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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's always impressive but he's had 2 fights in years. You're against gsp getting anything off of his past but your boy khabib beats a guy outside the top 30 and a backside top 10 and he earned it.

Yet you've defended Conor's shot after scraping by Diaz.

I'm against GSP getting the shot because there's 1 guy who clearly deserves it.

I thought Cruz deserved his shot after getting back from injury.

p4p1 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's always impressive but he's had 2 fights in years. You're against gsp getting anything off of his past but your boy khabib beats a guy outside the top 30 and a backside top 10 and he earned it.

Yet you've defended Conor's shot after scraping by Diaz.

I'm against GSP getting the shot because there's 1 guy who clearly deserves it.

I thought Cruz deserved his shot after getting back from injury.

I'm consistent, I called for this fight. You're the one so caught up on towing the line except for when it involves one of your favorites. You're obviously a knowledgeable fan but surely you can't think you're not partial to certain guys and harsh on others.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

p4p1 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's always impressive but he's had 2 fights in years. You're against gsp getting anything off of his past but your boy khabib beats a guy outside the top 30 and a backside top 10 and he earned it.

Yet you've defended Conor's shot after scraping by Diaz.

I'm against GSP getting the shot because there's 1 guy who clearly deserves it.

I thought Cruz deserved his shot after getting back from injury.

I'm consistent, I called for this fight. You're the one so caught up on towing the line except for when it involves one of your favorites. You're obviously a knowledgeable fan but surely you can't think you're not partial to certain guys and harsh on others.

I think you need to look at the LW rankings.

1. McGregor - champ
2. Khabib - extremely dominant wins over Johnson and RDA, who less than a year later would be champ. 8 fight win streak.
3. Ferguson - 9 fight win streak, arguably should be the number 1 contender.
4. Alvarez - just got embarrassed by McGregor
5. RDA - back to back losses against Alvarez and Ferguson. Bad loss against Khabib
6. Diaz - razor thin loss to McGregor plus the win, win over Johnson was not anywhere near as impressive as Khabibs. One sided loss to RDA.
7. Johnson

So explain to me how Khabib doesn't deserve the number 1 or 2 ranking? He fought twice last year but his ranking may be effected now due to this pullout.

Ferguson is much more deserving of a title fight. You should be pissed off about it. But you love khabib so you're not bothered by it. You love Romero, so that pisses you off. I couldn't care less about rankings. I care about good fights and this might have been a great one. You? Inconsistent. Not that big of a deal, mildly annoying.

I think something does need to be done about weight cutting though. Guys are cutting insane amounts now out of necessity. I think a whole revamp of the weight classes and weigh in times are needed.

That we agree on. I wish they would do pride scoring too. We'd be getting ready to watch Woodley/maia tomorrow. I really want to see that.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ferguson is much more deserving of a title fight. You should be pissed off about it. But you love khabib so you're not bothered by it. You love Romero, so that pisses you off. I couldn't care less about rankings. I care about good fights and this might have been a great one. You? Inconsistent. Not that big of a deal, mildly annoying.

Except you're missing the entire point that nobody is getting the title shot because McGregor went on maternity leave straight after he won his title. He is/was going to be out for 10 months and now there's no guarantee it's not going to be longer than that.

This was the only fight to make that made sense to try to keep a division moving after McGregor fucked another one. I was against it even though I was excited for it for the exact same reason I was against Aldo defending his title against Halloway. The top two guys shouldn't be eliminating each other when the champ is healthy and should be defending.

There's no inconsistency on my part here. I thought Ferguson should've got the shot against Alvarez though I wasn't upset with Khabib getting it given he's clearly top 2 in the world right now. Khabib getting a shot isn't the same as McGregor jumping the line at LW or GSP jumping the line at MW only a fool would think it is.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:That we agree on. I wish they would do pride scoring too. We'd be getting ready to watch Woodley/maia tomorrow. I really want to see that.

I think Pride scoring was just as flawed as the previous 10 round must scoring in MMA(we will see if the new judging criteria is an improvement) but the yellow cards were fornicating great.

Whatever you say. I'm not going on and on about this. You're very very consistent and NEVER play favorites. You definitely don't irrationally hate McGregor. In fact you should change your user name to p4pconsistency. Happy? Christ

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Whatever you say. I'm not going on and on about this. You're very very consistent and NEVER play favorites. You definitely don't irrationally hate McGregor. In fact you should change your user name to p4pconsistency. Happy? Christ

I didn't say I was never inconsistent just simply this isn't a case of it. Again show me something I said that was incorrect

You never say anything incorrect.

Damn, Ferguson is all class.

Ferguson is an interesting dude. I went from hating him on the TUF series to really liking him. He is showing that he is all that is great about the sport. Always makes weight, can work up a fight, is extremely exciting, confident (yet grounded), and patient. A lot of other fighters in his position (of consecutive wins against top tier opposition) would be bitching and moaning about a title shot. Good for Ferguson. I hope he gets a shot at Conor and makes us all proud.

Explain to me Saad how GSP getting a shot against Bisping is the same thing as if Khabib hadve been fighting Conor this weekend.

