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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 23:14
by Boxing Writer
Chepppaaa wrote:Baby Face Finster wrote:diddy wrote:Wilder-Povetkin will be very interesting. Hope it's next.
Povetkin is going to expose this phony.
like he exposed a cruiserweight with amyority descision hahahaha
Povetkin is massively overrated here. He is good but not special at all. Better then all Wilder's 35 opponents though.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 23:17
by Chepppaaa
Povetkin is massively overrated here. He is good but not special at all. Better then all Wilder's 35 opponents though.[/quote]
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exactly, it just shows how many people on hear have no clue about boxing.
a small chubby dude, who struggled with a cruiserweight huck is now all of the sudden the second best heavyweight in the world, better than big tall athletic powerful punchers like wilder or jushua, no way. povetkin is on a stiverne level, b+
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 23:27
by punchoutsb
Chepppaaa wrote:
exactly, it just shows how many people on hear have no clue about boxing.
Oh the irony.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 23:33
by Chepppaaa
punchoutsb wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:
exactly, it just shows how many people on hear have no clue about boxing.
Oh the irony.
i make sense you dont
small huck would not survive 2 rounds against wilder, but povetkin beats wilder, sure....
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 23:34
by punchoutsb
Chepppaaa wrote:punchoutsb wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:
exactly, it just shows how many people on hear have no clue about boxing.
Oh the irony.
i make sense you dont
small huck would not survive 2 rounds against wilder, but povetkin beats wilder, sure....
Sure you do...sure you do...

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 23:36
by Freedom
What happens when Wilder steps up in competition?
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 23:37
by punchoutsb
Freedom wrote:What happens when Wilder steps up in competition?
That's the million dollar question mate.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 23:45
by ifthenelse
Povetkin's performance against Huck was due to his stamina problems. This has been fixed. Just check out Povetkin's last few fights. Additionally, while Huck is technically limited, he had a very good chin (probably not that much any more) and was known for his excellent stamina. I do not think highly of Wilder, neither as a professional boxer nor as a person. I would bet on a KO win by Povetkin in round 4. Wilder is not steady on his legs and if he eats one of Povetkin's uppercuts he will go down. Povetkin is a very difficult fighter to deal with. He has an awkward style that irritates many fighters as he tends to suddenly rush into enemies head first while widely swinging.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 23:47
by Like a Boss
Freedom wrote:What happens when Wilder steps up in competition?
We can only speculate for now. What we do know is he is 35-0 with 34 KOs and no amount of criticism will change that.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 00:10
by Boxing Writer
I'm not a fan of Deontay Wilder, but I hate when people are using double standards. When Povetkin beat Charr, everybody were praising him like he was the second coming of prime George Foreman. But when Wilder easily beat the guy who beat Charr, people are saying "What a sh1tty fighter, he is getting destroyed in his next fight!". Thats a perfect example of double standards used by boxing fans.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 00:18
by crusader
Boxing Writer wrote:I'm not a fan of Deontay Wilder, but I hate when people are using double standards. When Povetkin beat Charr, everybody were praising him like he was the second coming of prime George Foreman. But when Wilder easily beat the guy who beat Charr, people are saying "What a sh1tty fighter, he is getting destroyed in his next fight!". Thats a perfect example of double standards used by boxing fans.
I don't recall him being extremely highly praised in general for beating Charr. I think it would be more fitting to say that he's gained respect and is seen by many as the #2 fighter in the division partially due to a solid string of wins that included his destruction of Charr and his stoppages of Takam and Perez, both of whom are better than Duhaupas in my opinion.
We can only speculate for now. What we do know is he is 35-0 with 34 KOs and no amount of criticism will change that.
Really? Who would have thought!!
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 00:35
by Chepppaaa
Boxing Writer wrote:I'm not a fan of Deontay Wilder, but I hate when people are using double standards. When Povetkin beat Charr, everybody were praising him like he was the second coming of prime George Foreman. But when Wilder easily beat the guy who beat Charr, people are saying "What a sh1tty fighter, he is getting destroyed in his next fight!". Thats a perfect example of double standards used by boxing fans.
finaly someone makes sense.
KOs 97% ratio in 35 fights, just sayn....

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 00:37
by Chepppaaa
crusader wrote:Boxing Writer wrote:I'm not a fan of Deontay Wilder, but I hate when people are using double standards. When Povetkin beat Charr, everybody were praising him like he was the second coming of prime George Foreman. But when Wilder easily beat the guy who beat Charr, people are saying "What a sh1tty fighter, he is getting destroyed in his next fight!". Thats a perfect example of double standards used by boxing fans.
