night either.

AJ is rubbish but the guy has massive power and hits clean as a whistle, he'd put Fury's lights out.

He lost both fights with Usyk but still won some rounds so it's not like he's finished at all, he's just never gonna bear Usyk, AJ has great power but his head has completely gone IMO, can't see him living with any top fighter these days.

This is still a massive fight. Bring it on (in the UK).

It's a big fight, it's a money maker, I still think Fury is clearly the second best on the planet

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 09:05

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 08:33

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:44
Fury is still very good just a bit behind Usyk I think he'll stop AJ fairly easily

When was the last time Fury looked good? Wilder 2? He was gun shy last night and terrified of getting hit. Maybe his chin is gone. I thought he lost vs Ngannu for crying out loud and the shot that dropped him wasn't even worth much. Usyk had no trouble getting punches home last night either.

AJ is rubbish but the guy has massive power and hits clean as a whistle, he'd put Fury's lights out.

He lost both fights with Usyk but still won some rounds so it's not like he's finished at all, he's just never gonna bear Usyk, AJ has great power but his head has completely gone IMO, can't see him living with any top fighter these days.

Fury simply couldn`t handle the strength of Ngannou, even Usyk didnt look out-muscled at any point.
AJ will possibly be the strongest and biggest hitting guy Fury will have faced. Yes Fury may be able to tie and mess AJ about for a 12rnd decision, but Fury is quite easy to hit nowadays and looks more fragile taking big shots - as the novice Ngannou showed - so AJ would probably be all wrong for Fury.

Its a fight that is a good few years too late, but like the Pacman vs Mayweather, it still has intrigue.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 09:05

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 08:33

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 05:44
Fury is still very good just a bit behind Usyk I think he'll stop AJ fairly easily

When was the last time Fury looked good? Wilder 2? He was gun shy last night and terrified of getting hit. Maybe his chin is gone. I thought he lost vs Ngannu for crying out loud and the shot that dropped him wasn't even worth much. Usyk had no trouble getting punches home last night either.

AJ is rubbish but the guy has massive power and hits clean as a whistle, he'd put Fury's lights out.

He lost both fights with Usyk but still won some rounds so it's not like he's finished at all, he's just never gonna bear Usyk, AJ has great power but his head has completely gone IMO, can't see him living with any top fighter these days.

You could be talking about either Joshua or Fury there but you are deciding that it only applies positively to Fury while no doubt it's negative for Joshua.

Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 10:31 It's a big fight, it's a money maker, I still think Fury is clearly the second best on the planet

I do too, but both he and Usyk are knocking on.
Fury peaked for me around the time of Chis 2/Hammer/Wlad. Usyk peaked versus Breidis/Gassiev/Bellew, who were all peak then too.


Re Josh: it's definitely a compelling fight. For me more than ever. I always had Tyson well clear of Joshua and wasn't as interested as most, but with his feet slowing down a bit, it's a very exciting fight now. Fury has nothing like the dig of Dubois. It would be a war.

joshj909 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 10:41

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 09:05

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 08:33


When was the last time Fury looked good? Wilder 2? He was gun shy last night and terrified of getting hit. Maybe his chin is gone. I thought he lost vs Ngannu for crying out loud and the shot that dropped him wasn't even worth much. Usyk had no trouble getting punches home last night either.

AJ is rubbish but the guy has massive power and hits clean as a whistle, he'd put Fury's lights out.

He lost both fights with Usyk but still won some rounds so it's not like he's finished at all, he's just never gonna bear Usyk, AJ has great power but his head has completely gone IMO, can't see him living with any top fighter these days.

You could be talking about either Joshua or Fury there but you are deciding that it only applies positively to Fury while no doubt it's negative for Joshua.

Did you see AJ's last fight? He got destroyed. For what it's worth I'd much rather AJ win

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 01:51

Syntax Error wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 01:44 The battle of the 2 men who can't beat Usyk.

It's still interesting, even if it's somewhere between 5 - 8 years too late.

The only thing is, once they've had the inevitable rematch and possible 3rd fight, what next?

Would anybody be interested in seeing these two against Usyk again?

No interest in seeing either of them lose to Usyk again. There will be interest in their fight but I'm not really interested. Both coming for a payday now and who cares who wins when Usyk has beaten both of them twice each.

My thoughts too.

Don't get me wrong, I would still watch it, but the fight doesn't enthuse me like it once would have.

I just see it as a cash out battle between two giant guys who failed to beat a "gap toothed middleweight " (copyright L T Fury) in 2 attempts each.

It has to be next or it will never happen. Both on losing streaks - nothing to lose and money to be made. It’s still a massive fight - none of them deserve a chance at Usyk again, Fury could fight Dubois next year perhaps if he wins but more than likely Daniel would go with Usyk so leaves Fury free for 2025.

Also it’s the first time I am quite confident Fury will win it. Always thought it was pretty even but i think Fury would end up stopping Joshua now

Fury is not really and never was a banger. A flicker style and a big lump who mauls you.

Couldn't outmuscle Ngannou who was stronger than him. Uysk did not have many issues with his strength, either time.

AJ is more robotic but very physically strong and the much bigger puncher. That flicker style might have some success but feel he will get cracked (Fury), more than once.

NazNaci1 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 17:44 Fury is not really and never was a banger. A flicker style and a big lump who mauls you.

Couldn't outmuscle Ngannou who was stronger than him. Uysk did not have many issues with his strength, either time.

AJ is more robotic but very physically strong and the much bigger puncher. That flicker style might have some success but feel he will get cracked (Fury), more than once.

Fury would never live it down if he lost to AJ

This fight is still a major one between 2 of the major British Heavyweights in a time when the British Heavyweight Boxing scene has never been stronger.

If Fury wins a fight between he and Dubois would be big business as well. If he loses well...that's Boxing and we shall see.