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The current theme that Khan is shit and gets beaten by any half decent fighter is a nonsense. In particular the assumption that Brook will destroy him is comical. Brook hasn't even fought someone as good as Malignaggi or Kotelnik. Khan has some serious flaws but he also has some P4P level attributes. He was destroying Garcia till that bingo punch and threw it away against Peterson.

We dont even know if Brook could be arsed making the weight to fight a top opponent never mind being good enough to actually beat one.

not often am i stunned by peoples comments but to say that the fight was rigged or the ref ruined the fight is a extraordinary .... it was a one-sided event from start to finish... there was nothing coming back from Carson and the fight was correctly stopped... actually most of the fight there wasnt much coming back from Carson....Jones was taking punishment for most of the fight ....he hadnt won a single round and had 2 knockdowns against him... they are athletes not gladiators that are finished when carried off the canvas...

Dead Mouse wrote:

columbo wrote:Terry did you actually get an interview with Bobby or did you just copy and paste what you put in this article from this thread? http://www.BS.com/jones-manage ... nds--67613

Look, I don't cut and paste from boxing forums or websites without saying so. If there's a quote and it says the person was speaking to BS then it is something I've obtained myself, i.e. it was from Bobby. I logged in yesterday, but didn't read the entire forum. Anything else?

I was joking mate, chill

BobbyDobbs wrote:

columbo wrote:Just watching the first fight now. Jones did bloody well to stand up to a lot of the shots he took in that fight. He never took a backward step really either which shows he's bloody tough.

He has a great chin and recovers quickly when he is stung.

I tell him that he is like Jason from Friday the 13th. You can shoot him, blow him up, but as soon as you think hes dead, back he comes to kill you!

Jones has a great chin but they used to say that about Jerry Quarry and Ali. Jones gets hit with a frightening amount of power shots. At some time he must consider his long-term health.

Pugilist-specialist wrote:

BobbyDobbs wrote:

columbo wrote:Just watching the first fight now. Jones did bloody well to stand up to a lot of the shots he took in that fight. He never took a backward step really either which shows he's bloody tough.

He has a great chin and recovers quickly when he is stung.

I tell him that he is like Jason from Friday the 13th. You can shoot him, blow him up, but as soon as you think hes dead, back he comes to kill you!

Jones has a great chin but they used to say that about Jerry Quarry and Ali. Jones gets hit with a frightening amount of power shots. At some time he must consider his long-term health.

x2 Carson took some very hard shots flush on; he didn't ride the punches or even seem to see them coming. He seems to be a naturally strong man and is very game; the brain though is like blancmange in a strong body or a weak one. A hiding like he took last night may come back to haunt him; hope the man got paid enough to set some aside so he can think about his time after boxing.

Pugilist-specialist wrote:

BobbyDobbs wrote:

columbo wrote:Just watching the first fight now. Jones did bloody well to stand up to a lot of the shots he took in that fight. He never took a backward step really either which shows he's bloody tough.

He has a great chin and recovers quickly when he is stung.

I tell him that he is like Jason from Friday the 13th. You can shoot him, blow him up, but as soon as you think hes dead, back he comes to kill you!

Jones has a great chin but they used to say that about Jerry Quarry and Ali. Jones gets hit with a frightening amount of power shots. At some time he must consider his long-term health.

x2 Carson took some very hard shots flush on; he didn't ride the punches or even seem to see them coming. He seems to be a naturally strong man and is very game; the brain though is like blancmange in a strong body or a weak one. A hiding like he took last night may come back to haunt him; hope the man got paid enough to set some aside so he can think about his time after boxing.[/quote]

Not just that but he's been a sparring partner for the likes of Canelo and Golovkin! He's probably taken a lot of gym beatings aswell.

I didn't know that he'd been a sparring partner for those 2; I hope he'll be ok and the money he's earned in such a hard way will set him up for a better life; there are easier ways to make a living and if he boxes on he needs to stay away from the level of Brook etc.

palooka wrote:I didn't know that he'd been a sparring partner for those 2; I hope he'll be ok and the money he's earned in such a hard way will set him up for a better life; there are easier ways to make a living and if he boxes on he needs to stay away from the level of Brook etc.

