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Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 09:16
by Tom Ford
Horse wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote: :lol: How old are you 11 years old?
He's right.
I agree.
:lol:

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 09:55
by Finn
Tom Ford wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Tom Ford wrote:Personally, I do not know who/what to believe.
How about believing the guy with six stitches, who's just watched millions of pounds pass him by.

Like the bad back for Wlad when he heard the mony might not be there? ( Why not just say the truth and NOT the bull).

How about the bad hand for Charr? You see my point? He lies when he has to. Didn't he say he would never fight anyone other than a Klitschko? Did't he say he was retired? You see my point.

He lies too much.
He pulled out of the charr fight for the fight with tyson which was mega money and he pulled out of the first wlad fight because setanta folded the week of the fight so he wouldnt have been aired on uk tv and he wouldnt have been paid the uk tv money he couldnt say that because he would have been in breach of contract. He has no reason to pull this fight unless vitali has offered a fight this year unless you want to believe fury is a world class destroyer that haye bottled it against which is clearly not the case. Especially if you believe he cut himself to do it.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 11:40
by Tom Ford
Finn wrote: He pulled out of the charr fight for the fight with tyson which was mega money and he pulled out of the first wlad fight because setanta folded the week of the fight so he wouldnt have been aired on uk tv and he wouldnt have been paid the uk tv money he couldnt say that because he would have been in breach of contract. He has no reason to pull this fight unless vitali has offered a fight this year unless you want to believe fury is a world class destroyer that haye bottled it against which is clearly not the case. Especially if you believe he cut himself to do it.

I don't believe he cut himself. I do believe he lies.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 11:41
by jamesmcdonnell
Nobody can blame Haye for pulling out of the first Wlad fight - would YOU fight for nothing?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 12:14
by Tom Ford
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Nobody can blame Haye for pulling out of the first Wlad fight - would YOU fight for nothing?

No.

But what about the Charr bad hand fight?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 13:59
by SNG
Tom Ford wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Nobody can blame Haye for pulling out of the first Wlad fight - would YOU fight for nothing?

No.

But what about the Charr bad hand fight?
What about it?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 14:52
by Horse
SNG wrote:What about it?
You believed Haye did you?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:06
by Tom Ford
Horse wrote:
SNG wrote:What about it?
You believed Haye did you?
Maybe SNG is Haye?

:DDD

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:08
by SNG
Horse wrote:
SNG wrote:What about it?
You believed Haye did you?
No, and I didn't offer an opinion on it, I'm asking what does the 'Charr bad hand fight' have to do with this cut, or are you another one who believes he cut himself to get out fighting Tyson Fury?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:19
by Horse
SNG wrote:No, and I didn't offer an opinion on it, I'm asking what does the 'Charr bad hand fight' have to do with this cut, or are you another one who believes he cut himself to get out fighting Tyson Fury?
It wouldn't surprise me. Haye has a track record of gamesmanship and pulling out of fights in questionable circumstances.

Haye is one of the dodgiest fighters going. No wonder so many people think he's up to something. He's earned his reputation.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:21
by SNG
Horse wrote:
SNG wrote:No, and I didn't offer an opinion on it, I'm asking what does the 'Charr bad hand fight' have to do with this cut, or are you another one who believes he cut himself to get out fighting Tyson Fury?
It wouldn't surprise me. Haye has a track record of gamesmanship and pulling out of fights in questionable circumstances.

Haye is one of the dodgiest fighters going. No wonder so many people think he's up to something. He's earned his reputation.
Why would he do this to pull out of a fight with Fury?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:22
by keithmoonhangover
SNG wrote:
Horse wrote:
SNG wrote:No, and I didn't offer an opinion on it, I'm asking what does the 'Charr bad hand fight' have to do with this cut, or are you another one who believes he cut himself to get out fighting Tyson Fury?
It wouldn't surprise me. Haye has a track record of gamesmanship and pulling out of fights in questionable circumstances.

Haye is one of the dodgiest fighters going. No wonder so many people think he's up to something. He's earned his reputation.
Why would he do this to pull out of a fight with Fury?
Horse is gonna tell you it's because Haye knew Fury was gonna knock him out.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:23
by Horse
SNG wrote:Why would he do this to pull out of a fight with Fury?
Because he thought he was going to get his ass kicked.

Haye's smarter than his fans, he knew Fury was going to be very dangerous.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:24
by SNG
Horse wrote:
SNG wrote:Why would he do this to pull out of a fight with Fury?
Because he thought he was going to get his ass kicked.