Impractical Poster wrote:Ferguson is an interesting dude. I went from hating him on the TUF series to really liking him. He is showing that he is all that is great about the sport. Always makes weight, can work up a fight, is extremely exciting, confident (yet grounded), and patient. A lot of other fighters in his position (of consecutive wins against top tier opposition) would be bitching and moaning about a title shot. Good for Ferguson. I hope he gets a shot at Conor and makes us all proud.

It's just his trash talk that lets him down. Sometimes he's very cringeworthy.

Dana is blaming Khabibs team for the situation. If they hadn't have taken him straight to hospital and called the UFC first the fight could've been saved. But I think the fight is kind of pointless if not at 155 if Khabib was to win.

p4p1 wrote:Explain to me Saad how GSP getting a shot against Bisping is the same thing as if Khabib hadve been fighting Conor this weekend.

Jesus Christ dude, give it a rest. There would have clearly been a more deserving challenger passed over. It isn't arguable. You're as relentless as khabib. I'm not talking about it anymore, obviously you don't handle criticism well. I'm very, very sorry.

Nah man it's not that I can't take critism I can, I've taken it consistently ans learned from it but your critism on this point is completely invalid. You refuse to see or admit you're comparing apples and oranges. You refuse to ever admit that you might be wrong instead you just reply with sleeping or laughing emojis when you can't build a logical or don't want to build reasonable argument generally I suspect because you don't have or can't think of one.

If Khabib got the shot(and he didn't) it wouldve been the number one ranked guy(up until today) taking a title fight offered to him. It is not at all the same as a former champion who's over 3 years retired(which will be 4 by the time he fights) from the division below leapfrogging the clear number 1 contender who's on the divisions greatest pretitle win streak to take on its weakest ever champ, who already got his gimme totally ridiculous title defence. Without even getting into the UFC sending Khabib a fake contract to make Conor and Alvarez agree to terms the two(Khabib and Ferguson) are certainly and agreed upon by most experts and fans neck and neck for number 1 contender with an eye test most are favouring Khabib to be the top guy. So I ask again how is Khabib the consensus number 1 contender the same as GSP leapfrogging his way to a title shot in a division he has never competed in that has its own clear number one contender?

You're still missing the point that there is no other logical fight at 155 to make other than Khabib vs Ferguson because the champion is taking another hiatus from defending another belt. Nobody was leapfrogged for a title shot, the UFC took the two clear top contenders who both should've had their own seperate shots at UFC gold and made an interim title fight because a healthy champion is currently refusing to defend his title for the second time in UFC history. If Conor was taking off a normal amount of time like 6-7 months Ferguson would've likely got the shot anyway because of Ramadan - assuming the Ferguson/Conor fight took place somewhere after but around 212. With Khabib getting his shot at the end of the year.

You're supporting the UFC becoming similar to boxing and I don't understand that at all.

Yes, totally invalid. Im A fornicating moron. You're brilliant, khabib is p4p #1, McGregor sucks ass, Romero runs ripshod through the entire pride roster, hendo is an overrated bum, etc.. I'd also just like to save the time and headaches in the future by saying that I agree with everything you think or say about MMA.

Funny posts aside I'm beyond gutted about this fight being off. I was feeling happy telling folk to fornicate off with Bellew Haye and that Khabib and Tony was the fight of the night...I'm going to have to watch Haye now.

Hope Wonderboy doesn't try to copy Derrik 'smoke' Gainer again tonight.

Yeah, it sucks. Thank God there is the boxing. I'm watching bellator on DVR. No disrespect to him, but hearing Justin Wren described as an animal shows where that division is in the promotion. I was going to watch haye anyway. Garcia/Thurman is the fight of the night now.

Sounds like they offered Johnson to Tony as a late replacement...with a REDUCED PURSE?!?!

Tony turned it down, and who could blame him? I don't have access to the numbers, but why on earth would you not offer him his full purse PLUS a bonus for taking a last minute opponent? WME really don't know what they are doing.

punchoutsb wrote:Sounds like they offered Johnson to Tony as a late replacement...with a REDUCED PURSE?!?!

Tony turned it down, and who could blame him? I don't have access to the numbers, but why on earth would you not offer him his full purse PLUS a bonus for taking a last minute opponent? WME really don't know what they are doing.

He certainly deserves it. It's just not a big fight to help buys. He already was getting more than contracted. All of their shows turn a profit, Dana might be smiling at Woodley saying "show me how badly you're treated. Carry a ppv.". Probably not likely, but spite is a driving emotion.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, totally invalid. Im A effing moron. You're brilliant, khabib is p4p #1, McGregor sucks ass, Romero runs ripshod through the entire pride roster, hendo is an overrated bum, etc.. I'd also just like to save the time and headaches in the future by saying that I agree with everything you think or say about MMA.

Just more of the same from you really. None of this addresses how GSP vs Bisping is the same thing as Khabib getting a shot. You just rehash old stuff that for the most part I haven't actually said because you don't have an argument as to why it is.

p4p1 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, totally invalid. Im A effing moron. You're brilliant, khabib is p4p #1, McGregor sucks ass, Romero runs ripshod through the entire pride roster, hendo is an overrated bum, etc.. I'd also just like to save the time and headaches in the future by saying that I agree with everything you think or say about MMA.

Just more of the same from you really. None of this addresses how GSP vs Bisping is the same thing as Khabib getting a shot. You just rehash old stuff that for the most part I haven't actually said because you don't have an argument as to why it is.

I agree