Well he was a paid sparring partner for Canelo but he used to be trained by Abel Sanchez up in Big bear who also trains Golovkin. Im pretty sure they've sparred together.

mrpedigree wrote:

GlobalBox wrote:Thought it was a decent performance to be honest, Jones has a great chin and great survival ability but I did not want to see him hit in the head
anymore to be honest, he had not won a round was given a count twice so there are two 10-8 rounds in there, he had not hurt Brook, why let him take more

No problems with the stoppage for me

Bring on Maidana, that will make for a cracking fight as the Latin comes to fight.

Maidana ?? your kidding me ..Maidana will fcuk Kell

You rate Fury shows what you know.

Why do people want Kell to fail? Seriously some of you are fornicating pathetic.
And to the bullshit rigged talk, Carson's team have said they have no complaints, fornicating more do you want?
Now let's get Kell in with somebody world class, put this debate to bed.

DMA1987 wrote:Why do people want Kell to fail? Seriously some of you are effing pathetic.
And to the bullshit rigged talk, Carson's team have said they have no complaints, effing more do you want?
Now let's get Kell in with somebody world class, put this debate to bed.

DMA1987 wrote:Why do people want Kell to fail? Seriously some of you are effing pathetic.
And to the bullshit rigged talk, Carson's team have said they have no complaints, effing more do you want?
Now let's get Kell in with somebody world class, put this debate to bed.

I dont want to see Kell fail. I dont care either way. I just want to see him actually fight a top welterweight.

columbo wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:Why do people want Kell to fail? Seriously some of you are effing pathetic.
And to the bullshit rigged talk, Carson's team have said they have no complaints, effing more do you want?
Now let's get Kell in with somebody world class, put this debate to bed.

I dont want to see Kell fail. I dont care either way. I just want to see him actually fight a top welterweight.

Surprisingly not about you pal :-), and the time is now for the big WW fight you are right.

DMA1987 wrote:

columbo wrote:

DMA1987 wrote:Why do people want Kell to fail? Seriously some of you are effing pathetic.
And to the bullshit rigged talk, Carson's team have said they have no complaints, effing more do you want?
Now let's get Kell in with somebody world class, put this debate to bed.

I dont want to see Kell fail. I dont care either way. I just want to see him actually fight a top welterweight.

Surprisingly not about you pal :-), and the time is now for the big WW fight you are right.

Id say the same about Cleverly. The Kovalev fight has made me give him props though to be fair.

Yeah, fair play to him for that fight, didn't think he had it in him!

Was good to hear Kell talking about the names he wanted after the fight, shows he is getting a bit of hunger back and shows the fights he wants.

DMA1987 wrote:Yeah, fair play to him for that fight, didn't think he had it in him!

Was good to hear Kell talking about the names he wanted after the fight, shows he is getting a bit of hunger back and shows the fights he wants.

Yeah it's good to hear Kell saying he wants those guys. I hope it's not Mosley though. Any of the other big names in the division id be happy with.

ajwesty13 wrote:not often am i stunned by peoples comments but to say that the fight was rigged or the ref ruined the fight is a extraordinary .... it was a one-sided event from start to finish... there was nothing coming back from Carson and the fight was correctly stopped... actually most of the fight there wasnt much coming back from Carson....Jones was taking punishment for most of the fight ....he hadnt won a single round and had 2 knockdowns against him... they are athletes not gladiators that are finished when carried off the canvas...

OK I used the word rigged which in fairness was the wrong word to use, in my defence I was on my eleventh lager at the time. I'll put it another way, home stoppage and they get me really riled. Jones was working his way back into the fight in the previous couple of rounds, I think he'd have done the distance.

mrbassie wrote:

ajwesty13 wrote:not often am i stunned by peoples comments but to say that the fight was rigged or the ref ruined the fight is a extraordinary .... it was a one-sided event from start to finish... there was nothing coming back from Carson and the fight was correctly stopped... actually most of the fight there wasnt much coming back from Carson....Jones was taking punishment for most of the fight ....he hadnt won a single round and had 2 knockdowns against him... they are athletes not gladiators that are finished when carried off the canvas...