Haye's smarter than his fans, he knew Fury was going to be very dangerous.
So why did he fight Wladimir Klitschko?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:26
by handsofstone
I agree with Gomez i think it was who said it was karma catching up with Haye on this occasion but a conspiracy.......


PERLEASSE :roll:

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:31
by Horse
SNG wrote:So why did he fight Wladimir Klitschko?
The payday with his silly toe excuse.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:33
by Crazyboy
SNG wrote:
Horse wrote:
SNG wrote:Why would he do this to pull out of a fight with Fury?
Because he thought he was going to get his ass kicked.

Haye's smarter than his fans, he knew Fury was going to be very dangerous.
So why did he fight Wladimir Klitschko?
Game set and match to SNG :bow:

Fury /Haye Lawyer...

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:33
by jizzle
Chris Farnell, a sports lawyer who represents Fury, told BBC Sport: "There are serious doubts as to whether Haye actually wanted this fight with Tyson or not.
"Haye has said his injury was caused by sparring. Well, I'm not sure how many professional boxers so close to a fight spar so heavily.
"He's sustained this huge cut on his eye. So he didn't have a headguard on? Or if he did have one on, how did he get caught with such a big punch?
"There are frustrating questions that we are forced to ask as a result of the excuses we're being given.
"It's a fact now - the fight has been delayed. It all seems rather convenient to us, to be honest."
Don't know the guy but don't like him from the quote above...

1) He's inferring that Haye has choked...where are these 'serious doubts'?

2) It's well documented that Fury doesn't wear a headgear so why go heavy on the sneer?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:33
by SNG
Horse wrote:
SNG wrote:So why did he fight Wladimir Klitschko?
The payday with his silly toe excuse.
He wasn't going to make peanuts fighting Fury, was he?

Certainly more money in this than every other fight out there.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:39
by Horse
SNG wrote:He wasn't going to make peanuts fighting Fury, was he?

Certainly more money in this than every other fight out there.
He signed up thinking he'd pick up an easy win for big money. Then he realised Fury was going to beat him easily and destroy his future marketability.

Haye has a track record of mickey taking, he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:42
by keithmoonhangover
Horse wrote:
SNG wrote:He wasn't going to make peanuts fighting Fury, was he?

Certainly more money in this than every other fight out there.
He signed up thinking he'd pick up an easy win for big money. Then he realised Fury was going to beat him easily and destroy his future marketability.

Haye has a track record of mickey taking, he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Horse.... it really surprises me that you're single. You make such logical arguments. Seriously mate, if I went to Mrs Hangover using 'Horse logic', she'd bin me on the spot.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:46
by jamesmcdonnell
Horse wrote:
SNG wrote:So why did he fight Wladimir Klitschko?
The payday with his silly toe excuse.
Yes, so why wouldn't he just fight Fury, for a similarly huge payday, and in the (hugely) unlikely eventually he lost, make up another excuse?

Your logic is non-existent.

Are you saying Haye is mortally afraid of getting in the ring with Fury, but not bothered about taking on the best heavyweight in the world - or are you saying that Fury is actually better than Wlad?

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:48
by Horse
keithmoonhangover wrote:Horse.... it really surprises me that you're single. You make such logical arguments. Seriously mate, if I went to Mrs Hangover using 'Horse logic', she'd bin me on the spot.
I doubt the females that you go out with would interest me.

Re: Haye v Fury postponed due to injury to haye ???

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:50
by Tom Ford
SNG wrote:
Horse wrote:
SNG wrote:Why would he do this to pull out of a fight with Fury?
Because he thought he was going to get his ass kicked.

Haye's smarter than his fans, he knew Fury was going to be very dangerous.
So why did he fight Wladimir Klitschko?
Easy to dismiss a Wlad beat down, but a Fury beat down? Fo shame!

Haye would never live it down. The guys a bloody salesman.

Re: Fury /Haye Lawyer...

Posted: 22 Sep 2013, 15:52
by dbflex
Many boxers spar up until a week before a fight and headguards do not prevent all cuts, especially if they're not 'full-face' ones which can hinder peripheral vision to an extent. Thing is, boxers know all this. I don't imagine many are sitting around saying, "Haye, what an idiot!" It could happen to anyone and, unlike other times when Haye has withdrawn from fights, this is the biggest money fight out there for him.