I don't recall him being extremely highly praised in general for beating Charr. I think it would be more fitting to say that he's gained respect and is seen by many as the #2 fighter in the division partially due to a solid string of wins that included his destruction of Charr and his stoppages of
Takam and Perez, both of whom are better than Duhaupas in my opinion.
We can only speculate for now. What we do know is he is 35-0 with 34 KOs and no amount of criticism will change that.
Really? Who would have thought!!
and stiverne is better than takam and perez
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 00:44
by crusader
I disagree. I think Stiverne is overrated based on his wins over Arreola and it seems to me that people were quick to forget that he was handily outboxed for nearly 10 rounds by 40 year old Ray Austin and held to a draw by a journeyman not many fights before that. Stiverne is also the only top 10 opponent Wilder has fought, and including him I'd say that Wilder has only fought 3 top 30 opponents (Stiverne, Scott, and Duhaupas).
I wouldn't be surprised if Deontay beat Povetkin, but I want to see him consistently fight better opposition so I can get a better idea of how good he is.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 00:46
by Boxing Writer
crusader wrote:I don't recall him being extremely highly praised in general for beating Charr.
Comment under this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmq23zJDClE
"Povetkin is a beast. He would beat both Holyfield and Tyson. I can't wait for his fight against Wilder, going to be a good one".
If that guy didn't mean current versions of Holyfield and Tyson, I even don't know what to say... And there were equally bad comments on BS and Eastside forums as far as I recall
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 00:47
by crusader
You said 'everybody' praised him like he was the second coming. I'm sure if you pick and choose from YouTube you can find practically any nonsensical comment you want.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 01:07
by TheBeast
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 01:24
by diddy
I would favor Povetkin currently against Wilder but Wilder has the eraser and would never be out of the fight. It would be close to a pick em fight at the sportsbooks.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 01:31
by Bobbyptsd
Freedom wrote:What happens when Wilder steps up in competition?
Depends what you mean by step up, as I'd argue there are a few rungs on the ladder between say, Stiverne and Klistchko.
If he steps up to someone like the winner of Helenius/Teper, or maybe Pulev if he returns, I think he has a good chance of taking it.
If he steps up to Povetkin, I think he gets stopped.
So I don't think I need to point out what I think happens to him against Wlad.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 01:34
by Chepppaaa
crusader wrote:You said 'everybody' praised him like he was the second coming. I'm sure if you pick and choose from YouTube you can find practically any nonsensical comment you want.
he made a good point and you dont
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 01:36
by Chepppaaa
Bobbyptsd wrote:Freedom wrote:What happens when Wilder steps up in competition?
Depends what you mean by step up, as I'd argue there are a few rungs on the ladder between say, Stiverne and Klistchko.
If he steps up to someone like the winner of Helenius/Teper, or maybe Pulev if he returns, I think he has a good chance of taking it.
If he steps up to Povetkin, I think he gets stopped.
So I don't think I need to point out what I think happens to him against Wlad.
pulev > povetkin
stupid people go by ranks
experts go by quality
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 01:43
by Bobbyptsd
Chepppaaa wrote:Bobbyptsd wrote:Freedom wrote:What happens when Wilder steps up in competition?
Depends what you mean by step up, as I'd argue there are a few rungs on the ladder between say, Stiverne and Klistchko.
If he steps up to someone like the winner of Helenius/Teper, or maybe Pulev if he returns, I think he has a good chance of taking it.
If he steps up to Povetkin, I think he gets stopped.
So I don't think I need to point out what I think happens to him against Wlad.
pulev > povetkin
stupid people go by ranks
experts go by quality
You're right, clearly, you're the expert here.
You putz. I'd pay more attention to brut's analysis of a Mayweather fight than to any of your inane ramblings.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 01:45
by Chepppaaa
pulev > povetkin
stupid people go by ranks
experts go by quality[/quote]
You're right, clearly, you're the expert here.
You putz. I'd pay more attention to brut's analysis of a Mayweather fight than to any of your inane ramblings.[/quote]
exatly, i make sense in what is say and 100 % i am n expert and you a wannabe
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 02:22
by kidbazooka1
Poventkin is as ordinary as they come Wilder will beat that boy down no doubt in my mind.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Johann Duhaupas
Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 02:29
by Lackeos
Chepppaaa wrote:exactly, it just shows how many people on hear have no clue about boxing.
a small chubby dude, who struggled with a cruiserweight huck is now all of the sudden the second best heavyweight in the world, better than big tall athletic powerful punchers like wilder or jushua, no way. povetkin is on a stiverne level, b+
You seriously have no clue about boxing.