OK I used the word rigged which in fairness was the wrong word to use, in my defence I was on my eleventh lager at the time. I'll put it another way, home stoppage and they get me really riled. Jones was working his way back into the fight in the previous couple of rounds, I think he'd have done the distance.

The defendant is cleared

palooka wrote:

mrbassie wrote:

ajwesty13 wrote:not often am i stunned by peoples comments but to say that the fight was rigged or the ref ruined the fight is a extraordinary .... it was a one-sided event from start to finish... there was nothing coming back from Carson and the fight was correctly stopped... actually most of the fight there wasnt much coming back from Carson....Jones was taking punishment for most of the fight ....he hadnt won a single round and had 2 knockdowns against him... they are athletes not gladiators that are finished when carried off the canvas...

OK I used the word rigged which in fairness was the wrong word to use, in my defence I was on my eleventh lager at the time. I'll put it another way, home stoppage and they get me really riled. Jones was working his way back into the fight in the previous couple of rounds, I think he'd have done the distance.

The defendant is cleared

Still a prick for saying what you did.
Sorry if that offends but Ive had 12 pints.

To be fair, Kell would get more criticism for not giving Jones a rematch given how close the first fight was. Like has already been said, Carson Jones has been put to bed now, onwards and upwards.

mrbassie wrote:

ajwesty13 wrote:not often am i stunned by peoples comments but to say that the fight was rigged or the ref ruined the fight is a extraordinary .... it was a one-sided event from start to finish... there was nothing coming back from Carson and the fight was correctly stopped... actually most of the fight there wasnt much coming back from Carson....Jones was taking punishment for most of the fight ....he hadnt won a single round and had 2 knockdowns against him... they are athletes not gladiators that are finished when carried off the canvas...

OK I used the word rigged which in fairness was the wrong word to use, in my defence I was on my eleventh lager at the time. I'll put it another way, home stoppage and they get me really riled. Jones was working his way back into the fight in the previous couple of rounds, I think he'd have done the distance.

i thought the stoppage was a good call. jones was taking way too much and not giving enough back. not like he was going to pull a ko out of the bag and he was more likely to just get more and more hurt.

i read on another forum someone said 'if jones was your son would you have wanted it to carry on' got to remember these guys have 30-40 years of life to live after they retire. not good for them taking shots like that too often.

Parson Cross wrote:Still a prick for saying what you did.
Sorry if that offends but Ive had 12 pints.

I'm a prick because I don't like referee's stopping fights prematurely because of their own vested interests?
No need to be sorry, the prebubescent name calling of an irrelevance on the internet really doesn't bother me.

mrbassie wrote:

Parson Cross wrote:Still a prick for saying what you did.
Sorry if that offends but Ive had 12 pints.

I'm a prick because I don't like referee's stopping fights prematurely because of their own vested interests?
No need to be sorry, the prebubescent name calling of an irrelevance on the internet really doesn't bother me.

Carson may have managed the distance but wasn't going to win, had taken a lot of heavy punches and was likely to take more. I lost a tenner bet when Kell won but was happy to see Jones out of the bout; he seems a decent sort and I'd not like to see him (anyone) take a severe pounding. The ref did his job, Brook did his and Jones did his best.

mrbassie wrote:

Parson Cross wrote:Still a prick for saying what you did.
Sorry if that offends but Ive had 12 pints.

I'm a prick because I don't like referee's stopping fights prematurely because of their own vested interests?
No need to be sorry, the prebubescent name calling of an irrelevance on the internet really doesn't bother me.

What a load of rubbish. What vested interest did that referee have in ending Brook/Jones 2 ??!! It was a fair stoppage. The referee did his job - he is there to protect the fighters and Jones was losing, was a mile behind, and Brook was hammering him at that point. Good stoppage